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Zefran Cochran
Gallente White Nova Industries Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.19 08:53:00 -
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All the new electronic warfare drones are nice to have. They have an average speed engaging a target but when you recall them, they are very very slow to come back to the dronebay :(
Could they be made so they return at the same speed as they engage at?
A 20km trip from a SW Berserker drone should not take 10 minutes to return to a dronebay. What type of fleet is going to hang around and wait 10 minutes for drones to redock?
Please look into this CCP
Right now, I have to jetison a can and make them attack it so that they can come faster. It's counter-productive :(
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Awox
Awox Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.19 09:28:00 -
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C'mon it's bad enough you start killing drones Gallente can just pull them back. If they MWD back I would be ****ed. :( - nerf 0.5+ |
Audrea
Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.08.19 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Awox C'mon it's bad enough you start killing drones Gallente can just pull them back. If they MWD back I would be ****ed. :(
No, ALL drones need to return a lot faster than they do today, its not fair that missile users can warp out if they loose, and only have ammo wasted, while if an Ishtar is forced to warp out, it can loose 5 drones, each costs more than 1 mil! how is that fair?! ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.08.19 10:00:00 -
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/signed...make em faster
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Sasadasa
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:16:00 -
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damn true. Damn Signed
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Thud
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:18:00 -
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Yeah,its not fair that the ishtar/domi solo pwnmobiles have weak points.
Really,there are some seriuos balancing thingis in eve atm,but drones and droneboats rock,there are lots of things that need mutch more boost than drones.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:34:00 -
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I mentioned this ages ago while the devs were doing drone fixes. It didn't make it in.
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Gerontiq
Gallente Novastorm Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:35:00 -
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I agree with the original poster; slow and buggy return times are major inconvenience when using drones. Fighters are even worse (and also what's with the orbiting you outside of scoop range?). I can't see any gameplay reason for the way it currently works; it just seems like a bug that needs fixing. Yes tanked/ew/nosfer/drone ships are very powerful in small fights, but also pretty useless in a larger engagement not least cos you are likely to lose all your drones when warping out, cos they return so damned slowly. If gameplay mechanics need looking at thats one thing, but having drones as a pain in the a$$ to manage doesn't seem like a good way to address this.
Gerontiq
"The only thing certain about this life, is having to get up for work in the other one in the morning" |
inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Thud Really,there are some seriuos balancing thingis in eve atm,but drones and droneboats rock,there are lots of things that need mutch more boost than drones.
There is no logic in drones being able to move out to a target faster than they can come back.
It's a bug.
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:35:00 -
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whats the point? the devs dont care about us drone users ______________
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Thud Yeah,its not fair that the ishtar/domi solo pwnmobiles have weak points.
Really,there are some seriuos balancing thingis in eve atm,but drones and droneboats rock,there are lots of things that need mutch more boost than drones.
Oh yeah, beacause Heavy shield/armour repair drones not being able to keap up with a BS with an afterburner on was intended by CCP as a balancing factor
How about your guns or missile hardpoints randomly breakdown, then take 10mins before they can be used again, during this time they can be shot off your ship or if you warp off they get left behind?
It is a BUG, its nothing to do with balance......
CEO - Art of War
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FawKa
Gallente Nova Elements The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea
Originally by: Awox C'mon it's bad enough you start killing drones Gallente can just pull them back. If they MWD back I would be ****ed. :(
No, ALL drones need to return a lot faster than they do today, its not fair that missile users can warp out if they loose, and only have ammo wasted, while if an Ishtar is forced to warp out, it can loose 5 drones, each costs more than 1 mil! how is that fair?!
You just said it yourself. They pay for the ammo - you pay for the drones. And there's a navigation drone skill and mod now. So please..
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Onin Ra
Trail of Tears
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Posted - 2006.08.19 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: FawKa
Originally by: Audrea
Originally by: Awox C'mon it's bad enough you start killing drones Gallente can just pull them back. If they MWD back I would be ****ed. :(
No, ALL drones need to return a lot faster than they do today, its not fair that missile users can warp out if they loose, and only have ammo wasted, while if an Ishtar is forced to warp out, it can loose 5 drones, each costs more than 1 mil! how is that fair?!
You just said it yourself. They pay for the ammo - you pay for the drones. And there's a navigation drone skill and mod now. So please..
uhm, drones move to their target with max speed, BUT come back with orbit speed. Has nothing to do with skills/balance etc. Just a bug. Get a clue man. _________________________________________ First pvp expirience in eve is alot like having first sex, you have absolutely no idea what you are doing, but it is exciting and one way or another |
nahtoh
Caldari Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.19 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Onin Ra
Originally by: FawKa
Originally by: Audrea
Originally by: Awox C'mon it's bad enough you start killing drones Gallente can just pull them back. If they MWD back I would be ****ed. :(
No, ALL drones need to return a lot faster than they do today, its not fair that missile users can warp out if they loose, and only have ammo wasted, while if an Ishtar is forced to warp out, it can loose 5 drones, each costs more than 1 mil! how is that fair?!
You just said it yourself. They pay for the ammo - you pay for the drones. And there's a navigation drone skill and mod now. So please..
uhm, drones move to their target with max speed, BUT come back with orbit speed. Has nothing to do with skills/balance etc. Just a bug. Get a clue man.
