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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:30:07 -
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Thing with titans is that they allow other ships to jump in similar fashion as capitalships that have their their own jump drives. How ever CCP being CCP titans have jump and bridge right next to each other in "the jump menu" and sometimes (as in almost never) the pilot accidentally jumps his titan along with the fleet which usually means that there will be blood, lots of blood, oceans of blood and even more kill hungry pilots eager for their first titan kill.
Since after that fubar titans life span and you bank roll ticking towards negative 114bil isk can be counted in minutes there's a need for a quick alert systems. |
Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:51:08 -
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Baneken wrote:Thing with titans is that they allow other ships to jump in similar fashion as capitalships that have their their own jump drives. How ever CCP being CCP titans have jump and bridge right next to each other in "the jump menu" and sometimes (as in almost never) the pilot accidentally jumps his titan along with the fleet which usually means that there will be blood, lots of blood, oceans of blood and even more kill hungry pilots eager for their first titan kill.
Since after that fubar titans life span and you bank roll ticking towards negative 114bil isk can be counted in minutes there's a need for a quick alert systems.
Kinda understood this. Looks like I'll be dedicating the new few hours to reading about titans/supercapitals and how they work. I'm at work on conf calls and literally didn't realize how much time I'd spent reading on these forums. I just discovered the existence of "sov-null" which I think to understand as being areas of 0.0 that are controlled and have sovereignty to a corp/alliance. It sounds to me like a whole other "gameplay mode", as the characteristics of it are very different than other thigns I've read about.
Every time I think I'm starting to understand EVE, I stumble upon some word or phrase I don't understand, google it, and then spend the next X hours reading about some aspect of EVE I have NO IDEA about.. and then inevitably while reading about that thing, people are using phrases and talking about some OTHER thing I had no idea existed.
I gotta say, at least for the first 18 days of this game, so far it continues to baffle, intrigue and amaze me every day. I can only assume those are experiences that continue to occur for years and/or lifetime of career. |
L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
213
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:55:25 -
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Just wait until you are so far down the rabbit hole, that you start to map out all the out of game websites and narratives trying to drive specific outcomes in-game and the "why?"s |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
334
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:05:44 -
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Titans and other super capitals works like any other ships in the game but they have some things that make them apart from the flock mainly in that super capitals cannot:
- dock to station ever meaning you have to have a sfae place in space where to 'park' your shiney each night usually on an apply named "titan POS" and everyone wanting to steal a super capital means that you can also never ever leave from your ship. Hence these boards have continuing supply and demand for the so called "baby sitter" characters that have only one meaning allowing that super capital to log off from the game so that it cannot be stolen.
- Cannot use stargates they have to use jump drive to move between systems (this applies to regular capitals as well) this will change in the next patch how ever. - Cannot enter high sec ever only ones still remaining in high sec are a special case governed by special rules that are monitored closely by GM's, goes for smaller capitals as well. - Require sovereignty to build and cannot built on stations this once again doesn't concern regular capitals.
other differences are mostly because of the ship characteristics and modules that can be fitted only in super capitals. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2136
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:07:25 -
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Butts Alad wrote:I gotta say, at least for the first 18 days of this game, so far it continues to baffle, intrigue and amaze me every day. I can only assume those are experiences that continue to occur for years and/or lifetime of career. it fades after a while, but you will always have the occasional 'ooooh' moment, especially when you find yourself doing something new.
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Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:25:00 -
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L'ouris wrote:Just wait until you are so far down the rabbit hole, that you start to map out all the out of game websites and narratives trying to drive specific outcomes in-game and the "why?"s
Yeah... I know this probably isn't much, but I already have a little folder on my desk with about 15 pages of maps, charts, outlines etc. that I reference regularly while playing! My GF looks at me while I'm playing and teases me that it looks like I've come home from work to research and do more work; like a lawyer. |
L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
213
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Posted - 2014.10.21 22:04:27 -
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Not exactly what I meant, but probably better to think that's what I meant.
For now anyways |
Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.21 23:29:27 -
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L'ouris wrote:Not exactly what I meant, but probably better to think that's what I meant. For now anyways
OIC, the "paranoid" OOG activities that people engage in for intelligence/counter-intelligence and political work? |
Forest Archer
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
165
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:16:15 -
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Well infiltration is the most common activities, gives access to know what happens on comms routines, doctrines, fcs, forums, super pilots, and even can become directors and disrupt sov or poses.
Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up.
Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post
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Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:20:50 -
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Forest Archer wrote:Well infiltration is the most common activities, gives access to know what happens on comms routines, doctrines, fcs, forums, super pilots, and even can become directors and disrupt sov or poses.
