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MajorUrsa
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Posted - 2006.08.26 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Valeris Edited by: Valeris on 25/08/2006 11:17:32 Maybe give players the ability to use their own custom avatar (which is marked as custom) while there is no game avatar available yet? So players can resize and upload it themselves.
Pretty good idea. And the absurd part about it is that this would actually be fastest. I would send a screenshot from the game within a few minutes.
I don't believe all the talk about crawling and rendering. One machine could crawl all players within a month. Another one could render them, maybe 1 per minute, 60 per hour, 1400 per day, 70 days for 100.000 users. So 2 months.
Somebody is making this more complicated then needed. Is this getting symptomatic?
Quote: 3 years and 1 month and counting by the way.
Could some official from CCP please come out and tell us that this is NOT ridiculous?
Ursa..
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MajorUrsa
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Posted - 2006.08.27 01:03:00 -
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There is one other thing I don't understand about this issue. It was said the the portraits and their paramaters reside only on the player's computer and thus will have to be fetched from there one by one.
When I view the Info about another player in the game I get to see a nice thumbnail-picture of his/hers portrait. This portrait has to be requested and a slight pause is noticable. So, where does this portrait come from? Is it requested through a peer-to-peer connection between the players' systems? More probably it is fetched through the EVE servers somehow, so it must reside there somewhere already. Since almost all players' Info will have been viewed by another player at some point it would sound plausible that nearly all portraits are available on the servers already, somewhere. So, what gives????
Ursa..
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Yeng Chi
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.27 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: Yeng Chi on 27/08/2006 05:24:12
Originally by: MajorUrsa This portrait has to be requested and a slight pause is noticable.
I can't say that I'm 100% sure, BUT I think what you ask the server is what properties the portrait has, like what race/hair/facial morph and so on. Then your computer generates the portrait and stores it in your cache directory.
The last part is what the problem is about. Generating the actual graphics.
EDIT: This is also proven if you got a messed up gfx card like my laptop does. All portraits get generated with 2 mouths, even though it may look good on my stationary computer ;)
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Zarrika Khan
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.27 17:40:00 -
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How about this one:
When I started my Character I had my forum portiat right away, then one day it vanished and has not returned since.
Hmm....
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Alexis Flamestar
Gallente ANZEP Australia-New Zealand Eve Players Group
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Posted - 2006.08.27 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: MajorUrsa There is one other thing I don't understand about this issue. It was said the the portraits and their paramaters reside only on the player's computer and thus will have to be fetched from there one by one.
Since the "!" portrait URL is to an eve server. (http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=bigshot&cid=135722244) It comes from the Eve Server the current portrait you see of yourself in-game comes from you hard drive but you are the only one that sees this version. Others see the version on the Eve Server.
Cheers
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Mitsumi Takahashi
Caldari Naasirka
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Posted - 2006.08.27 23:25:00 -
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Oh noes! The pirates are exclamation marks now, too!
Linkage
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MajorUrsa
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Posted - 2006.08.28 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Yeng Chi
EDIT: This is also proven if you got a messed up gfx card like my laptop does. All portraits get generated with 2 mouths, even though it may look good on my stationary computer ;)
Yes, good thinking, that sounds plausible, although I can not think of the reasons behind that design decision. A .png of the thumbnail size would take at most 3K in size. Maybe the file with the atributes would be only 0,5K but all the hassle makes the efficiency effort rather moot.
And I still don't know why the rendering of such a protrait would be so complicated to be an obstacle.
If all thinks fail they could add a render instruction to the next patch and let the clients send all the pictures to the servers; another 3K in our personal databases can't make the difference....
Ursa..
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Yeng Chi
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.28 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: MajorUrsa And I still don't know why the rendering of such a protrait would be so complicated to be an obstacle.
I have to agree that it sounds amazing that some has been without a portrait for maybe 6 months. Imho it would be better to put a CCP employees regular desktop computer to crunch those and get it done in a couple of months. Atleast that's better then nothing >_>
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Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:04:00 -
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the portraits not generating issue is being looked into
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Merovingienne
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Merovingienne on 28/08/2006 12:50:14 My character is 6 months old and still no portrait!!!
My portrait does appear in chat and on the character sheet but not here in the forums or in EveMon and previously ECM....
Yet... younger alt characters on the same account are fine????
Mero
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Shukun Koufu
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:00:00 -
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Same here!
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.08.28 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Andargor theWise
Originally by: MajorUrsa
Originally by: Saucerhead Now, as we're getting offtopice here, i hope your curiosity is satisfied.
I don't think it is OT, but yes, thank you for explaining. Also thanks to Andargor theWise for the informative quotes. When was this written?
Ursa..