They don't do it all the time...well not when i use em. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Areconus
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Posted - 2006.08.19 15:21:00 -
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Yes they definetly need to return muc faster...the other day I was doing a plex in a domi traveling 145 m/s towards a gisti bs....and i must have clicked the return button 10 imes..and they never returned because my battleship was traveling faster than the drones!!
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.19 15:21:00 -
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Is it actually a bug ?
It seems reasonable to me that if you want to get out in a hurry you should have to abbandon your drones. And having them MWD back would make drones almost invulnerable if you micromanage them well enough.
<Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing <Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head |
Alekto Erinys
Platinum Investments
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Posted - 2006.08.19 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha Is it actually a bug ?
It seems reasonable to me that if you want to get out in a hurry you should have to abbandon your drones. And having them MWD back would make drones almost invulnerable if you micromanage them well enough.
Nahhh, they can still easily be smartbombed or webbed then finished off. And come on, missile/turret users would whine to no end if they had to leave their weapons behind when running. I don't think that there's any doubt that this is a bug.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.19 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha Is it actually a bug ?
It's the same bug that makes Valkyires ineffective against interceptors. The 'ceptor just slows down to force them into orbit speed, then accelerates away. Drones won't leave orbit mode once they've gone into it, even after destroying their target, until you tell them to engage a new target.
Unless jettisoning a can, targetting it and using that to recall drones at full speed is meant to be a better solution.
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Rigsta
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.08.20 00:01:00 -
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Signed, but it seems this is the wrong forum and the thread will get buried/ignored :/ ----------------------------------------------- CRY HAVOC! And let slip the combat drones! To meander aimlessly towards your target... Perhaps stopping for a picnic along the way... And then turn |
McScruff
Terra Incognita Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.21 04:24:00 -
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Hate to ruin your party here guys but.....
Drones already DO MWD back.
Try the Return to Drone Bay option some time. ______________________________________
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X99 Z990
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Posted - 2006.08.21 04:36:00 -
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Yea i get the problem with EW drones.
Combat drones work fine, no real reason for the EWs to return at such a low speed; it needs fixing.
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.08.21 06:25:00 -
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dunno, my drones return fine with their mwd. Getting back smoothly while I'm orbiting around in my Ishtar. Those are combat drones though, didn't use EWAR ones much. It's while NPCing though, perhaps they are bugged for pvp only :))
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest
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Posted - 2006.08.21 06:40:00 -
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don't forget the baby fighters! for the love of all that is sacred don't forget the baby fighters!
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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EyeMaster
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Posted - 2006.08.21 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: McScruff
Try the Return to Drone Bay option some time.
True, you can command them to return to drone bay, but half the time they mwd back only to stop 100-200m outside scoop range and start moving at 130m/s. You have no choice but to slow down and wait for them to catch up or turn around and drive to pick em up.
If you are aligning to run from a threat you dont have the option of slowing, your only choice is to abandon them.
Even my old raven was outrunning its medium drones while moving at a paltry 138 meters per second.
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ElCoCo
Gallente KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.21 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: FawKa You just said it yourself. They pay for the ammo - you pay for the drones. And there's a navigation drone skill and mod now. So please..
Boy what a silly argument
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.21 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: FawKa You just said it yourself. They pay for the ammo - you pay for the drones. And there's a navigation drone skill and mod now. So please..
Boy what a silly argument
Yes, especially since those mods and the skill only boosts MWD velocity, and the problem is they don't MWD!
It's a bug, file a bug report. Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death |
Yslath
Minmatar Space Honkeys The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:00:00 -
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Wasting drones and ammo is not the same thing. If a Raven warps in, fires off a few rounds, and decide he has to jump out, it is definately not the same as a Dominix losing his drones. You don't have 3000 drones in your drone bay like you do with ammo; wasting ammo is just a minor inconveinance, where losing your drones will totaly remove your combat/support ability in most situations.
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:11:00 -
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unfortunately for now it probably only thing keeping domi from using third rack of broken mod in game viably...
Highs: Nos, check Mids: ECM, check Lows: WCS, doh - lost my weapons!
on more serious note though - it is certainly a bug. you should file a report... debating whether or not it SHOULD be so only end up in mean spirited posts... __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now |
Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.08.22 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: FawKa You just said it yourself. They pay for the ammo - you pay for the drones. And there's a navigation drone skill and mod now. So please..
Boy what a silly argument
Yes, especially since those mods and the skill only boosts MWD velocity,
unless it's been just changed, it's not true - skills and mods boost any velocity of the drones. both orbiting and mwding. and you know, I no longer think it's such a bad bug, because it really negatively affects only the situation when they're hitting the stationary target, in which case they might lack tracking with extra orbiting speed. In other cases, like when the heavies are chasing fast cruisers/BSes, more battle speed is better as they have to catch up less...
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Dr Happy
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Posted - 2006.08.22 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: Thud Really,there are some seriuos balancing thingis in eve atm,but drones and droneboats rock,there are lots of things that need mutch more boost than drones.
There is no logic in drones being able to move out to a target faster than they can come back.
It's a bug.
well actuallly. .. .
drone heading toward the target don;t care if they accidently hit the enemy ship becasue then you has a big ass thing damaging the ship. but on the return flight they want to be careful and not risk hiting the ship because soem factor didn;t allwo it to slo down or avoid soon enough. {fix it anyways}
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