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Theresa Khayleth
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:15:37 -
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Floyd Farnsworth wrote:One suggestion: instead of the little red/green up/down triangles, could you not just display the percentage that the item is below/above regional average directly (even if it's a smaller font)? That was my first thought, too. The multisell feature is already great, but displaying the actual percentages would make it absolutely fantastic. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
1068
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:16:54 -
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There is always money in the banana stand.
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David Kir
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
476
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:17:29 -
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we wuw you, CCP Punkturis
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
717
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:20:40 -
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Woohoo!!! Also the forums seem to have changed.
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
- Mara Rinn
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MeigsYan
Antarian Rangers
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:24:36 -
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Damjan Fox wrote:+1 for the Multisell. Thank you guys. Just one thing off the top of my head: Would be great, if we could sell items out of containers. It's pretty inconvenient always having to move stuff from a container to the item hangar first, to be able to sell it.
Agreed, please consider letting us sell directly out of containers where we have all of our "loot for sale" items already organized. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2911
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:27:16 -
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what is the limit? how many items can you sell at once?
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1072
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:30:08 -
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Really pumped!!!
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:32:33 -
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Bienator II wrote:what is the limit? how many items can you sell at once?
if you're setting up sell orders it's based on your skills
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5458
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:33:39 -
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Matthias Azaharel wrote:Quote:Instead, if you have the duration set to immediate, all items will be sold immediately to a matching buy order without incurring a brokerGÇÖs fee. If there are no buy orders available for one or more items that you're selling, their backgrounds will be orange to indicate that the sale of that item will fail. Out of curiosity, how does this interact with invalid margin buy orders (those for which the "buyer" has insufficient ISK to purchase the items)?
the same as before. order fails if it's immediate but sets up a new sell order if it has duration.
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Tahnil
Sirius Fleet AXIOS.
50
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:42:55 -
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OMG. This is far better than I have hoped for. I think I'm in love *sweetie pie* |
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Alexa Machavela
Duragon Pioneer Group Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:45:02 -
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While this will be a great improvement, I do think the tooltip for detailed information is a bit lacking. When I sell items, I find the regional average is far less helpful than knowing the range of prices for buy and sell orders, and for the buy orders, which buy orders are within range (currently highlighted in green on the market window).
Until the highest and lowest buy and sell orders are listed, I will continue using the market order window and the market window both, and I will not be using the details tooltip at all.
Aside from that, I love what you're doing to this window. Switching from using dozens of windows to just one to do the same thing is almost always an improvement. |
Vic Vorlon
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:45:11 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote: the same as before. order fails if it's immediate but sets up a new sell order if it has duration.
Perfect timing, I was about to ask about this. i'm a station trader and occasionally benefit from the mistakes of others :) I like that the new screen still preserves the ability of a seller to accidentally put up a sell order at a very low price, thx.
Oh, and +1 vote for putting the percentage above/below the current average price. There's a big difference between a 2% difference and a, say, 60% difference. Putting the same arrow on both is hiding information - the number would be much more useful. And no, please don't put it in a tooltip - I don't want to have to mouse over a lot of icons to gather the information I need.
This is a nice addition to the program, thanks Team Banana Stand! |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2911
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:47:39 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Bienator II wrote:what is the limit? how many items can you sell at once? if you're setting up sell orders it's based on your skills
so you can set up hundred at once if you have the skills and the window will support that?
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2919
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:52:57 -
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Nice, nice new feature. This will aid both the mission runner and the trader.
One thing that has always annoyed me. When I set a sell order, the price suggested by the client is never, ever, the price I want. I always have to view market details and re-set the price. Every single time for every single item. If I'm setting orders, this time consuming process makes multi-sell irrelevant. (Although it will still be quite useful when I'm just dumping a pile of mission loot at Jita.)
I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region.
In fact if you could just set the suggested price to be the best in the current station by 0.01 ISK rather than what it does currently, that would be good for a large fraction of the players. (If there is not order for that item in the current station, just have it do what it does now.)
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Bytestorm
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:55:25 -
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What I find disturbing, that if you set to "Immediate"-mode all the orange Items are included in the Total.
