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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:54:56 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Well the thing about black holes, their main redeeming quality, is that they're black. And th thing about space is, it's black. Anyone could have made that mistake really. Black holes aren't black. Black is simply the lack of visible light being reflected back to the viewer which means the black object has absorbed all of the light. White light is all visible light (i.e. all colors.) Since the black object has absorbed all of the light, and all light is all colors and all colors together appear as white, then the "black" hole is actually white, but to the viewer it appears as black.
Black is white, and conversely, white is black.
tl;dr - My mother wanted me to be a lawyer.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:57:57 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:It's black and it's a hole. It looks like nothing. Get out of here with that Hollywood claptrap. Mr Epeen Gravitational lensing can be (and has been) observed with both orbital and terrestrial telescopes, as have the emission spectra of black hole accretion disks. So none of the things in that video are actually "claptrap." Just saying. The question wasn't about the effects a black hole has on it's surroundings that allow us to posit it's existence. It was, "What does a black hole look like?". Since the actual black hole is within the Schwarzschild radius, it is literally invisible. Just sayin'. Mr Epeen You're being pedantic. Stop.
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.24 12:18:28 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Seems to me the OP is a bit like saying "if you were really invisible what would you look like" ?
It is kind of a Zen Koan, a bit like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" or "is it possible to have an excruciating pain you cannot feel" . If a tree falls in a forest, and lands on a mime.. does anyone care? i laughed way harder and way longer than i should have at this |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:05:45 -
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Abrazzar wrote:How can you see something that does not reflect light?
i think u see the light being sucked into it |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:16:11 -
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stoicfaux wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Well the thing about black holes, their main redeeming quality, is that they're black. And th thing about space is, it's black. Anyone could have made that mistake really. Black holes aren't black. Black is simply the lack of visible light being reflected back to the viewer which means the black object has absorbed all of the light. White light is all visible light (i.e. all colors.) Since the black object has absorbed all of the light, and all light is all colors and all colors together appear as white, then the "black" hole is actually white, but to the viewer it appears as black. Black is white, and conversely, white is black. tl;dr - My mother wanted me to be a lawyer.
Additionally, a black hole isn't actually a hole, either.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Wendrika Hydreiga
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:24:11 -
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You can't grasp their true form, they are unspeakable!
Like Cthullu. Or Galactus! |
Arronicus
Bitter Lemons Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:39:01 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Let's see, what do they "look" like? Um...the gravitational pull is so strong it even pulls light, right? Sight is reflected light through the lens of an eye, right? No light. No sight.
I wonder why they call them "black" holes....
Next thing you know people will be saying we can fly in outer space. Flying uses an airfoil. No air. No foil. No flight.
Ain't being a human being strange?
Flying by the traditional uses of the word involves the sustained force of lift sufficiently counteracting downward forces like gravity. However, Spaceflight refers to flight in space. It is most certainly not a fantasy word. So yes, there is flying in outerspace. A thrown rock flies through the air, but it has no airfoil. A submarine can fly out of the water, again, without an airfoil. Your definition is far too simplistic, and simply wrong.
As for being strange, I'd have to disagree there, too. Being a human is the only thing I know, the only thing truly familiar to me. The idea of being anything else but human is strange. To be human, is natural.
Oh and as for what does a black hole look like: A void of light. Since we can observe that void with our eyes, we can see it, just like we can see a shadow on the ground. You don't need light to see, you need light to distinguish the indentity and appearance of the object the light is reflecting off of, except in cases where the darkness gives shape and appearance to the object. In this case, a black hole.
Without air, and light, there is flight, and sight. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:24:41 -
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Take a good hard look at goatse that's what it looks like.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:59:24 -
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stoicfaux wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Well the thing about black holes, their main redeeming quality, is that they're black. And th thing about space is, it's black. Anyone could have made that mistake really. Black holes aren't black. Black is simply the lack of visible light being reflected back to the viewer which means the black object has absorbed all of the light. White light is all visible light (i.e. all colors.) Since the black object has absorbed all of the light, and all light is all colors and all colors together appear as white, then the "black" hole is actually white, but to the viewer it appears as black. Black is white, and conversely, white is black. tl;dr - My mother wanted me to be a lawyer. I'll be sure to check zebra crossings for you.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:46:48 -
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I would think the appearance of a black hole would dramatically change relative to your point of observation. The singularity itself can't be viewed directly, as I understand it, because it's folded space itself so hard it's pushing the boundary of a deeeeep gravity well. While not technically dropping out of space time, it may as well have. A viewer from some great distance might see the light from stars being warped and doubled all around the object though. That would be detectible and would probably look very strange. If the black hole is consuming a star or a gas cloud, the accretion disk (outside the schwartzwald radius) would be visible as well. Brilliant, hot rings would be visible, and appear extremely distorted and warped to that far off observer. If you were very near the rings they might just appear comparable to Saturn. Accretion disk aside, someone falling into a black hole might not see anything at all. For that observer, the light is bent around their position in such a way that it appears as though nothing is amiss at all.
...but wtf do I know about black holes. We've yet to directly observe one. They are such weird and poorly understood objects, I'd be very cautious of anyone claiming to know with an absolute degree of confidence wtf they look like.
Maybe they look like EvE wormholes. Maybe they look like Cheerios. Who knows?
I just thought the vid was interesting, as was the explanation about how light and space are being bent outside the event horizon. We have black holes, this was about black holes... thought you guys would dig it.
I am a meat popsicle.-á
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:52:21 -
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I don't know... I've never seen one |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.10.24 18:33:17 -
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One does not simply "see" a black hole...
What you potentially observe is the theoretical 'Hawking radiation' (which is extremely weak and hard to detect) and the accretion disk. There has been experiments to visually observe the Event Horizon, but so far to no avail...
Edit: I should have read all of the thread first... Oh well...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Julius Priscus
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Posted - 2014.10.24 20:30:53 -
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ask any bottled blonde |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.10.24 20:34:49 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:"is it possible to have an excruciating pain you cannot feel" . Well, I found something about that: Acephalgic Migraine
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.24 23:38:26 -
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Moved from General Discussion to Out of Pod Experience.
ISD Decoy
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.29 13:34:34 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Seems to me the OP is a bit like saying "if you were really invisible what would you look like" ?
It is kind of a Zen Koan, a bit like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" or "is it possible to have an excruciating pain you cannot feel" . If a tree falls in a forest, and lands on a mime.. does anyone care?
A mime is a terrible thing to waste.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
"Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied."
EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:24:46 -
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LOL CCP did the effects for wormholes back in 2009. Hollywood is late.
Why Can't I have a picture signature.
Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
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