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Anabella Rella
Gradient
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Posted - 2014.10.25 20:04:03 -
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Kim-baka you are in no position to be lecturing anyone about honor and courage. If anything we should all be demanding satisfaction for the time you've caused us to waste by reading your foolishness.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising
54
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Posted - 2014.10.25 20:15:50 -
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So, seeing as it doesn't appear to be any sort of honor duel anymore, will there possibly be a holo? I will admit I'd love to see it if so... |
Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
15
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Posted - 2014.10.25 22:15:29 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:So, seeing as it doesn't appear to be any sort of honor duel anymore, will there possibly be a holo? I will admit I'd love to see it if so... Nah, she said she will provide the holovid only to a contesting party.
Note to self: contest results if they will fight out of capsule. |
Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising
55
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Posted - 2014.10.25 22:22:33 -
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No kidding right? All I can say is I've heard things about Kim's abilities, I'm just curious to actually see them in action. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy Imperial Outlaws.
662
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Posted - 2014.10.26 08:31:39 -
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Maybe instead of challenging someone to a fight every time they say something you disagree with, you could use those Caldari lips and tongue God bestowed upon you to convince people why you're right? I've never believed in that "might is right" notion and I don't see it being much of a popular belief among Caldari. Perhaps you could refrain from being so violent and aggressive and instead use logic to fight your battles, rather than escalating beyond the points of contention to one of competition?
-Eran |
Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
392
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Posted - 2014.10.26 11:33:44 -
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So, make sure I understand... Diana is angry because someone is derailing her thread?
How delicious.
GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
3319
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Posted - 2014.10.26 16:11:59 -
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Diana Kim, you can't even kill yourself properly to save your own honor.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 19:50:40 -
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Desiderya wrote:Seconded, Deacon.
Also Kim, join a real corporation and stop hiding behind someone's skirts while talking about 'honour'. Indeed, as today conversation in the neocom version of this media has shown, that my corporation indeed might be not real, since it doesn't have shares, and i was named to be a "shell" of Caldari Navy, that it is more a government office than a corporation.
But as a soldier of the State, I prefer to serve the State as a whole, serve all Caldari people, and not just one person (the CEO). Thus I will prefer this "not real" corporation, where I can do my duty and dedicate myself to the State.
As for "hiding behind someone's skirt" I believe your perception and your eyes have failed you. As you can see from reading this conversation, it wasn't me, who was hiding, but rather this Makoto Priano. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:01:09 -
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Steffanie Saissore wrote:I find this most amusing...as I have put forth more than one challenge to Kim in the past and she has refused. If my memory doesn't fail me, you were suggesting public fights, and I have told here and earlier, that I don't fight for entertainment.
However, this isn't the strict rule, and exact reason why I wouldn't accept fight with you will be explained below.
You are not a Caldari. Demanding honor from jaijii would be incorrect, as jaijii don't follow our traditions. Moreover, you are a gallentean. Last time (a month or two ago) I already did a mistake and accepted gallentean challenge to fight 1v1 on a battlecruisers. In fact, I was in a worse condition, as I was fighting in a drake against a myrmidon. Add to this that Navy were attacking me as well. I have agreed for this, but my mistake wasn't that I agreed to these conditions, but that I agreed to do a duel with a gallentean: as the moment later the fight has started about 10 more gallentean ships warped right on top of me.
I am always telling: never trust a gallentean. I have violated this own rule I was talking about, and I have paid for it.
Moreover, as you are well known for your public lies about me, the reason to not trust you raises exponentially.
Never trust a gallentean. Never trust a liar. And you are both of them in one flask. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:05:01 -
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Karynn Denton wrote: Aww, what?
You issue the challenge in a public forum, but want the fight in private? C'mon, that doesn't add up!
Anyway - Priano, you're gonna need all the help you can get. You name it, I got it... Blue, Exile, Crash... just call me.
As the insult and lies were made in public, the challenge was put in public as well. There were nothing said that the fight would or should be public.
