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Angeal MacNova
LankTech
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Posted - 2014.10.24 14:34:45 -
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I believe there is a role in hi-sec not being filled by a ship.
An effective way of taking out a POS. The Marauder is the closest thing there is.
In light of up coming changes and the comment made by CCP, the possibility of capitals in hi-sec is being considered. This would fill that role.
But just in case that such a change doesn't happen, then I propose the following...
As it stands, there are BC's which get the ability to equip weapons meant for BS's. I propose BS's (one for each faction of course) which get the ability to equip weapons meant for capitals.
That's it. Simple, elegant, effective. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6060
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Posted - 2014.10.24 14:40:05 -
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what's wrong with vindis?
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
61
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Posted - 2014.10.24 14:52:04 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote: I propose BS's (one for each faction of course) which get the ability to equip weapons meant for capitals. That's it. Simple, elegant, effective.
NO! Just no, lets move on. |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
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Posted - 2014.10.24 14:58:07 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis?
You'd be better off using a Kronos.
Even then, it doesn't hold a flame to the Dreadnaughts, Carriers, and Titans that can exist in Null and Low. Capitals can even be in WH space (even if it means you have to build it there).
Simply lacks the DPS. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:05:34 -
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No. The real problem is that offline POSes can't simply be looted. If the shield is down, power is offline, why can't we just scoop/loot them? That would solve the problem of too many offline POSes cluttering up systems.
Now if you are talking about online POSes, they should not be easier to take out. |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
836
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:06:29 -
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CCP have announced that they're going to be introducing "glass cannon" weapons which will greatly increase your dps in exchange for a reduction of your resists to 0%.
This, combined with the high DPS ships such as the Vindicator will allow for effective high sec POS removal, I suspect.
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
61
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:08:07 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis? You'd be better off using a Kronos. Even then, it doesn't hold a flame to the Dreadnaughts, Carriers, and Titans that can exist in Null and Low. Capitals can even be in WH space (even if it means you have to build it there). Simply lacks the DPS.
Carriers do less DPS to POS's than ravens. Titans are not the most useful thing to use to kill a POS as a dread can do the job much better so no one really does it. Dreads do good DPS but they have massive disadvantages compared to just using BS's
if you want to kill POS's in high sec then you have to live with the disadvantages of your actions.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6065
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:39:31 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis? You'd be better off using a Kronos. . go fit a vindi and a kronos for max dps on eft and say that again
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and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1336
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:54:55 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:
That's it. Simple, elegant, effective.
Getting friends to help in your bash is not simple enough? |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:42:09 -
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You're right about the problem and hopefully when POS get magiced highsec will be considered. That being said this is the sort of ill-conceived, band-aid crap they've seemingly been trying to move away from.
Please don't go giving them any ideas.
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
133
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:44:02 -
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Tchulen wrote:CCP have announced that they're going to be introducing "glass cannon" weapons which will greatly increase your dps in exchange for a reduction of your resists to 0%.
This, combined with the high DPS ships such as the Vindicator will allow for effective high sec POS removal, I suspect.
They're already out on SISI. They're pretty underwhelming at present, but at least CCP have indicated that they're making considerations for improving them.
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James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:47:11 -
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There are vindis, AFK-stable oracles, etc. There is no need for more unless you are trying to drop multiple online POS, in which case, bring numbers sufficient to do it in the time available.
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Behr Oroo
The Circus Corp Alternate Allegiance
92
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:51:37 -
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Like I said in another post. Why are towers special snowflake that cant be scooped? We can fly faster than light, cloak our ships, jump instantly across lightyears.... but we cant figure out how to scoop an offline pos without destroying it, if it doesnt have our name on it? |
Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
341
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:55:11 -
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James Baboli wrote:AFK-stable oracles
This. Nothing says taking down an offline POS from an inactive corp by wardeccing the corp, grabbing an Oracle, press F1, and goto work. You will either come back to the game in a station, or to an empty moon.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1831
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:55:36 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis?
Did you ever tried to kill a POS in high sec? They are always fitted with a trillion ECM and battleships are unable to fire more than once every 5 minutes.
That is why I asked already when bastion was introduced, to make it scriptable. With an offensive script that doubles the DPS, cuttign the tracking to 1/5th and reducing defenses. That would make a great ship to kill high sec POSs.
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:56:26 -
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Tchulen wrote:CCP have announced that they're going to be introducing "glass cannon" weapons which will greatly increase your dps in exchange for a reduction of your resists to 0%.
This, combined with the high DPS ships such as the Vindicator will allow for effective high sec POS removal, I suspect.
did you even check the stats of those weaposn in sis? ZERO% on your own resists half the range for 12% more DPS.. ooo greatly increase.. LOL.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:11:43 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis? Did you ever tried to kill a POS in high sec? They are always fitted with a trillion ECM and battleships are unable to fire more than once every 5 minutes. That is why I asked already when bastion was introduced, to make it scriptable. With an offensive script that doubles the DPS, cuttign the tracking to 1/5th and reducing defenses. That would make a great ship to kill high sec POSs.