LOL, here's some more terms I need to look up (with respect to EVE): comm routines, doctrines, fcs, super pilot, sov, pos |
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Forest Archer
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
165
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Posted - 2014.10.22 01:26:10 -
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Butts Alad wrote:Forest Archer wrote:Well infiltration is the most common activities, gives access to know what happens on comms routines, doctrines, fcs, forums, super pilots, and even can become directors and disrupt sov or poses. LOL, here's some more terms I need to look up (with respect to EVE): comm routines, doctrines, fcs, super pilot, sov, pos
Comms- voice communications Doctrines- specific fleet ships and formations Fcs- fleet commanders who lead fleets and call targets Super pilots- pilots of titans and super carriers Sov- null/0.0 sovereignty Pos- player owned starbase
Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up.
Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post
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Heather Austrene
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.10.22 08:49:06 -
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Yeah, being stuck with your character is sorta harsh. I regret a little choosing a female toon, and even more such a generic name. Being called Heather on comms is pretty weird if you are a guy. But this was in fact the first game of this type I've ever played. Only other multiplayer online game I've played is backgammon, and there you can just create a new name and most sites that keep ratings and such will just merge records for you. Seems like there should be a way to change your character even if you have to pay for it. The change could be recorded in your profile to prevent using this process for most nefarious purposes. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4726
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:14:05 -
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Butts Alad wrote:Forest Archer wrote:Well infiltration is the most common activities, gives access to know what happens on comms routines, doctrines, fcs, forums, super pilots, and even can become directors and disrupt sov or poses. LOL, here's some more terms I need to look up (with respect to EVE): comm routines, doctrines, fcs, super pilot, sov, pos
think he missed the comma between comms and routines:
comms = hang around on enemies comms (Teamspeak, Vent, Mumble) to keep track of what they are doing.
routines = When are they doing certain ops (mining ops etc.), where do they stage from, when are their jump freighters hauling goods etc.
doctrines = A doctrine are certain ships with specific fits that supplement each other in a fleet fight (say long range armor tanked DPS fits, armor logistic cruisers, long point fits, etc).
FCs = Fleet commanders. For an enemy fleet it is good to know who the FC (and back up FCs) is. Take them out, and you more or less leave the fleet you are fighting without command.
Super pilots = People who own a super capital (Titan or Supercarrier). Good to know who they are (and who their babysitting alt is), watchlist them and you can tell when it is likely they are deploying said ship (to know when to back off or when to pick up the batphone and call for back up to score a nice kill).
SOV = Sovereignty null-sec. Systems in null-sec that can be claimed by an alliance (as opposed to NPC null-sec which are owned by NPC factions).
POS = Player Owned Structure. These are structures anchored around moons where people can base out of and can do many things (safe keeping of ships, production of goods, moon mining, research, guarding SOV related structures, jump bridge networking). These are destructable and usually very interesting objects that are prime targets in a war.
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Forest Archer
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
165
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Posted - 2014.10.22 10:12:29 -
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Thanks J'Poll I was a tired.
Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up.
Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
41
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Posted - 2014.10.22 11:35:29 -
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I often wish I could change my name. I usually just throw *some* name into screen names, usually something with "phantom". I didn't realize it would actually become a real "name" per say. But this is what I am stuck with, and this is how people address me on TS /me shrugs
And it hsoulnd't be a problem getting into a corp, we have plenty of other people in our alliance with weird names, it's the reputation that's important |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
249
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Posted - 2014.10.22 11:49:55 -
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1vs1 me on rust m8
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Man Milk
Fluoro Neuro Sponge
10
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Posted - 2014.10.22 12:41:21 -
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Hey, as a carnivore the salad part of your name offends me. In fact expressing your real world sense of humour and personality by stringing together a few letters of the alphabet to form an character name that is amusing is a crime. How dare you?!? ;D |
Rogue Aspire
Redemption Road Affirmative.
11
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Posted - 2014.10.22 12:45:34 -
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Butts Alad wrote:I applied to join E-Uni and my application was rejected, before I even got an interview. They have a policy of not explaining the why, so I was left with a big question. I believe I followed all the instructions and I am generally an inquisitive and positive player. It was suggested to me that my player name may have been the reason. Then in the E-Uni chat room I was in, people kinda piled on that. So my question is this: Is my character name going to be a problem for me?
Let me just say first off, I'm a 32yr old manager and I'm not a child. I'm not 16 and I'm not a FPS player on voice who's constantly yelling things about people being gay, stupid, l2p etc. I realize my name is cheeky, but seriously, I didn't realize how "serious" this game is. I got a response to that of "welcome to the real world". My name comes from a cute thing my gf says instead of cursing sometimes, "butt salad". Okay, I get it; it's kind of childish. In almost any other MMO or game for that matter, i couldn't imagine that a name like mine would ever be questioned, and I have seen MUCH worse in the this game. I've never seen anyone get booted froma guild or group in Guild Wars 2 for a name like mine. I'm not an expert though, and this isn't GW2. When people started piling on that my name could be offensive to some and might cause problems for me, I was stunned. I was told corps might not accept me, or FCs in fleet chat might be annoyed at my name. But, that was just one chat room at one time. So, I'm reaching out to you guys.
