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Komi Toran
Paragon Trust The Bastion
347
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Posted - 2014.10.31 21:06:58 -
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David Therman wrote:This being one of those questions that queries why something doesn't exist/doesn't function in New Eden as we would expect, it's almost guaranteed to be covered by The Lore... and if it isn't, it's space magic. Impossible, as I have it on good authority that friendship is magic, and there's no friendship in Eve. Only deferred betrayal. |
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2014.10.31 21:08:03 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:I was taking a scenic stroll around new eden, when I discovered by moving close to the stars, I was not hauled around in a high radial per second orbit as would be normal.
Therefore, I need to ask the question, Where is the gravity?
because otherwise I can ether conclude that there is none in this universe, Or as to what seems more appropriate as all ships at rest come to a specific pitch, I can say that there is gravity, and ships have to use ballast and hot air to maintain their position.
Therefore, I have to say that we are not in a actual universe, but in an unknown "finite" area where the mechanics, constants and the abilities of us all can be changed at will.
We are not real, but experiments in a testing lab. Controlled by someone
Before we figure out gravity....what is the technology used to make space ships out nerf foam so the bounce off each other. |
Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
750
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Posted - 2014.11.01 02:19:23 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Sol Project wrote:Stationary?
So it's the bookmarks that are moving every once in a while?
I would assume it makes more sense to believe that it's the celestials which are moving, but in any way it's definitely SOMETHING that doesn't keep it's position. Even though it doesn't happen daily, the fact that instabookmarks have to be adjusted every once in a while means that "stationary" is a rather relative term. Suns, planets, moons, gates, stations and bookmarks don't move. They have absolute fixed coordinates. We have, however, changed the size of stations and gates and that may affect your insta-bookmarks. I can assure you they move. Either the Bookmarks or the celestials. It even happened during a gate camp one time when suddenly my scorpion bookmark was in range of the gate guns again- just 15 minutes and no session change in between... I can assure you they don't.
Probably a victim of the +/- 3km variance on the warp exit point.
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beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.11.01 02:58:30 -
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I hope the art department will take this vision under consideration when it comes time to update the Rupture models. |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
5
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Posted - 2014.11.01 02:59:57 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:I was taking a scenic stroll around new eden, when I discovered by moving close to the stars, I was not hauled around in a high radial per second orbit as would be normal.
Therefore, I need to ask the question, Where is the gravity?
because otherwise I can ether conclude that there is none in this universe, Or as to what seems more appropriate as all ships at rest come to a specific pitch, I can say that there is gravity, and ships have to use ballast and hot air to maintain their position.
Therefore, I have to say that we are not in a actual universe, but in an unknown "finite" area where the mechanics, constants and the abilities of us all can be changed at will.
We are not real, but experiments in a testing lab. Controlled by someone Also the planets and moons are not real there. U can fly into them, then they dissapear. And when u make it into the center of a sun(grab a fast ship, it will take a while) u will get a spectacular view and a nice bump. |
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
693
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Posted - 2014.11.01 20:33:10 -
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Cue Culture ship naming posts.
Complete Lack of Gravity is my Myrmidon.
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Pestilen Ratte
Artimus Ratte
0
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Posted - 2014.11.02 07:09:47 -
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Varchesse wrote:I just put it all down to the ship's computer making adjustments so that you don't have to worry about pesky physics.
This.
I reckon that somewhere in the lore, possibly not yet encountered by CCP staff, i was found that, very early in space travel, the limitations of the human mind, having evolved in fluid environments, were not able to compute the trajectories and velocities of zero friction space.
So, very early on, space flight computers governed the control interface so that ships would respond AS IF they were submarines in water. This proved to be such a sensational invention, so popular with everyone, that this system of space flight control became ubiquitous. Insurance companies soon required it as a matter of policy, and that was that.
All this happened before the Eve gate was ever built, and since the Empire races achieved their tech from its remnants, they also use this inherently sensible method of controlling space flight.
Occasionally some half wit complains that he is a space lord, and not a submarine pilot, and hacks into the central flight comp core to make things "real". And then he spirals into a sun, or asteroid, and is heard from no more... because the human brain can't handle real physics.