And if you wish to help Priano, I'd suggest offering her instead of these drugs some Kresh. But even this now won't clean her name. |
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:09:03 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Kim-baka you are in no position to be lecturing anyone about honor and courage. If anything we should all be demanding satisfaction for the time you've caused us to waste by reading your foolishness. You wouldn't be such stupidly insolent, if you were facing me, trying to said this, minmatar. It is easy to spit bile and insults, sitting behind the neocom screen. I would like to see though how you will sing, when I will get your warp engine scrambled. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:10:18 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:No kidding right? All I can say is I've heard things about Kim's abilities, I'm just curious to actually see them in action. My abilities, Ms. Vess, are for serving the State, and not to be shown for entertainment. |
Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising
55
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:15:56 -
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What's wrong with wanting to see the abilities of those notable figures who were once (when I served in the minmatar militia), and may become again, my enemy? research is research after all, whether or not I find enjoyment in it is another thing... |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:18:58 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Maybe instead of challenging someone to a fight every time they say something you disagree with, you could use those Caldari lips and tongue God bestowed upon you to convince people why you're right? I've never believed in that "might is right" notion and I don't see it being much of a popular belief among Caldari. Perhaps you could refrain from being so violent and aggressive and instead use logic to fight your battles, rather than escalating beyond the points of contention to one of competition?
-Eran Mr. Mintor, I don't challenge peoples if they disagree with me. Counterwise, I can talk with them civilized, provided they intend for civilized talk.
Spreading lies about me and insulting me isn't a thing I "disagree" with, though. As they contain zero to none ideas except the bile of the speaker.
I will gladly use logic and words to fight those, who are able to read things, that I write. However, if they simple ignore it and talk about me from their fantasy, that contradicts everything I said and done, I really doubt that saying a couple of more words in their direction will change anything. Of course, a couple of words must be said, just to give readers chance to understand that what they are saying might not be true. Then let readers think and find out themselves, what actually is happening.
But to deal with the source simple words are not enough. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1357
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:27:15 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Diana Kim, you can't even kill yourself properly to save your own honor. If I would ever do something wrong, that would stain my honor, I will do what I will have to, as Caldari. You see, you simply don't know, what I can and what I can't do, and yet you come here with such ridiculous attack.
We have a good saying for this:
Wise human will speak what he knows. Smart human will ask what he doesn't know. Stupid human will speak what he doesn't know. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1358
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:29:53 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:What's wrong with wanting to see the abilities of those notable figures who were once (when I served in the minmatar militia), and may become again, my enemy? research is research after all, whether or not I find enjoyment in it is another thing... First, Ms. Vess, I am just a Caldari soldier, not a "notable figure" And second, since you may become my (I mean the enemy of the State, not personal, of course) enemy, showing you my abilities is neither in my interests, nor in the interests of the State. |
Steffanie Saissore
Stormcrows
396
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:39:05 -
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Diana Kim wrote: Stupid human will speak what he doesn't know.
So very telling
Steffanie Saissore,
Knight
Stormcrows
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Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising
55
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:52:19 -
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well, some soldiers are shining examples of what force they serve, those will generally see respect from opposing forces or in my case a ground to see where my potential enemies abilities lie. Really if I wanted to attack you, I've been in tribute the last few months, I could have found you fairly easily. I'm looking at it from the prospective that if I even go back, more than likely I'd never see you, thus where's the worry? I can understand your reasoning however and respect your decision. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1358
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:59:21 -
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Steffanie Saissore wrote:Diana Kim wrote: Stupid human will speak what he doesn't know.
So very telling Indeed, very fits, if we remember how you were telling that I was flying a Dominix in Haatomo. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1358
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:00:31 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:well, some soldiers are shining examples of what force they serve, those will generally see respect from opposing forces or in my case a ground to see where my potential enemies abilities lie. Really if I wanted to attack you, I've been in tribute the last few months, I could have found you fairly easily. I'm looking at it from the prospective that if I even go back, more than likely I'd never see you, thus where's the worry? I can understand your reasoning however and respect your decision. Thank you, Ms. Vess. |
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
631
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:15:39 -
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I suggest fighting the duel in passive shield tanked industrial ships.
It will be glorious. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1358
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:26:03 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:I suggest fighting the duel in passive shield tanked industrial ships.
It will be glorious. I am sorry to disappoint you, Dr. Valate, but Makoto Priano has already cowardly retreated, choosing to save her life and to live in dishonor. |
Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
294
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:58:07 -
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Three pages of words and no action?