I also briefly looked into name changing, but that probably isn't going to happen. It's been suggested that CCP doesn't do that unless the name is reported as offensive. I could report it myself, but then it was suggested I might get a name like "Minmatar Citizen 720480257304423". It was also suggested that I just create a new character, but I don't want to start over. I'm 17 days in and that's 17 days straight of training and such, and I realize that isn't very long in the grand scheme of this game, but idk, I don't really want to start from scratch at this point.
TLDR: Do you think my name is going to cause problems for me, given the serious nature of this game? I dont believe butts salad is odd or offensive. While a lot of the sexually deprived ones may assume it has to do with the buttocks I actually think it was more like cigarette butts...
Joking aside you can always try petitioning for a name change. Find two or three names you may want and see if the GM is having a good day.
Other option if your really new and low sp is biomass or create a new main. You have three slots to play with.
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Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:40:56 -
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Thank you all for your comments, very much appreciated (esp J'Poll, your info supply is quite extensive)! I have been granted a name change exception, due to the newness of my char, and that fact that I haven't done much of anything yet except the tutorial and started SoE epic arc. I wanted to use "Octave Arpegius" but both that and "Arpegius Octave" are taken! Neither has a picture when I bring them up, so I'm not sure what that means... somehow they reserved the name without creating a character, or hid their image somehow? Anyway, I didn't have time yesterday to give it much thought after Discovery(ing) [anyone catch that?] that the names were taken. |
Forest Archer
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
165
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Posted - 2014.10.22 21:00:42 -
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You are welcome for the help and you are welcome to bother us any time with questions if you have them.and congrats on the name change.
Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up.
Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20967
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Posted - 2014.10.22 21:03:26 -
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Butts Alad wrote:I wanted to use "Octave Arpegius" but both that and "Arpegius Octave" are taken! Neither has a picture when I bring them up, so I'm not sure what that means... somehow they reserved the name without creating a character, or hid their image somehow? They're probably legacy characters that were created prior to the Incursion expansion in November 2010, when we got the current character generator. Any old accounts that haven't logged into the game since then will show as faceless, some people are still using older characters as forum alts, that never log into the game, which is why you'll see the occasional faceless poster.
The old character generator created some epic portraits though, Backdoor Bandit, and Skyflyer* spring to mind
*Skyflyer is the original source of "Dude, your face"
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Syssitia Nikostratos
Viziam Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:35:38 -
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Quote:Same here. When I started the game it was on a Friday after work, and I just wanted to get into the game and see if I even liked it. I didn't spend too much time on my character's look (though it's def grown on me) and the name I just poached from one of my GW2 characters. I wasn't trying to be 12 or anything, just get into the game and see what it was all about. With RPG-ish games, I'll often skip character creation to get right into the game, see how it runs, see what it looks like and how it plays, and then go back and spend hours and hours making my character. 18 days later, I'm still playing and totally forgot to reroll.
No word from CCP yet on the name change, and given the reaction here I def want to change it, or reroll I guess. I don't want people making assumptions about me early on w/o a track record, and I don't really care about the name at all.
Honestly, if you care that much what people think and want a new name that bad, just use one of your three account character slots to make a new one. You keep saying you don't want to start over but 17 days is NOTHING, honestly. I'm currently training on a single skill that takes nearly that long to complete. It may seem like you've put a ton of time and energy into your char at this point, but believe me, you haven't. And the longer you wait to start over, the more you lose. Just suck it up and make a new char with the name and persona you want and before you know it you'll be right back where you are now but without all the hassle.
"I thought I had a great idea today, but it never really took off. In fact, it didn't even get on the runway. I guess you could say it exploded in the hangar."
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
337
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Posted - 2014.10.23 15:49:09 -
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Butts Alad wrote:Thank you all for your comments, very much appreciated (esp J'Poll, your info supply is quite extensive)! I have been granted a name change exception, due to the newness of my char, and that fact that I haven't done much of anything yet except the tutorial and started SoE epic arc. I wanted to use "Octave Arpegius" but both that and "Arpegius Octave" are taken! Neither has a picture when I bring them up, so I'm not sure what that means... somehow they reserved the name without creating a character, or hid their image somehow? Anyway, I didn't have time yesterday to give it much thought after Discovery(ing) [anyone catch that?] that the names were taken.
