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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:09:12 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/scc-set-to-increase-prices-on-sleeper-salvage/
If they actually mean salvage...interesting
EDIT: wording in the article is components. So perhaps just the blue loot |
Saera Ezliha
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:26:31 -
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The bigger question is if blue loot can now be reverse engineered / invented upon |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:37:39 -
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SCC != SSC
Maybe update the title for disambiguation?
I was like "Why does Sleeper Social Club want blue lootz?"
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:46:55 -
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This has made my stockpile very happy
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:49:06 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:SCC != SSC
Maybe update the title for disambiguation?
I was like "Why does Sleeper Social Club want blue lootz?"
Heh. Some kind of Freudian slip I'm sure |
Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:49:45 -
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Increasing blue loot value in WH
Interesting... |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.29 15:55:39 -
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Let the .01 ISK war begin \o/
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:06:37 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5161211
"This means that as of Phoebe on November 4th, NPC buy orders for Neural Network Analyzers will pay out 200,000 isk and Sleeper Data Libraries will be purchased for 500,000 isk. This should provide a very significant effect on income in the lower class wormholes without having a very large percentage increase in the income of higher class wormholes."
Neurals are 50k right now. Sleeper Data Libraries are 200k
If these stats are still right from previous forum posts, the current drop rates/values are
Small basic frigates (Emergent Patrollers, Watchmen, Escorts) will drop 2 neural network analyzers = 100k Medium basic cruisers (Awakened Patrollers, Watchmen, Escorts) will drop 2 sleeper data libraries = 400k Large basic battleships (Sleepless Patrollers, Watchmen, and Escorts) drop 7 sleeper data libraries + 2 neural network analyzers = 1.5m The Sleepless Outguard drops 1 Anc. coord database, 2 sleeper data libraries, and 2 neural network analyzers = 2m Small intermediate frigates (specifically Emergent Defender, Emergent Upholder) drop 2 neural network analyzers and 2 sleeper data libraries = 500k Medium intermediate cruisers (Awakened Defenders and Upholders) drop 1 Anc. coord database, 2 sleeper data libraries, 2 neural network analyzers = 2m
That would mean for a sample C1 site like the perimeter camp:
Current drop value: 3M New drop value: 9.6M
Quick math but I think that's right |
Paul Vashar
Periphery Bound Dominatus Atrum Mortis
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:36:10 -
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Obil Que wrote:Quick math but I think that's right I'm just going to blindly accept that it is. |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
99
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:36:54 -
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Obil Que wrote:Quick math but I think that's right
Damn, and suddenly as of Nov. 4th low-class wormholes become that much better of an idea for fledgling wormholers.
VERY interesting development. Doesn't change conflict generation, but should help with population/activity levels.
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:30:01 -
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Obil Que wrote: Current drop value: 3M New drop value: 9.6M
That's a 2 MNR difference atm.
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Alundil
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:49:40 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:SCC != SSC
Maybe update the title for disambiguation?
I was like "Why does Sleeper Social Club want blue lootz?" 8\
Cancelling contract naow
j/k.......
Contact is still up
I'm right behind you
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Kirasten
No Vacancies
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:50:15 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote: ... but should help with population/activity levels.
Finally something we have been asking for. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:54:33 -
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Potentially makes a c4 a greater cash cow (as well as c3 through c1)
Interesting development.
Yaay!!!!
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Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:58:53 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Potentially makes a c4 a greater cash cow (as well as c3 through c1)
Interesting development.
To my knowledge, this will affect mostly only C1 and C2.
C3+ WH doesnt have these type of blue loot in their combat sites. Meaby in some Gas/Ore site tho.
EDIT : Oups, my bad they do have the "Small intermediate frigates" and "Medium intermediate cruisers" mentioned above. Guess a few mil more then |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.10.29 17:59:51 -
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This should really help the lower class wormholes. (hell everyone will see a something).
Sadly I didnt record each blue book type when I did all my testing, just the total amount. but looking back at some eve appraiser stuff I took.
but for 11 sites in a C1 used to be 33m books 80m salvage total of 113m, after changes it will be 96m books 80m salavge 176m total.
so a nice increase for them, will be similar for C2 as well. C3 looks like it will be 15m more per site C4 will be roughly 20 millon more a site. This is very rough so take it with a pinch of salt.
