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SevenSaints AngleSanits
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 07:52:56 -
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The lack of help when loosen a ship to someone dickhead running around ganking people in high sec during a lvl 3 mission . first off how the hell does a stratus with 2 pulse laser 2's do 61k dps in 35 seconds and second how is it the kill mail doesn't show the damage taken to the BC I was flying . It shows the the kill on my egg but not my damage taken on the bc and it doesn't show the kill on battle clinic. Third how does a ship with barely 20k ehp take 51k damge and reps full shields and armor in 35 second has 2x nos going which didn't help him and 2 x web going which I should have been able to jump no matter what with a 5.0 warp stability and maxed skills in nav. Now after checking the builds on battleclinic and doing a copy of what I saw ive come to this . 1 the ship didn't have enough dps to over my nano tank and 2 what ever exploit he is using I am not the only he got .He ganked 3 ships one a T3 ten and t2 sin and a t2 vex I have to call bullshit and ccp you know somethings wrong here but yet again the guy who pays for a sub is assed out for a dev to do jackshit . 3 days waiting for a response from ccp and I get not one email .
So if you don't want help someone who has subbed this game for 6 years I guess ill take my money else where this kind of bullshit is just that 3rd party program or not its plain **** and I am one who is sick of paying out the cash while all the f2p plex players don't have to pay out a ******* dime for this game . Enough is a enough fix the this or deal with another sub gone . |
Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2014.10.24 07:56:11 -
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Played for 6 years, still hasn't learned anything at all. That has to be some kind of achievement. |
SevenSaints AngleSanits
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 07:59:01 -
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Look world another troll back to your cave !
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:01:42 -
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Fortunately every kill you-¦re talking about can be found on zkillboard. I would-¦ve not been able to understand what you wanted to explain from your post here.
That said:
Your Brutix-¦ tank, which has been using a single med ancillary armor repairer that ran out of paste, got broken by a Stratios. That is nothing unnormal, especially as you also had NPCs shooting at you.
His ship used 2 armor reps with faction resist modules which makes a Startios DAMN tanky. You got scrammed and had no stabs fitted so of course you couldn-¦t warp.
Also, you should-¦ve NEVER lost your pod if you would have spammed the warp command when your ship was exploding. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
17210
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:04:40 -
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The first reply is not trolling.
You've had an emotional response to a gank loss and come to the forum to blow steam and complain about CCP.
It's understandable, but also pointless since the harsh aspect of eve is well known.
You emotional post is no better than the first reply. 'Gf' in local and move past it is about the best you can do unless he was using an exploit, which you should then report.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
LAGL 4 LYF
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SevenSaints AngleSanits
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:06:10 -
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first off I didn't run out of paste second it wasn't dual rep tard ass so sick of you asshat ******* troll motherfuckers talking out the side of your ass that bc was 93k ehp moron . so do me favor and stuff it go kill some more people so they can pay for your game that you have put a ******* dime into ever ! and that's my godam point plex should be taking out pony up the godam cash like the rest of or get the **** out the game period end of story or ccp will end up like all the other f2p's broke .
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T0RT0ISE
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:10:16 -
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No, he is right. Your post only serves to show your ignorance of game mechanics.
I could point out the many, MANY, faults in your rant but I don't have time to knock out that many words.
1. You did something stupid to get aggression. 2. You are wrong on just about every point you raise. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1548
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:21:20 -
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Your tears...
Glorious
omg that pod kill |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:23:12 -
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SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:... so sick of you asshat ******* troll motherfuckers talking out the side of your ass... Serious question.
Why even come here and post if that's your opinion of the community.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
LAGL 4 LYF
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:23:39 -
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Taking bets on whether Ezwal will come to lock this thread first or Kane and friends will wardec him after he badmouths them. Put your bets folks! Put your bets folks!
Popcorn only 15 ISK per bag!
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Ormand Yvorme
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:29:35 -
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/41966657/ He lost that stratios.. I'm pretty sure that's dual rep, you idiot. Here are some pictures. His fit - http://i.gyazo.com/dc73326a9a464d89c426529d88806180.png Your fit, with ancillary rep active - http://i.gyazo.com/b554ee238ae7950de463da32fe140a2a.png Your fit, without ancillary rep active - http://i.gyazo.com/5b481f04a3bfe32f0288c21ee185b985.png He could break your tank, even with it active. You couldn't break his for 6m+ (by which time, you were dead). Once he threw his neut and nos on you, you only had 2m39s cap life. The total dps he can do before you can even start breaking his tank is more than your ehp. You lost. What does plex have to do with anything? I haven't sold a single plex yet I could buy his fit 30* over. I've played Eve for less than a year. Ed: My account is paid for with a sub. Only the first month (after trial) was paid for with a plex but I was like "fuckthisgrind, I'm buying a sub" |
Rockstede
30plus Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:32:21 -
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Ib4tl
I'll take 2 bags please, 1 salted 1 toffee. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:35:37 -
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SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:first off I didn't run out of paste second it wasn't dual rep tard ass so sick of you asshat ******* troll motherfuckers talking out the side of your ass that bc was 93k ehp moron . so do me favor and stuff it go kill some more people so they can pay for your game that you have put a ******* dime into ever ! and that's my godam point plex should be taking out pony up the godam cash like the rest of or get the **** out the game period end of story or ccp will end up like all the other f2p's broke .