No character has ever been deleted in EVE history by CCP so those are simply incative characters that haven't logged since 2011 (since game won't let you proceed unless you make a new face first). All of the old portraits have been removed from the database IIRC but there are sites dating to character changes that gave you old face and a new face side by side.
http://www.eve-avatars.com/ is a one such service but apparently not funtional anymore since it cannot find my character for example. |
Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.23 18:24:21 -
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One day I will be a famous pilot known throughout the cluster, now that my name has been rightfully corrected to my true, Conjoiner name. This isn't the last you've heard of me.
Seriously though, thank you all for your help and advice. If I have more questions about the game I'll be sure to post here. So yeah, I'll be posting. It seems the rookie help channel is very hit or miss... some pilots like to grief rookies in there. The rookie help reloaded room is good though, as are these forums.
EDIT: Odd, it shows my new name everywhere except on my posts. In the thread list, it shows my new name, as well as up top where it shows my signed-in player name. Tried logging out and in, no change. Ah well, some legacy of my old self lives on. Anyone else seeing this new post as being from "Butts Alad" to the left under my pic? |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
660
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Posted - 2014.10.23 18:39:40 -
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Clavain Conjoined wrote:EDIT: Odd, it shows my new name everywhere except on my posts. In the thread list, it shows my new name, as well as up top where it shows my signed-in player name. Tried logging out and in, no change. Ah well, some legacy of my old self lives on. Anyone else seeing this new post as being from "Butts Alad" to the left under my pic? Congrats on the name change! Give it some time. Profile pictures take a while to propagate to the forums as well. I'm sure it will update soon.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4731
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Posted - 2014.10.23 21:31:40 -
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Wow...CCP at its finest.
A. OP name on forum shows new name. B. Quoteing OP shows new name.
Yet, pictures still show old name
[:D]
btw, congrats on your new name.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
1977
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Posted - 2014.10.24 06:26:35 -
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Clavain Conjoined wrote:EDIT: Odd, it shows my new name everywhere except on my posts. In the thread list, it shows my new name, as well as up top where it shows my signed-in player name. Tried logging out and in, no change. Ah well, some legacy of my old self lives on. Anyone else seeing this new post as being from "Butts Alad" to the left under my pic? You will always be Butt Salad in our hearts!
On a side note, why would Butts Alad be perceived as a spy/awoxer? Just because it's a silly name or is there some reference I'm missing?
Final thought: you should've change it to Asssa Lad IMHO.
Make space glamorous!
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Butts Alad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.10.24 07:39:48 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Final thought: you should've change it to Asssa Lad IMHO.
This made me laugh so hard. Hadn't thought of it, but I think everyone in this thread would have either (or both): 1) At least chuckled to themselves at the sheer ridiculousness of the whole thing 2) Immediately went "I KNEW he was a spy/awoxer!" |
13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:11:02 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:You do see a lot of silly names in EVE but they tend to be on "throwaway" characters. Mainly alts that people don't care about the reputation of called things "Jita Dude" etc. It's also common for awoxing alts because they just get trashed once their reputation is ruined (though alt recycling for sec status purposes is frowned upon).
That's entirely untrue. You ever play Xbox Live? People name themselves all kinds of things when their account isn't throwawar or "alt-able" at ALL. It's a culture mismatch, one I think that condemns the culture of Eve players more than "casuals" or the much larger population out there who go against this "grain" and name themselves Jitaman or Flyboy or whatever else. Not everyone wants to name themselves after NPC characters for some pseudo-roleplay.
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
666
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Posted - 2014.10.25 16:21:20 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:That's not entirely true. FTFY
Quote:You ever play Xbox Live? 14 year olds name themselves all kinds of things when their account isn't throwawar or "alt-able" at ALL. FTFY
Quote:It's a culture mismatch, one I think that condemns the culture of Eve players more than "casuals" or the much larger population out there who go against this "grain" and name themselves Jitaman or Flyboy or whatever else. EVE is not Xbox Live (thank goodness). Your actions have consequences. No one is stopping you from making a "silly" name. They can, however, assume you are too immature to join their corp.
Have you ever been part of the recruitment process for a corporation? You are bombarded with applications from people with names like "Butt Muncher", who just want to awox/spy/steal from you (I still have his corpse). Now I ask you, which is easier? Deleting all the apps from people with stupid names, or screening through them all to find out who is actually stupid and who was just being silly?
You can't just queue up for the next lobby. The things you do in EVE persist - your character can develop and maintain a reputation. It's an immensely complicated game. If you want to be "casual" about it, you WILL miss out on some things, and you have to be prepared to accept that. It's not the fault of some "elitist" player that wants to make you miserable. It's your fault for picking a silly name. Don't blame it on "culture". If you want to be "casual", you can always find other "casuals" to play with or be learn to play solo. (Not recommend, new players. This is an MMORPG).
Quote: Not everyone wants to name themselves after NPC characters for some pseudo-roleplay. Who said anything about role-playing? I picked a name without numbers, because, you know, numbers are hard to pronounce mid-word.
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