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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29403
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:05:42 -
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I just realized permadeath could be a way to implement Jove.
http://now.eveonline.com/post/108091485623 this is a link tweeted by Asayanami Dei. I'm pretty sure that's part of a Jove suit. Read the Crossing Zebras article, and tell me if you agree there's room to say the Jove have shown up to help us fight the sleepers. (you know, the ones that are poking around and have begun podding us now).
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:53:36 -
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Wanted to call out the necro ... ... but it's justified.
Rare event. Thanks, Rain!
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Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
881
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:06:31 -
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Well thanks... now I have a voice of Vin Diesel in my head saying "Necromongers"
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29403
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:14:32 -
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Forgot to link the CZ article: http://crossingzebras.com/in-the-name-of-jove/
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Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:10:56 -
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Will these players characters be perma marked on the overview to be able to tell these clones apart from a normal one?
Does this mean that killing one of these players would default to a killmail of 1/3 of a plex?
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29406
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:25:28 -
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If i'm right, that permadeath will mean Jove characters, and the lore in the CZ articles is true and will be followed... Permadeath / Jove characters' portraits should be apparent, and their ships will be piloted with the body present in the hull... so popping the ship will produce a corpse in space.
Quite frankly, I'd like to see every hull spew 50 crew corpses along with a pod, but I'm a heartless, soulless immortal... don't look to me for morals.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:27:27 -
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That'd mean no suicide ganking ... ... or literal suicide ganking, which could wreck the game.
Hm.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29406
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:30:06 -
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Realistically, yeah, I think the lore and player culture will clash a bit. Kamikaze Jove master race, etc.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:32:40 -
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Btw... that mouth ... lips ... awesome!
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29407
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:38:09 -
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speaking of mouth and lips, k8 dug up this picture... and today I learned Jove are four feet tall.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:42:53 -
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Rain6637 wrote:speaking of mouth and lips, k8 dug up this picture... and today I learned Jove are four feet tall. That's rather short .......
Would mean a change of the character creator, if CCP sticks with it ... and they'd get their own clothes because of that.
Hm...
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Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:43:33 -
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If a PLEX is worth 810 mil and you get 3 permadeath characters per PLEX, that would make each character cost around 270 mil. Futhermore if you assume they run their characters 20 of the 30 days and still drop the value of that character accordingly those characters would still be worth around 90 mil per.
IF the killboard reflects the value of the pilots pod on death appropriately then this will NOT add to ganking. Unless the player is on the very end of his month. Also this would in turn keep the galaxy in check to want to kill their pods.
I would further say it should also be considered if this goes forward to possibly give a different sec status loss for podding these people than normal pods, perhaps less. To encourage people that is, to keep the whole system in check. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6077
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:28:54 -
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I hope CCP goes with my old idea. A "live fast die young" option.
Figure this: imagine a mechanic whereby you can select something like a "turbo brain" which lets you skill up very fast, but that big fat huge turbo brain cannot be cloned (too complex or something) meaning you fry you die.
From a business viewpoint, this would bring in the "quick gratification" crowd who will want to be UBER in 2 seconds so they'll select turbo brains AND possibly even buy and sell PLEX too so they can get the faction/dedspace/officer bling.
From the viewpoint of the existing player base, the poddings of these quick gratification players will be epic complete with maximum frothing rage and tears.
(I'm not into harvesting tears but this MUST be admitted, there will be tears when Little Timmy IWantItNow gets podded)
The only drawback of the turbo brain concept is that EVERYBODY will now go and have a "never undock" alt for industry and market and this kinda screws it up. Might as well at that point make industry and market available for everybody, kill the skills for them and refund the SP at that point though a turbo brain alt from a business perspective would amount to "buying all of the industry or market you need " just by having that second account with the never undock alt.
So I can see controversy and tears if that ever happens. Otherwise I hope they don't come up with a kind of permadeath for existing players. As harsh as that would be, and as much as the "hurf blurf this is Eve HTFU" would make a lot of "leet PVPers" put their money where their keyboards have been all these years, I would not want to the task of implementing permadeath.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29407
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:40:40 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote:If a PLEX is worth 810 mil and you get 3 permadeath characters per PLEX, that would make each character cost around 270 mil. Futhermore if you assume they run their characters 20 of the 30 days and still drop the value of that character accordingly those characters would still be worth around 90 mil per.
IF the killboard reflects the value of the pilots pod on death appropriately then this will NOT add to ganking. Unless the player is on the very end of his month. Also this would in turn keep the galaxy in check to want to kill their pods.
I would further say it should also be considered if this goes forward to possibly give a different sec status loss for podding these people than normal pods, perhaps less. To encourage people that is, to keep the whole system in check. Oh, good point. I assumed permadeath would mean any free slot on my current accounts could host a permadeath character, as often as I want. Permanently disabling a character slot upon death is a bit more hardcore than I imagined.The only way to fix an account with 1 main and 2 burned out character slots would be a character transfer (requiring NPC corp, etc).
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:32:54 -
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Solecist Project wrote:That'd mean no suicide ganking ... ... or literal suicide ganking, which could wreck the game.
Hm.
i'm not sure about this. it depends on how they do it. For example, removing the clone penalty, they could give you the option to buy a perma death clone. For a plex if they want to be dicks, or for isk. Upon your next death, you clone into this body. Its a jove body retaining all your skills you then can get access to maybe a special jove ship, but only one. You can JC out of this body, but it might have a penalty. Anyway, this body would be perma death, and have some type of advantage, like faster skill training. And if you die, that it, dead.
People would not suicide, cause you risk your char, they would love to gank these players though. And if you add a penalty that you lose your name for xx time... might make people not do stupid things with it.
would add an interesting level of game play though
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Kadon Kain
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.15 03:54:11 -
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Im against all forms of this idea.
We dont need "the masses", never have. The trickle in and out of the community is enough. If you bring the kiddie zerg p2w model, the tradeoff will NOT be worth it in the longrun. I believe it woukd only speed up the inevitble. its not like you will be attracting a crowd that will stick around for 3+ years of commitment. Instant gratification and rewards for little to no work, thought, or achievement are already playing negative roles in our real lives, dont do it to the game.
You cant prevent death, and it WILL happen eventually. You can live a long and full live before dying with some dignity, grace, and the respect of others.
Think of another way, though guard it well if you find it. The golden goose of mmo development. All of the others only polish the turd as long as possible and thats what this model/idea reeks of. (not saying eve is a turd at all, just using an example) |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
458
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:46:26 -
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Rain6637 wrote:speaking of mouth and lips, k8 dug up this picture... and today I learned Jove are four feet tall.
Now that's take-home-to-momma material right there I tell you !
Sign me up!
I'm getting a Sleeper vibe tho...
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
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