The sounds are also part of the flight computer making things easier for human biology. We use aural signals as an interface to the world, and so the ship computer translates light and shock wave cues into sounds we recognise, and may respond to.
With regard to the star system bodies not orbiting or even moving, I dunno. Maybe that is just lazy programming from CCP devs.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1407
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Posted - 2014.11.02 10:49:59 -
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Entity wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Sol Project wrote:Stationary?
So it's the bookmarks that are moving every once in a while?
I would assume it makes more sense to believe that it's the celestials which are moving, but in any way it's definitely SOMETHING that doesn't keep it's position. Even though it doesn't happen daily, the fact that instabookmarks have to be adjusted every once in a while means that "stationary" is a rather relative term. Suns, planets, moons, gates, stations and bookmarks don't move. They have absolute fixed coordinates. We have, however, changed the size of stations and gates and that may affect your insta-bookmarks. I can assure you they move. Either the Bookmarks or the celestials. It even happened during a gate camp one time when suddenly my scorpion bookmark was in range of the gate guns again- just 15 minutes and no session change in between... I can assure you they don't. Probably a victim of the +/- 3km variance on the warp exit point.
Uh there is something like that? I did not know that. Regardless of that. Why would they work 200 times before and then suddenly the bookmarks are out of range, agan without session change.
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Red Teufel
Mafia Redux Irresponsible Use of Capital.
388
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Posted - 2014.11.02 17:20:58 -
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I would like to see a more dynamic space. like random comets, planets shooting through a solar system. heck even random planets colliding. super nova pls pretty please. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2014.11.02 17:36:31 -
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Red Teufel wrote:I would like to see a more dynamic space. like random comets, planets shooting through a solar system. heck even random planets colliding. super nova pls pretty please. Fixed that for you.
Random planets colliding.
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Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.02 18:21:40 -
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For a similar scenario I once had to destroy conventional astrophysics, the solution that I came up with was that the equivalent of sub warp engines are not rocket engines as we know today but work through some strange yet unknown medium. A medium that the engines are not entirely able to detach from thus causing the friction like effect that conveniently provides all the stability required for an action shoot em up.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
731
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:05:00 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:I was taking a scenic stroll around new eden, when I discovered by moving close to the stars, I was not hauled around in a high radial per second orbit as would be normal.
Therefore, I need to ask the question, Where is the gravity?
because otherwise I can ether conclude that there is none in this universe, Or as to what seems more appropriate as all ships at rest come to a specific pitch, I can say that there is gravity, and ships have to use ballast and hot air to maintain their position.
Therefore, I have to say that we are not in a actual universe, but in an unknown "finite" area where the mechanics, constants and the abilities of us all can be changed at will.
We are not real, but experiments in a testing lab. Controlled by someone
what if it was like a Crowd being Controlled by a Production company or something
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
40
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Posted - 2014.11.02 20:21:53 -
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Miko Valentine wrote:no Gravity ? than why do i hear voices in space there is no Air so the sound waves could travel and there shouldnt be explosions and in Phoebe the Max capital ship travel range is 5 lightyears do the travel back in time when they do this Long range in a few seconds << they should and why does my ship burn when reaching the structure ... and all these Giant ships we Fly without a Crew Operating it this isnt possible
Wrong on all counts.
Read the lore.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:13:29 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:Miko Valentine wrote:no Gravity ? than why do i hear voices in space there is no Air so the sound waves could travel and there shouldnt be explosions and in Phoebe the Max capital ship travel range is 5 lightyears do the travel back in time when they do this Long range in a few seconds << they should and why does my ship burn when reaching the structure ... and all these Giant ships we Fly without a Crew Operating it this isnt possible Wrong on all counts. Read the lore.
Or check this out
Crew
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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
696
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:18:16 -
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Each spaceship has special Tesla coils that negate gravity in the vicinity of the spaceship, it's THAT simple
Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
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Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.02 22:32:14 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Each spaceship has special Tesla coils that negate gravity in the vicinity of the spaceship, it's THAT simple
Well I know why I didn't think of that
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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12506
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Posted - 2014.11.02 22:59:45 -
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Advanced Gravitics is a skill every capsuleer has by default.
I shall name my Domi Inappropriate Lack of Gravity.