You DID run out of nanite paste, it can easily be seen on your lossmail.
The Stratios that killed you WAS most likely dualrep tanked, as can be seen on the lossmail of the Stratios. If you check the Stratios pilots killboard you will see he lost it at the same day he killed you.
You had no tackle at all, especially no webifier. The Stratios was able to orbit you close with an afterburner and your railguns were not able to hit him. He had a NOS and neut to shut off your tank and guns, he had 2 cap booster to keep his tank running for a LONG time.
Everyone with a little bit of pvp experience will confirm, you-¦ve not been the victim of an exploit; you have lost a normal pvp fight and that is why CCP is not going to reimburse your ship. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:39:57 -
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I consider myself IB4 Lock!!!!!!!!
Also, Ezwal.......always glad to help.
*edit = Borked quotes, blame the smoke and booze.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
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T0RT0ISE
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:42:33 -
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OK, I had a bit of time but I sincerely hope that I don't just get a barrage of foul hatred in gratitude of this information. I think I know that wish is going to be in vain however here we go...
SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:The lack of help when loosen a ship to someone dickhead running around ganking people in high sec during a lvl 3 mission .
CCP will not help you with this. It is a perfectly normal aspect of Eve Online. Petitioning anything other than a genuine exploit is simply wasting CCP's time.
Furthermore your attitude towards other players stinks. There is no need to be so abusive.
SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:first off how the hell does a stratus with 2 pulse laser 2's do 61k dps in 35 seconds and second how is it the kill mail doesn't show the damage taken to the BC I was flying . It shows the the kill on my egg but not my damage taken on the bc and it doesn't show the kill on battle clinic. It's a Stratios; it also has a drone bay and you may wish to familiarise yourself with it's bonuses. The damage taken IS shown on your lossmail. If you check your combat log that will also provide you with further information. Your EHP might be around 60k but that takes into account reps over time, which are easily overwhelmed, particularly on a single rep fit. The fact you have tech I guns does not give me faith that you have any competently trained tanking skills either.
If it doesn't show the kill on Battleclinic that is because neither yourself or your aggressor have shared API details there. A lot of people use eve-kill or zkillboard instead.
SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:Third how does a ship with barely 20k ehp take 51k damge and reps full shields and armor in 35 second has 2x nos going which didn't help him and 2 x web going which I should have been able to jump no matter what with a 5.0 warp stability and maxed skills in nav. He was dual rep fit and quite possibly had remote shield reps applied. I'm not surprised he could burst tank, what with having a burst tank setup.
I'd posit the nos (only one actually, the other was a neut) helped him just fine.
You had no '5.0 warp stability' and maxed skills in nav are irrelevant. Furthermore webs have nothing to do with warp stability, that would be the role of his warp scrambler.
SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:Now after checking the builds on battleclinic and doing a copy of what I saw ive come to this . 1 the ship didn't have enough dps to over my nano tank and 2 what ever exploit he is using I am not the only he got .He ganked 3 ships one a T3 ten and t2 sin and a t2 vex I have to call bullshit and ccp you know somethings wrong here but yet again the guy who pays for a sub is assed out for a dev to do jackshit . 3 days waiting for a response from ccp and I get not one email . Whatever research you did was obviously done with the level of understanding you have displayed thus far and is therefore spurious at best.
There may be an exploit here but it really does not look like that is the case. There are many idiots in high-sec who are ignorant of facts and get themselves killed every day. I see nothing exceptional on his killboard to suggest anything untoward.
SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote: You do realise that the PLEX has to come from somewhere in the first place? CCP don't just make them out of thin air to give free subs away. Someone had to pay for them in the first place. |
Tajic Kaundur
Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:43:00 -
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SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:which I should have been able to jump no matter what with a 5.0 warp stability and maxed skills in nav. [...] the ship didn't have enough dps to over my nano tank
did you just say you're running level 3 missions in a ship with 5 warp core stabilizers and nanofibres
what. |
T0RT0ISE
Viziam Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:43:19 -
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SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote:first off I didn't run out of paste second it wasn't dual rep tard ass so sick of you asshat ******* troll motherfuckers talking out the side of your ass that bc was 93k ehp moron . I explained above why EHP is irrelevant.
Why judge others when you clearly act in such a hateful manner to other players of this game? There is no need whatsoever for these personal attacks and just make you appear ugly and bitter. It is just a game.
SevenSaints AngleSanits wrote: so do me favor and stuff it go kill some more people so they can pay for your game that you have put a ******* dime into ever ! and that's my godam point plex should be taking out pony up the godam cash like the rest of or get the **** out the game period end of story or ccp will end up like all the other f2p's broke .
