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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:29:12 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.
The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving. This will only become more important after moving becomes much more...
fatiguing
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
759
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Posted - 2014.10.27 19:10:25 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: What is this, 2009 (prior to the fighter nerf)?
Someone hasn't been to null lately, using assigned fighters sucks compared to having the carrier on grid where the fighters actually get bonuses from the carrier (unless you use a ship with mutiple target painters, but the you still have the tracking issues and the fighters need to move and orbit). Unbonused fighters (which is what assigned fighters are) suck against anything that isn't a battleship. If you are ratting in a BS, regular heavy drones (or mixed Gecko flights, in angel space 2 geckos, 2 Valkyries and a warrior is magic) are much much better.
no ist 2014 post-buff fighters, which will even face**** small stuff once tackled without putting the capital at any real risk if careful.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8760
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Posted - 2014.10.27 20:02:22 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: What is this, 2009 (prior to the fighter nerf)?
Someone hasn't been to null lately, using assigned fighters sucks compared to having the carrier on grid where the fighters actually get bonuses from the carrier (unless you use a ship with mutiple target painters, but the you still have the tracking issues and the fighters need to move and orbit). Unbonused fighters (which is what assigned fighters are) suck against anything that isn't a battleship. If you are ratting in a BS, regular heavy drones (or mixed Gecko flights, in angel space 2 geckos, 2 Valkyries and a warrior is magic) are much much better.
no ist 2014 post-buff fighters, which will even face**** small stuff once tackled without putting the capital at any real risk if careful.
Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier pilot drone skills still don't matter to off grid assigned fighters) and assigned fighters don't get buffs from drone mods on an off grid carrier. With their base damage reduced (to compensate for the fact that they now use the pilots drones skilsl while on grid), pre '2014" fighters (which sucked) were better for ratting.
You can test this yourself (we i did, extensively), take any BS that has 125 bandwidth (or even 100, in the case of the machariel, even less with the rattlesnake), use it with 5 heavy drones, then 2 geckos, 2 medium and 1 light and then try the same thing with assigned fighters. Even against webbed targets (webs from a Vindicator) the fighters come in dead last in terms of isk/hr.
Tested over several days post patch with Vindicator, Machariel and (for kicks) a Rattlesnake (a single gecko from a rattlesnake puts fighters to shame isk wise). That's what you don't see a whole bunch of assigned fighters, if a person can dual box and has a carrier, he's much better off being on grid manually directing them (or going with 7 geckos + 2 mediums and a light and then assigning them to assist the shooter ship, or guard if the shooter ship is using EWAR).
Like i said, you must be talking about 2009, assigning fighters nowadays is the least efficient thing you can do now
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4741
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Posted - 2014.10.27 20:16:42 -
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Jeremy Allign wrote:That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures!
Now, that is what I call Karma.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1166
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:46:03 -
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Actually you could probably use one on autopilot to move random cr@p around hisec.
People would probably think it was a bait ship and leave it alone. |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
243
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Posted - 2014.10.27 23:52:27 -
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The reason for a solo pilot to use a carrier... is to carry things for you when you get bored of a particular region and feel like seeing if the grass is less blobier over there |
Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.10.28 09:19:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier ....
holy sh**, even if you're right about fighter bonuses, assign your fighters to kiting interceptor and you will be killing stuff with almost absolute safety you wouldnt be killing otherwise. seen people doing that, a viable tactic for risk averse pvp. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8767
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Posted - 2014.10.28 12:09:11 -
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Mark Hadden wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier ....
holy ****, even if you're right about fighter bonuses, assign your fighters to kiting interceptor and you will be killing stuff with almost absolute safety you wouldnt be killing otherwise. seen people doing that, a viable tactic for risk averse pvp.
Talkin about shooting fake space pirates for isk here. Damn pvp (in a damn pvp game) always intruding on a brother trying to get that isk.
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Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.10.28 13:02:17 -
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wat? |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2508
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:45:14 -
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Solo carriers can be a big part of a major part of Eve design, "isk sink". |
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ugh zug
100
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:20:31 -
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carriers were great in moving your ships to new homes, now with the jump nerf not so much; you could rat with it but if you plan on that please let us know what system you're in.
Want me to shut up?
Remove content from my post, 15 bil.
Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil.
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Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:38:27 -
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ugh zug wrote:carriers were great in moving your ships to new homes, now with the jump nerf not so much; you could rat with it but if you plan on that please let us know what system you're in.
you dont need to ask in forum, go check deklein and branch you will find bunch of ratting carriers there, like in any other god forsaken backwater space in eve. |
Desimus Maximus
Embargo.
124
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Posted - 2014.10.29 08:48:44 -
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Thanks to CFC/PL/N3 the only real use for a solo carrier pilot is to pay taxes to your corporation that is the slave to the renter alliance.
Blap blap those rats and fill those corp coffers b!tch! |
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