Maybe I should just develop a booster that enhances typing... I'd make a ****ing fortune.
Karynn Denton
Caravan Master
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Havohej
54
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:08:26 -
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Karynn Denton wrote:Three pages of words and no action?
Maybe I should just develop a booster that enhances typing... I'd make a ****ing fortune. I could've used one of those in that other topic.
Strike us like matches, 'cause everyone deserves the flames.
OOC Forums @ Backstage
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iyammarrok
Disconnected.
190
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:09:12 -
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Ok Diana. 2 quick questions
1) Who is/are the rightful ruler(s) of the Caldari State? 2) What do you intend to do with the Federation?
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Sarz'namarr
6
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:19:29 -
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Havohej wrote:Karynn Denton wrote:Three pages of words and no action?
Maybe I should just develop a booster that enhances typing... I'd make a ****ing fortune. I could've used one of those in that other topic.
I find coffee does the trick.
(Are we doing this derailing thing right?) |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1359
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Posted - 2014.10.27 06:34:23 -
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Karynn Denton wrote:Three pages of words and no action?
Maybe I should just develop a booster that enhances typing... I'd make a ****ing fortune. I am sorry to disappoint you, Ms. Denton. I did what I could. Unfortunately, in this media most of peoples can just flap their tongues, but when it comes to action, they just run away and hide, unable even to stand for their own words. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1359
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Posted - 2014.10.27 06:48:15 -
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iyammarrok wrote:Ok Diana. 2 quick questions
1) Who is/are the rightful ruler(s) of the Caldari State? 2) What do you intend to do with the Federation? I am not sure how this even related to the topic. But okay, I will educate this jaijii a bit.
1) The Megacorporations are. There is no single ruler in the Caldari State, as in your jaijii governments. Each corporation acts as a government for their citizens. Foreign policies are worked through CEP, and disputes between Megacorporations are solved in CBT. Both CEP and CBT, and even the Navy are owned by Megacorporations and serve them.
2) The Federation must be destroyed. The nations, that are under gallentean oppression (Jin-Mei, Intaki, Mannar and many others) should establish their own governments according to their traditions, practical needs or efficiency, that would stimulate their own growth. Gallenteans must be banished back to their own worlds and quaranteened there to not infect other nations with their genome and disruptive ideas. Space access to gallenteans must be forbidden.
For the next time I recommend you starting a new discussion, if you want to ask unrelated questions. It isn't difficult to read the subject of this conversation. Don't be silly like that (if this is even possible for jaijii). |
Anslo
Scope Works
19799
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Posted - 2014.10.27 11:28:15 -
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Says the person infamous for derailing other topics.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2014.10.27 11:34:10 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
1) The Megacorporations are. There is no single ruler in the Caldari State, as in your jaijii governments. Each corporation acts as a government for their citizens. Foreign policies are worked through CEP, and disputes between Megacorporations are solved in CBT. Both CEP and CBT, and even the Navy are owned by Megacorporations and serve them.
2) The Federation must be destroyed. The nations, that are under gallentean oppression (Jin-Mei, Intaki, Mannar and many others) should establish their own governments according to their traditions, practical needs or efficiency, that would stimulate their own growth. Gallenteans must be banished back to their own worlds and quaranteened there to not infect other nations with their genome and disruptive ideas. Space access to gallenteans must be forbidden.
I understand this was not the original purpose of your thread, but as you've now answered the questions in this thread, you've invited discussion on these points in this thread. I've been avoiding entering this discussion at all, but unfortunately this latest post compels some response.
To your first point, I would emphasize that the Federation does not have a single leader either. It has a president, but the president does not have absolute authority in the government, he is the head of a single branch of the government and his power is held in check by various governmental bodies, such as the Senate.
To your second point, you are taking it upon yourself to speak on behalf of the Jin-Mei, the Intaki, the Mannar "and many others" by insisting they are under Gallentean oppression. You are in no place to do so. If these people feel they are under oppression, they can voice it for themselves. By insisting they are under oppression and need to be "liberated" (yes, that's what you're suggesting), you are inciting the same actions that you openly criticize the Gallente for.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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