First quote (Post #27, 2006.02.23 10:14:00)
Second Quote (Post #122, 2006.03.15 17:02:00)
Here's a quote from t20's blog published on 2006.06.05:
Originally by: t20
The position I'm currently holding has nothing to do with the CCP websites at this point, I will however continue to support the data-exports. ... CCP's constant expanding employee-base has allowed us to hire more people for the web department (or WebCell as we refer to it) and we jumped the 5 mark for this department, so my position in WebCell has been filled and then some.
So, more employees = slower service? Or maybe having to relog several times to post is an actual "feature"? I don't know.
By the way, I swapped my portrait 10 months ago, still have the old one show up on the forums.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
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Posted - 2006.08.29 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait the portraits not generating issue is being looked into
that is just funny stuff that urs is not coming up either Sharkbait haha!!
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Armageus
Caldari Galactic Union
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Posted - 2006.08.29 04:49:00 -
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figure this out. my 4 month old account is still a !. but my alt who has only posted here once has a picture. wft. could we get this swapped.
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Sun Bo
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.29 04:51:00 -
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I'll tack my name here - 6 mos - still !
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Pookie McPook
Nova Synergy PLC
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait the portraits not generating issue is being looked into
Maybe the answer here is to delete the avatars entirely and for everyone to publish signatures?
IMO the majority of people get ticked off looking at the ! more than they would if it wasn't there at all. We can edit what appears below it, why not just give an option to toggle off the avatar itself?
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Stickey Crak
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Posted - 2006.08.30 14:05:00 -
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oh geez let us all cry and moan about how noone else can see your incredibly beautiful characters.. heres a fact for all.. noone gives a damn.
i think CCP has something more important to worry about thn you ppl crying about ur char portraits
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TaxmanX
Caldari Exil Industries Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.30 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: TaxmanX on 30/08/2006 23:24:51 Edited by: TaxmanX on 30/08/2006 23:24:34
Originally by: Stickey Crak oh geez let us all cry and moan about how noone else can see your incredibly beautiful characters.. heres a fact for all.. noone gives a damn.
i think CCP has something more important to worry about thn you ppl crying about ur char portraits
I think you live up to your name, and you can't seem to be troubled to use a shift key. The point is not that people here are "whining", we are pointing out that there IS actually a problem (not just a delay), and the dev team is NOW aware of it. So thanks for your opinion.
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Deric Draco
Gallente QUANT Corp.
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Posted - 2006.08.31 03:01:00 -
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Does it have to do with just the 1st char created? My alt shows up fine, just my main is !. 4 months or so.
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Coda Relic
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.31 05:10:00 -
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I, too, was able to see my portrait on my first post... I guess I eve-olved into the almighty existential '!'...
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Pookie McPook
Nova Synergy PLC
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Posted - 2006.08.31 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Deric Draco Does it have to do with just the 1st char created? My alt shows up fine, just my main is !. 4 months or so.
IMO no......both my chars are proud owners of the mighty !
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Eraggan Sadarr
Caldari Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.09.01 13:38:00 -
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mines there
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Ju Blimb
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Posted - 2006.09.01 15:25:00 -
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! rocks
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Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.04 07:36:00 -
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I would be very thankful if the protraits can be rendered again I am missing a few faces of players I have known for months now and that is just weird.
If this keeps up I might just start multiplying some BM's in revenge ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |
Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Stickey Crak oh geez let us all cry and moan about how noone else can see your incredibly beautiful characters.. heres a fact for all.. noone gives a damn.
i think CCP has something more important to worry about thn you ppl crying about ur char portraits
Although I agree that people are being a little melodramatic about it, I find it hard to take your argument seriously, seeing as how you have your portrait. - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |
Akira Ito
Band of Monkeys
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Posted - 2006.09.05 06:30:00 -
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Edited by: Akira Ito on 05/09/2006 06:32:09
Originally by: Coda Relic I, too, was able to see my portrait on my first post... I guess I eve-olved into the almighty existential '!'...
Same here, my char has an avatar when he was one month old. Then (because of CCP servers moved?) it became bang mark again.
Weird and kinda upsetting. __________
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Miranda Duvall
Gallente OPM Holdings
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Posted - 2006.09.05 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait the portraits not generating issue is being looked into
Dont look at sharkbaits post, look at his picture
I think he did that on purpose out of solidarity...
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Coda Relic
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Miranda Duvall
Originally by: Sharkbait the portraits not generating issue is being looked into
Dont look at sharkbaits post, look at his picture
I think he did that on purpose out of solidarity...
LOL, the devs Roshambo'd to see who would get stuck as the martyr !. Poor sharkbait...
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Talani Allure
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Posted - 2006.09.05 23:59:00 -
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add another no portrait. been 5 months now. :(
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Revenant Force
Gallente ironwood ink
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:06:00 -
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Yeah ive been playing for about 4 months...still a big !. I guess we just get passed over lol.
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