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Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:04:19 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:I was taking a scenic stroll around new eden, when I discovered by moving close to the stars, I was not hauled around in a high radial per second orbit as would be normal.
Therefore, I need to ask the question, Where is the gravity?
How close are we talking about for gravity of an object to be strong enough to noticeably effect things ?
If you are that close to a star, I'm not sure that my main question would be why isn't the gravity having any effect.
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Sakaron Hefdover
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:29:02 -
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Well, The star example is a simple example, Seeing as the planets are supposed to move I guess the noticeable examples would be everything in system as everything with mass is being affected by gravity. |
Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:35:56 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:Well, The star example is a simple example, Seeing as the planets are supposed to move I guess the noticeable examples would be everything in system as everything with mass is being affected by gravity.
Everything with a mass exerts gravitation force, it is just negligible for those with a mass in tons much less than a moon and not a great deal for a moon either as demonstrated in video footage from 1969.
Although Titan (A moon of Saturn I think it is) is apparently not far off the mass of Earth.
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Sakaron Hefdover
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:40:47 -
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Fraid not as large masses attract small masses. Therefore as long as there is a large mass in system there will be an orbit of an angular velocity proportional to the mass of the star around the centre of mass in the system. |
Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.02 23:47:14 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:Fraid not as large masses attract small masses. Therefore as long as there is a large mass in system there will be an orbit of an angular velocity proportional to the mass of the star around the centre of mass in the system.
No my point is that if 1G is all The Earth exerts, do you need to calculate the effect of it ? most of the time probably not.
How many G does a star exert ?
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1409
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:28:13 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Sakaron Hefdover wrote:Well, The star example is a simple example, Seeing as the planets are supposed to move I guess the noticeable examples would be everything in system as everything with mass is being affected by gravity. Everything with a mass exerts gravitation force, it is just negligible for those with a mass in tons much less than a moon and not a great deal for a moon either as demonstrated in video footage from 1969. Although Titan (A moon of Saturn I think it is) is apparently not far off the mass of Earth. It is far off. (yada-yada*10^24 for Earth to yada-yada 10^23 kg for Titan. Also note that the density of Earth is 2,7 times higher than that of Titan.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:42:48 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote: It is far off. (yada-yada*10^24 for Earth to yada-yada 10^23 kg for Titan. Also note that the density of Earth is 2,7 times higher than that of Titan.
So maybe 0.25G but that is also going to depend on how close you are to it. Earth has 0.25G at a certain distance from the surface. I haven't looked into moon or planetary interaction so I don't know what a ship needs to do when it gets there. According to this Gravity the sun only exerts 26G
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Nevil Oscillator
46
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:02:52 -
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Maybe distance actually means distance from minimum safe distance.
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Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
216
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:24:14 -
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Bob has taken all the gravity and used it to create pockets of near reality space accessible by wormholes. Come visit; cheaper than Disneyland Paris, and far more exciting.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2558
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Posted - 2014.11.03 12:32:42 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The Eve universe operates on different physics than the one we inhabit, the fact that all of the planets are tidally locked and don't spin on their axis or orbit their stars should be a bit of a giveaway. Planets did rotate on their axis in the past. However, as apparently it made the Dust514 players a bit dizzy caused by the ludicrous speeds the planets rotated at, said planets were ordered to stop spinning.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Nevil Oscillator
47
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Posted - 2014.11.03 12:54:48 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Planets did rotate on their axis in the past. However, as apparently it made the Dust514 players a bit dizzy caused by the ludicrous speeds the planets rotated at, said planets were ordered to stop spinning.
A 24 hour rotation isn't going to be visible except in time lapse. A few planets in our solar system rotate at 3 times that speed. Errm yeah wonder if that makes a difference ?
I really must go out in a ship and have a look.
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Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2014.11.03 16:26:37 -
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CCP Explorer wrote: There is no gravity and the planets and moons are stationary. Hopes and dreams crushed. |
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
106
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Posted - 2014.11.03 17:02:03 -
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Sakaron Hefdover wrote:Therefore, I have to say that we are not in a actual universe, but in an unknown "finite" area where the mechanics, constants and the abilities of us all can be changed at will.
We are not real, but experiments in a testing lab. Controlled by someone
Congrats, you just discovered you are playing a video game.
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