And +1 for the percentage instead of the icon (or next to the icon).
And last, but not least: I LOVE THIS FEATURE! GREAT WORK! |
Mikron Alexarr
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:57:33 -
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A small request:
On the current sell window, there is a quick click for showing market orders for the currently being sold item. Can we retain that? I usually will try to sell the item and then check the price it's being listed for against the current list of orders. When you aren't selling in Jita, that can be pretty important.
Also, you mentioned skills for the number of items to be sold at once.... are you adding a skill for increasing the number of items you can multisell? Or are you talking about the skills for number of currently active orders affecting the number of items you can multisell? |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
767
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:59:37 -
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Oh.... I love this Great feature.
Also.. BANANA
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Bytestorm
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
27
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:03:20 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region.
I don't like that idea. That should still be the "job" of the margin-trader. No one would use buy-orders again and none would fulfill.
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Schwa Nuts
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:04:28 -
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Shame on CCP for not sending CCP Punkturis to Vegas. |
Dwissi
Miners Delight
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:07:22 -
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That is one lovely thing to look at - well done indeed!! The pink pony strikes back
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2919
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:10:48 -
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Bytestorm wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I wish I had some sort of savable preference option for the suggested sale price. Most of the time I would choose the option "Best in my station", which would set the price to 0.01 ISK below the current lowest sale price in my station. But I could also see "Average in my station" and different ranges, like solar system or region. I don't like that idea. That should still be the "job" of the margin-trader. No one would use buy-orders again and none would fulfill. Eve is not a job. It's a game.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
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HC GularTog
HC Dude's Rough Riders
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:13:08 -
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Quote:muhadin wrote: This is by far one of the best little things that I'm sure many veteran players have been wishing for. Great work.
.... better late than never I say ..... only something we been wanting and asking for since beta, lol
CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the Company Motto...
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:13:56 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Eve is not a job. It's a game. I..... but...... what?
CCP, I understand that "To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto...
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
850
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:14:16 -
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Kismeteer wrote:Nice interface, Punkturis! I tried this on sisi, but it was hard to do much testing due to the lack of buy orders.
Is there maybe a group of items we can standardize on sisi to do some major testing? Like some little used item with major buy orders for different types of prices?
That 'buy an entire ship fitting' idea is gold too.
NPC stuff like industrial goods.
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Feer Truelight
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:18:27 -
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Can we get the market detail button? So you get fast and easy to the market details like it is now?
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leeloodallas Multisell
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:18:53 -
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I approve of this product and/or service.
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
1132
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:23:49 -
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so totally awesome, thank you ccp!
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2911
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:28:55 -
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the X for removing the item is placed in the middle of the row which is a little intuitive. http://i.imgur.com/GuWs4s7.png having it left or right would be better IMO
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Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
35
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:40:36 -
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<3 will test on singularity soon.
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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
9
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:48:57 -
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I love the idea behind this but stand firm in that the "Regional Average" price is far from accurate. And in many cases needs further adjustment by the player to be actually meaningful which then negates the advantage of a multi-sell window. This is of course because they are using the same value as they give us for "Estimated Value".
Would be an interesting study to go through the market and list how much disparity there is between the "Suggested Price" and the actual lowest sell and highest buy, as well as they avg price for that day or the day before (the little yellow dot). I've seen throughout the game numerous items that were infact completely worthless that had such ridiculous estimated values to make them seem worthwhile, only because some tard had a stupid high sell order buried at the bottom of the market screen in the back end of the region.
So unless they change the accuracy of the value they are providing then I can picture a lot of these new multi-sell orders ending up halfway down the market screen because the information is so horribly incorrect, or in some cases they posted sell prices might actually be lower than a current buy order. And until this Regional Average/Estimated Price is changed to be what it should be, I will continue to right-click and check market orders on everything, negating what is otherwise a good step in the right direction.
But since the market info on Sisi is somewhat, uh, lacking, I see this will be very hard to test out unless someone with more time than me can do the comparison on all (or least least quite a lot of) the items on the markets currently. |
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