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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.17 22:03:00 -
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While I am here I would like to create a completely different thread about this because ED warrants its own discussion because IMO it is in more in line with the EVE Universe and is actually almost a finished product (whereas Star Citizen is neither).
I didn't hear about Elite:Dangerous until rather recently, but the Oculus Rift community has jumped on it because it is the best Oculus Rift experience so far.
What Elite:Dangerous is...
Its an open world (perhaps open universe would be a better term) world that is basically a hard core game much like its early versions of its game in 1984. It hopes to emulate millions of star systems in the final release. It focuses heavily on combat, trading, smuggling, and various other enterprises worthy of its name.
Let me tell you about what Elite:Dangerous is now....
You can buy the beta version of the game for $75 US dollars. Although unfinished, if they had to release it today it would be worth getting. It is a space sim. Though sadly it still doesn't have full blow Newtonian physics (well neither does Star Citizen). Currently there are hundreds of systems. Some governed and some with anarchy.
That said, the police are not immortal and people in game have been known til kill a great deal of security vessels just because they interfered with them getting bounties off criminals (or they shot each other by accident).
In effect there is no concord. There are bounties, but because law enforcement is by system, it is rather easy to escape punishment for blowing up someone's ship. In anarchy systems, the stations won't lift a finger if you shoot other players docking as long as you don't hit the station.
The combat is good. I didn't play SC's arena commander but the combat was somewhat boring looking on twitch streams. ED's on the other hand is very exciting because of ship and shield management as well as weapon configurations.
Its much more interesting than EVEs lock and push F1.
Also, it is easier to lose all your stuff in ED than in EVE. Yes, this is a big statement, but I have on occasion hit boost button and flew into the station I was in loosing all my cargo and ship in the process. There is insurance, but its done afterwards (some say this is a problem) the death so if you don't have enough money to cover the loss then you are up the proverbial poop creek.
One of the new problems is that people are getting the newb ships and ramming other players who have weak ships while hauling cargo causing both players to lose their ships but since the newb ships are freely replaced then well...
Now before you go out and spend those $75 let me advise.
What ED is not....
ED is not a very social game. Communications are difficult for a reason. Currently you cannot trade directly (players get around this by buying expensive goods and eject them near stations with black markets used for smuggling goods). The chat functions are non-existant and lord help you if you try to try to talk to someone before shooting them.
ED is not massive in number of players you expect to interact with. It uses peer to peer network code allowing for 16-32 players in a sessions. Yes, if you fly to Freeport (anarchy system) you will get shot at and have targets to shoot at (especially smugglers trying to sneak in with stolen gold). So no. There will not be massive fleet fights in EVE. IMO this is forgivable because I never enjoyed massive fleet fights with TIDI taking 5 minutes to do anything.
Also there are going to be so many star systems that if you fly away from the core systems you may not run into any players (there will be NPCs making it an alive universe).
Also the economy is currently NPC based. Goods are manufactures by planets, bought buy players, and sold back to the NPCs. This may change when players get storage (it will change with mining at least). But the design documents are rather unclear if there will be player manufacturing.
Anyways... What this wall of text is about is. ED is almost a finish game. You can get it now if you want. I believe EVE players will flock to it rather than Star Citizen (because you can get it now and its more open to bad behavior).
Now CCP is going to counter this with Valkyrie but thats not EVE. It has Oculus Rift support (which is great), but it still leaves EVE without OR support. Once you have ED you can forget about having to grind for PLEX or pay for monthly subscriptions. Even if you have 50% as much fun in ED, it is still worth it.
Also the design documents are rather glorious. ED is releasing mining on October 28th and it will be much more interactive than EVE's system where you have to knock chunks off the asteroids and then catch it with your cargo scoop on your ship.
Well don't take my word for it, go check the ED streams on Twitch or the Youtube videos... Its shaping up to be a very excellent game. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:39:00 -
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So, you somehow missed the existing ED thread on this very page?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=339682&find=unread
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:44:00 -
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:46:00 -
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Black Panpher wrote:Fixed
Be thy blessed for doing Dog's work.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:58:00 -
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As there is already a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
The Rules: 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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