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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.21 01:33:38 -
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*shrugs* So, I can make a battleship the same size as an orca for 1/5 (or less) the cost.
Doesn't this put the safety back into W-space? I'm not sure I understand the intent of the last patch with this new rig. I'll use it, but it just seems convoluted as hell. |
Angsty Teenager
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
619
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Posted - 2014.10.21 01:59:46 -
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This rig is are garbage for rolling.
They weren't introduced for wormholes either, they're apparently for miners so that they don't get out of range of rocks as quickly if they're mining aligned--LOL.
Fozzie can you just revert the stupid change to wh jumps? pls? |
Faren Shalni
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
73
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Posted - 2014.10.21 08:21:13 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:This rig is are garbage for rolling.
They weren't introduced for wormholes either, they're apparently for miners so that they don't get out of range of rocks as quickly if they're mining aligned--LOL.
Fozzie can you just revert the stupid change to wh jumps? pls?
but that means admitting hes wrong........ OMG a flying pig
So Much Space
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Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's Wormhole Clown Car
30
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:45:00 -
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one thing you guys are assuming so far is that these rigs will be available in all sizes :)
if you look at how ccp has seeded these in the past, that hasn't always been true. don't be surprised if it's only available in the medium and/or large flavor. I don't see these being made available for capital rig sizes. Shall see though. |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
248
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Posted - 2014.11.04 22:03:32 -
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Faren Shalni wrote:Angsty Teenager wrote:This rig is are garbage for rolling.
They weren't introduced for wormholes either, they're apparently for miners so that they don't get out of range of rocks as quickly if they're mining aligned--LOL.
Fozzie can you just revert the stupid change to wh jumps? pls? but that means admitting hes wrong........ OMG a flying pig
Oh look, a winning lottery ticket. |
Dubir Shazih
Hole Holdings ArK Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.11.06 03:35:49 -
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So, based on my C2 roll holling in a Geddon with one of these, first off they increase all mass by 100% including plates and MWDs, which means that a geddon can't actually hit that perfect 300m mass for our holes because the rig puts it at around 210m without plates and the MWD puts it over 300. Based on the single roll I have used the ship for it didn't actually require less rolls, maybe if we had another person or two doing it it would help. The slow boat back to the hole doesn't get that much worse, although it is a little slower. Align time is definitely faster so bouncing is easier. Just my .02 isk, basically not all that helpful for me. |
Takashi Sama
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
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Posted - 2014.11.06 08:46:56 -
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Dubir Shazih wrote:So, based on my C2 roll holling in a Geddon with one of these, first off they increase all mass by 100% including plates and MWDs, which means that a geddon can't actually hit that perfect 300m mass for our holes because the rig puts it at around 210m without plates and the MWD puts it over 300. Based on the single roll I have used the ship for it didn't actually require less rolls, maybe if we had another person or two doing it it would help. The slow boat back to the hole doesn't get that much worse, although it is a little slower. Align time is definitely faster so bouncing is easier. Just my .02 isk, basically not all that helpful for me.
Use a ship like the Megathron, you can get 299.8m mass with a 800mm plate, if you don't have armor layering. Very useful for me as I no longer need that Orca. |
Dubir Shazih
Hole Holdings ArK Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:32:34 -
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Takashi Sama wrote:Dubir Shazih wrote:So, based on my C2 roll holling in a Geddon with one of these, first off they increase all mass by 100% including plates and MWDs, which means that a geddon can't actually hit that perfect 300m mass for our holes because the rig puts it at around 210m without plates and the MWD puts it over 300. Based on the single roll I have used the ship for it didn't actually require less rolls, maybe if we had another person or two doing it it would help. The slow boat back to the hole doesn't get that much worse, although it is a little slower. Align time is definitely faster so bouncing is easier. Just my .02 isk, basically not all that helpful for me. Use a ship like the Megathron, you can get 299.8m mass with a 800mm plate, if you don't have armor layering. Very useful for me as I no longer need that Orca.
Thanks! I know I need another ship but I wasn't sure which one. |
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's Wormhole Clown Car
33
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:04:15 -
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Tempest works as well, but I am guessing that that rig is not supposed to work like that. At least imo, it doesn't make sense. But hey, rolling orca instead of dread isn't horrible for higher classes? |
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