You get jammed by offline POS now? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
3007
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:16:21 -
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Posting in a stealth "make suicide ganks unstoppable" thread. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:17:18 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis? Did you ever tried to kill a POS in high sec? They are always fitted with a trillion ECM and battleships are unable to fire more than once every 5 minutes. That is why I asked already when bastion was introduced, to make it scriptable. With an offensive script that doubles the DPS, cuttign the tracking to 1/5th and reducing defenses. That would make a great ship to kill high sec POSs. You get jammed by offline POS now?
forget the offlien POS. peopel only care for the offline ones because the online ones are UNKILLABLE, exaclty because of ECM. That is the role that is needed. Not a kill offline POS
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:19:45 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote: forget the offlien POS. peopel only care for the offline ones because the online ones are UNKILLABLE, exaclty because of ECM. That is the role that is needed. Not a kill offline POS
Because there's not a BS that can go into highsec and do dps and cannot be ECMed.. nope cannot think of one. |
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Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
341
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:25:03 -
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Tappits wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote: forget the offlien POS. peopel only care for the offline ones because the online ones are UNKILLABLE, exaclty because of ECM. That is the role that is needed. Not a kill offline POS
Because there's not a BS that can go into highsec and do dps and cannot be ECMed.. nope cannot think of one.
Nothing can stop my glorious ECM boats in highsec. All will suffer while they find their clients suddenly not able to lock anything. All will perish as they watch their ship slowly strip away to their POD. LONG LIVE THE UNSTOPPABLE ECM!!!
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1336
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:46:06 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis? Did you ever tried to kill a POS in high sec? They are always fitted with a trillion ECM and battleships are unable to fire more than once every 5 minutes. That is why I asked already when bastion was introduced, to make it scriptable. With an offensive script that doubles the DPS, cuttign the tracking to 1/5th and reducing defenses. That would make a great ship to kill high sec POSs. You get jammed by offline POS now? forget the offlien POS. peopel only care for the offline ones because the online ones are UNKILLABLE, exaclty because of ECM. That is the role that is needed. Not a kill offline POS
If you get a ECM stacked POS, you could always use sentries... |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
237
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:53:23 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Posting in a stealth "make suicide ganks unstoppable" thread.
LOL, you should check out my post history...
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Khiluale Zotakibe
Thermal Collision Consortium
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Posted - 2014.10.24 18:36:32 -
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Behr Oroo wrote:Like I said in another post. Why are towers special snowflake that cant be scooped? We can fly faster than light, cloak our ships, jump instantly across lightyears.... but we cant figure out how to scoop an offline pos without destroying it, if it doesnt have our name on it?
They are not a special snowflake, any proprietary structure that is anchored in space can't just be looted (think mobile depots, mobile tractor units, secure containers, just to name a few).
The exception to the rule are POS arrays as those are linked with the tower and if the tower is no more they are no longer really anchored. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
137
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Posted - 2014.10.24 18:42:45 -
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I'd say 1000 dps Oracle's do the job just fine. |
FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2014.10.25 14:58:18 -
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I broke Big posses in a fleet of 10 sentry geddons with the full rack of guns and such online... Took a few hours but i dont see why it wouldnt work in highsec as well as it did during out last c4 eviction of the natives... |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
237
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:07:58 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:
That's it. Simple, elegant, effective.
Getting friends to help in your bash is not simple enough?
You be surprised how fast people scatter when you mention POS bashing. Simply because it is a long, boring, and tedious process. There are so many dead corps with POS towers (some still have modules) up. So many dead towers taking up moons that could be used by active corps. Why so many? Because even off line, they have so many HP that it can take hours, even in a BS fleet fitted for max dps.
I couldn't even imagine trying to take out an active one. Not without a capital.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6118
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:37:02 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:what's wrong with vindis? Did you ever tried to kill a POS in high sec? They are always fitted with a trillion ECM and battleships are unable to fire more than once every 5 minutes. That is why I asked already when bastion was introduced, to make it scriptable. With an offensive script that doubles the DPS, cuttign the tracking to 1/5th and reducing defenses. That would make a great ship to kill high sec POSs. yes i have and no one got ecm'd, we were rather hoping for a fight
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2493
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:39:26 -
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If it is simply a means of getting rid of high sec POSes then they should act the same as mobile deployables.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:41:37 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
If you get a ECM stacked POS, you could always use sentries...
The idea is BEIGN efficient. Ever tried to calculate how long it takes to take out a LARGE pos with sentries alone? TRIED at least once?
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