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Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:32:13 -
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Hey guys
Just making a post to let everyone know not to offer Merc contracts to the Alliance: Vanguard.
I made a post in here a few weeks ago offering a contract to kill a medium POS in low sec. I got a mail from Wingmate, a director in Raven's Flight, saying they could take it. We agree on terms and I sent the initial payment then Wingmate blocks me and I never hear anything again.
Thought I would share so no one else would get caught by these scammers.
Thanks! |
Expron
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:39:39 -
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if you did not speak directly to an alliance diplomate, you deserve to be scammed homie |
Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:41:59 -
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Wingmate is both a Director and Diplomat. |
Wingmate
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:42:26 -
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i have no idea what this person is talking about, but thanks for the post!
edit: i am a corp diplomat, not an alliance one. i'm also a corp director, not an alliance one.
i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
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Expron
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:49:22 -
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Lor Tann wrote:Wingmate is both a Director and Diplomat.
not a listed alliance diplo, so it is your fault still, that's how diplomacy works |
Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:51:57 -
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Corp Info showing him listed as Diplomat
Our correspondence invalidating his claims of not knowing me
I'm not saying it is not my fault, I am calling the alliance out for being scammers. To info everyone else to be wary of them. |
Phoebe Chevalier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:17:29 -
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Corp Info showing him listed as Diplomat totally means he is not being an alliance diplomat, since alliance info doesn't list him being alliance diplomat.
So, in my restricted mind and being someone who has a quite restricted mind: if someone offers someone else he might take down a POS with his buddies and not talking about "Me and Vanguard." or "Me and RAFL" or "Me and my alliance" or "Me and my Corp" still means he and his buddies, which aren't exactly defined as his corp or alliance.
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Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:33:34 -
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Him being a scammer is a reflection of him being diplomat of corp and/or alliance. Even if he was only going to do it with his buddies he is still an appointed diplomat for his Corp, which in turn is representing the alliance. Now if they were to kick him from the corp or kick the corp from the alliance then I would just assume that he and only he is a scammer. As it stands they are all lumped in together as scammers. Arguing that he wasn't an alliance diplomat is semantics, corps go on "corp only" ops all the time. I understood the risks of sending a guy 500M isk upfront that is why we split the total payment up into milestones. The ONLY reason this is getting posted is to help fellow capsuleers understand what they are getting into and try and safeguard their assets when dealing with Vanguard., Raven's Flight, and Wingmate. |
Formerly Known As AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:52:57 -
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For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Code Agent AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
617
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:52:57 -
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For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Formerly Known AsAC
The Conference Elite CODE.
620
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:52:57 -
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For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:54:57 -
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Formerly Known AsAC wrote:For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this.
How about 150 up front and 150 when the care is done? |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Conference Elite CODE.
1097
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:31:25 -
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So, someone involved in white collar crime is accusing someone else of being a scammer? Interesting...
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Wingmate
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
263
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:47:18 -
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i'm missing something here. where did i say anything about my alliance doing anything?
additionally, when did i say when i'd do it?
i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
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Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:36:34 -
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Wingmate wrote:i'm missing something here. where did i say anything about my alliance doing anything?
additionally, when did i say when i'd do it?
I'm just going to go out on a limb and say you were never going to do it because:
1. You never returned my mails or convo invites. 2. You blocked me prior to this thread ever being made. 3. You replied to this thread saying that you never heard of me after we swapped mails multiple times while negotiating terms.
I never said I expected your alliance to plan an op around this. I included Vanguard. in the post because well...you are in Vanguard. |
Wingmate
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
263
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:44:51 -
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i didn't say i'd never heard of you. i said i didn't know what you were talking about. i've never known vanguard. to scam people.
i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
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Code Agent AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
617
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:49:51 -
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Lor Tann wrote:Formerly Known AsAC wrote:For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this. How about 150 up front and 150 when the care is done?
Deal.
I shall commence the caring once the first deposit has been made.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Formerly Known As AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:49:51 -
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Lor Tann wrote:Formerly Known AsAC wrote:For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this. How about 150 up front and 150 when the care is done?
Deal.
I shall commence the caring once the first deposit has been made.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Formerly Known AsAC
The Conference Elite CODE.
620
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Posted - 2014.10.27 02:49:51 -
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Lor Tann wrote:Formerly Known AsAC wrote:For a 250 million ISK donation not only will I pretend to care, but I will also pretend to look into this. How about 150 up front and 150 when the care is done?
Deal.
I shall commence the caring once the first deposit has been made.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.27 03:21:49 -
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Well, refund my isk or complete the contract. |
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Crystalline Entity
Outdated Host Productions Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2014.10.27 13:11:59 -
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Are these actual tears, in C&P?
That takes me back... kleptomaniacs anybody? :) |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
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Posted - 2014.10.27 13:21:52 -
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Does it matter if he is an alliance diplomat or not?
Corp director/diplomat in Vanguard scammed someone... all anyone should need to hear to not use these guys.
Not today spaghetti.
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Wingmate
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
263
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:13:27 -
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since we're not a merc alliance, i'd be surprised if anyone *asked* to use them.
i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE FEARLESS.
3777
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:20:05 -
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OP looks like an Acorn.
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Lor Tann
Veldspar Mafia
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:22:19 -
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Lady Spank wrote:OP looks like an Acorn.
My entry into "Eve's ugliest toon" contest!
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1308
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:32:15 -
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I would war dec them
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Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
920
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Posted - 2014.10.27 18:52:40 -
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Sounds like a wardec!!!! |
Wingmate
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
263
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Posted - 2014.10.27 19:16:35 -
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if 500m was truly enough to elicit a wardec, then at least i'll have some damned content for once.
i live in nullsec. you're welcome to come out and shoot me if you want. no one i know will complain.
i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
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