Again, those PLEX are paid for by paying customers. If anything CCP is making MORE money from the existence of PLEX as it gives more payment options for players.
Before abusing others and calling names, learn some absolute basics about the game and stop abusing those trying to help who are in-fact, correct where you are very wrong. |
Viktor Fel
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:43:47 -
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Take the experience and learn form it. If you are expecting CCP to do a thing about this you'd be mistaken on many levels. You were bested, period.
#NCDocked
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Ormand Yvorme
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:47:47 -
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Forgot something in my original post, too much effort to edit.. 93k ehp? Your fit (https://zkillboard.com/kill/41959208/) Doesn't even have 49k ehp. Apparently the IGF shows it with reps though, so that may be why. |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:47:47 -
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Ormand Yvorme wrote:https://zkillboard.com/kill/41966657/ He lost that stratios.. I'm pretty sure that's dual rep, you idiot. Here are some pictures. His fit - http://i.gyazo.com/dc73326a9a464d89c426529d88806180.png Your fit, with ancillary rep active - http://i.gyazo.com/b554ee238ae7950de463da32fe140a2a.png Your fit, without ancillary rep active - http://i.gyazo.com/5b481f04a3bfe32f0288c21ee185b985.png He could break your tank, even with it active. You couldn't break his for 6m+ (by which time, you were dead). Once he threw his neut and nos on you, you only had 2m39s cap life. The total dps he can do before you can even start breaking his tank is more than your ehp. You lost. What does plex have to do with anything? I haven't sold a single plex yet I could buy his fit 30* over. I've played Eve for less than a year. Ed: My account is paid for with a sub. Only the first month (after trial) was paid for with a plex but I was like "fuckthisgrind, I'm buying a sub"
This pretty much covers it. You had no warp core stabs, there isn't any skill that works that way. You had no vamps or neuts fitted or webs. If you were using drone versions of them then they did **** all because you need 5 of any one ewar drone to compare to the module version.
The Drake is a Lie
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Tajic Kaundur
Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:51:29 -
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Ormand Yvorme wrote:Forgot something in my original post, too much effort to edit.. 93k ehp? Your fit (https://zkillboard.com/kill/41959208/) Doesn't even have 49k ehp. Apparently the IGF shows it with reps though, so that may be why.
he's forgetting to mention the fact that the pod he lost was a full high-grade slave set
which just makes this even better |
Rockstede
30plus Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:52:56 -
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Also it's worth expanding on the EHP subject.
I recently learned EHP is subjective at best, that Stratios may have had 20k or so EHP but as his tank was repping more than you were able to deal out in DPS his EHP was effectively inifinite.
The math never lies my fiend. |
Gregor Parud
724
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:57:42 -
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So, as I stated in my first post; hasn't learned anything at all. |
Ormand Yvorme
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:58:24 -
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Rockstede wrote:Also it's worth expanding on the EHP subject.
I recently learned EHP is subjective at best, that Stratios may have had 20k or so EHP but as his tank was repping more than you were able to deal out in DPS his EHP was effectively inifinite.
The math never lies my fiend. Yeah, you fiend. I don't understand the EHP is subjective thing. I understood the rest though, the Stratios had a tank that was nearly double the damage that the Brutix could deal and the Brutix didn't have high alpha, so it was irrelevant how much ehp the stratios had. |
Big Lynx
Chaotic Tranquility
699
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:59:03 -
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Kanz aye hazz yoar staffzz?
Edit: Morning coffee + tears = tasty |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:59:35 -
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Oh also, before this gets locked, I'd like to point out that his ganking you is totally normal game play and there is no reason for CCP step in, least of all because of exploits because the others in this thread already debunked all of the exploitive possibilities by showing normal working game play for every point you've made.
And since your knowledge of game mechanics is so poor your also far from qualified to even identify what an exploit would even look like. But if you reeeally wanna be sure you can still put in a support ticket for CCP to take a look into it. The forums are not the place for this sort of thing nor do CCP monitor every kill day and night for this sort of thing.
Exploits are called exploits because they're abusing a bug. And CCP would never allow a bug that was so game breaking to go in willingly if they knew about it.
I'm saying this because you seem to be the type of fellow that expects CCP knows about every exploit the moment it happens and are just ignoring this to **** people like you off...
The Drake is a Lie
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5787
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Posted - 2014.10.24 09:01:48 -
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To OP: a special message from CCP Starbuck.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
18785
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Posted - 2014.10.24 09:03:08 -
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buttered popcorn for me please
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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Ormand Yvorme
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.24 09:04:11 -
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Xercodo wrote:Exploits are called exploits because they're abusing a bug. And CCP would never knowingly allow a bug that game breaking to go in willingly if they knew about it. *coughcoughbandofbrothershangartransportbugcoughcough* I do agree with the rest of your statement though. Has anyone covered how he was attacked without concord? I gotta re read the thread.. |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
3812
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Posted - 2014.10.24 09:04:32 -
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Oh man I need to save that for later
The Drake is a Lie
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