But will be a huge % income for C1 and C2, a reasonable amount increase for C3 and C4 and a small increase for C5 and C6. but everyones a winner
Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better
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corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:04:51 -
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Levina Windstar wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Potentially makes a c4 a greater cash cow (as well as c3 through c1)
Interesting development. To my knowledge, this will affect mostly only C1 and C2. C3+ WH doesnt have these type of blue loot in their combat sites. Meaby in some Gas/Ore site tho.
yeah they do.
here is a few pics from my first lot of testing (which I redid cos I wanted more accuracy)
you can work out how much extra you will get.
C1
http://evepraisal.com/e/2612517
C2
http://evepraisal.com/e/2653948
C3
http://evepraisal.com/e/2680937
C4
http://evepraisal.com/e/2769537
Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:27:33 -
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Not a huge buff for c4's but a buff to the entire series of lower end wormholes. Blue loot increase, nullsec sites, now just have to tweak the relics and data to make hacking them worth it, and the pve aspect will definetely be improved.
It's little tweaks like this that can improve wormhole space.
Do have a quick question after skimming the minutes. Did I miss the wormhole section of it. They were discussed in multiple areas but not in a whole, unless I missed the section (it's 140 pages).
Yaay!!!!
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corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:52:03 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote: Do have a quick question after skimming the minutes. Did I miss the wormhole section of it. They were discussed in multiple areas but not in a whole, unless I missed the section (it's 140 pages).
The first half of general game design was set aside for wormholes (Huge thanks to CCP Affinity). Alot is also discussed behind the scenes (read at the pub) and thats not included in the minutes
Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better
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King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:54:26 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:This has made my stockpile very happy
Well my salvage stockpile is still a sad stockpile it seems, but buffing C1-C2 income is an incredibly good move from CCP.
Excellent work, CSM and CCP! |
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:59:38 -
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I tole them a C2 static was essential. I tole them.
I, for one, welcome the hordes of Drakes about to clot the C2's. And FYI, anyone interested in getting their very own wormhole FOR FREE just get into Join W-Space channel in-game and I will link what empty holes I find. Comes with a Prolapse. "No Gank on Setup Guarantee".
J's before K's.
Prolapse. Turning holes inside out with pew pew.
http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:03:18 -
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Nice change.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.30 00:05:34 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:I tole them a C2 static was essential. I tole them.
I, for one, welcome the hordes of Drakes about to clot the C2's. And FYI, anyone interested in getting their very own wormhole FOR FREE just get into Join W-Space channel in-game and I will link what empty holes I find. Comes with a Prolapse. "No Gank on Setup Guarantee".
you know what as almost ridiculous as this sounds, this could be a comically efficient way to get people into wormhole space :-)
Now just need a way to consistently post it.
Yaay!!!!
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Stavaria
Galactic Response Recon
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Posted - 2014.10.30 00:36:35 -
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If there really was a no gank on setup guarantee I'd be down to poke into a c1 or c2 and setup shop. :P |
Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
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Posted - 2014.10.30 00:41:03 -
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Stavaria wrote:If there really was a no gank on setup guarantee I'd be down to poke into a c1 or c2 and setup shop. :P
I too find that a great idea. I'm prone to harassing people in holes, but I could give my word on after helping people in go out and not harass until I find that hole again. (As in NOT drop a scanning alt in there.... :) ) |
Ilaister
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:04:39 -
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Thankyou Corbexx.
Now we just have to learn to gank all these newbros gently so they stick around. |
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.10.30 02:26:48 -
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maybe its bias maybe its just the truth
but Corbexx rocks |
dhunpael
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Posted - 2014.10.30 08:22:35 -
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corbexx wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote: Do have a quick question after skimming the minutes. Did I miss the wormhole section of it. They were discussed in multiple areas but not in a whole, unless I missed the section (it's 140 pages).
The first half of general game design was set aside for wormholes (Huge thanks to CCP Affinity). Alot is also discussed behind the scenes (read at the pub) and thats not included in the minutes
To the pub ^^ |
Gospadin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.30 10:31:22 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:VERY interesting development. Doesn't change conflict generation, but should help with population/activity levels.
I disagree. population + activity = content
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Steven Hackett
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2014.10.30 12:00:14 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:SCC != SSC
Maybe update the title for disambiguation?
I was like "Why does Sleeper Social Club want blue lootz?" You can send all your blue lootz to me, I don't mind :) |
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