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Brumortateu Rhadoshm
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.31 00:57:10 -
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Is interstellar travel possible in EVE, or is the game not set up technically for that to be possible?
By interstellar travel I mean travelling through space to go from one star system to another. If I were to set a course and speed, and AFK for a few centuries, would I eventually arrive in another system? Can this be accomplished with jump drives? Can you use a jump drive to arrive in the middle of nowhere? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5018
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Posted - 2014.10.31 01:02:06 -
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Not with the game mechanics. Every system is in it's own space. And even if it were, you'd take a long while to go from system to system, even on warp speed.
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R0mparkin
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
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Posted - 2014.10.31 01:20:22 -
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they are on different nodes |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.10.31 02:42:44 -
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Even if you were able to do this.. the session would never switch over, and you would be unable to do anything in system... ANYTHING!!!!!
It would be like finally getting to spend the night with Jessica Alba.. but being a blind quadruple amputee eunuch.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2014.10.31 02:45:15 -
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Someone did this to get to jove space a long long long time ago, they burned in one direction for a while, technically would up in the system they were going to, but as the session never changed they never got anywhere.
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Square PI
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.31 10:16:12 -
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Lets say you have a speed of 40 km/s (i know that you could be faster in the old days of EVE). It would still take 43 days to travel 1 AU.
1 Lj is around 63000 AU.
So you need only 7450 years to travel 1 Lj.
Even IF eve still exist at this time, it would have been faster to warp back after half the time, get a faster engine, and start again....
Just a little compare. The closed known Star to earth is still 4 Lj away. I dont know how close some stars are in EVE. But even with an average distance of 1/10 Lj, it would still take way to long.
In the end it does not matter if it is technical possible to travel from one start to the next within eve. It would be total impossible from the time it takes. |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
457
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Posted - 2014.10.31 10:40:22 -
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What you need is warp speed.
In EVE you need to warp to "something". That something has to be selected. Since you can't select a sun (or any object) from a different solarsystem or warp in a random direction in general; interstellar travel requires gates, wormholes or jumpdrives. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.31 10:44:26 -
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The EVE Gate finally can be seen from every system again.
Mr. Data... set a course! Warp 9!
Engage! |
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Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.31 11:43:45 -
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Square PI wrote:Lets say you have a speed of 40 km/s (i know that you could be faster in the old days of EVE). It would still take 43 days to travel 1 AU.
With the old probe system you could warp to basically any direction, negating the necessity to travel this kind of distances at sub-warp speeds. I believe it was attempted to travel to another system, but game mechanics happened.
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.31 13:56:38 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Not with the game mechanics. Every system is in it's own space. And even if it were, you'd take a long while to go from system to system, even on warp speed.
Not so, IRL you could reach the Alpha Centauri system in a Eve rookie ship in 48 hours. |
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:05:10 -
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Sol Project wrote:The EVE Gate finally can be seen from every system again.
Mr. Data... set a course! Warp 9!
Engage!
Thanks Sol. I did read this in Picard's voice.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8856
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:11:42 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Even if you were able to do this.. the session would never switch over, and you would be unable to do anything in system... ANYTHING!!!!!
It would be like finally getting to spend the night with Jessica Alba.. but being a blind quadruple amputee eunuch.
I'd still find a way.
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:43:28 -
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No session change - no getting to a different star system.
Here is a video of a dude (Not Identified) flying to Jove space years ago. Thread is here: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/427523-0/page/1 |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4761
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:59:56 -
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Technically we already have interstellar travel.
Each system is a different solar system and we can travel between them.
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Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:46:13 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: It would be like finally getting to spend the night with Jessica Alba.. but being a blind quadruple amputee eunuch.
I could still smell her... |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
158
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Posted - 2014.10.31 22:00:24 -
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Brumortateu Rhadoshm wrote:Is interstellar travel possible in EVE, or is the game not set up technically for that to be possible?
By interstellar travel I mean travelling through space to go from one star system to another. If I were to set a course and speed, and AFK for a few centuries, would I eventually arrive in another system? Can this be accomplished with jump drives? Can you use a jump drive to arrive in the middle of nowhere?
Every time I log into the Eve client I find myself 420 light years from Uranus. Does that count? |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2014.10.31 22:15:46 -
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There was a time in Eve where you could deploy a scanner probe, have it find your own ship with a huge scan deviation, then warp to the spot it found. With sufficient warps, you would get to "Another star". At the time the solar system map opened by zooming in on a star from the star map. You could actually follow your progress as you flew from one star to another.
Someone did this (it took a long time) but when they got to the location of the other star,as shown on the star map, there was nothing to see in space. No session change, no new solar system. They made a video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUl3zNiW648
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Serene Repose
1585
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Posted - 2014.11.01 00:15:15 -
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Is this the "There are no stupid questions, just stupid people who ask questions" thread?
I'd love to own a computer and monitor that would generate a map with this sort of capability. However, the walls of my vaulted ceiling home aren't large enough, and we need room inside the house for furniture, washer & dryer, that sort of thing.
As far as server side...maybe if we commandeered the NSA's mainframes we could loop them into one ...
NAAAAH! Looks like we have to live within our means. RATS!!
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Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2014.11.01 11:50:15 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:There was a time in Eve where you could deploy a scanner probe, have it find your own ship with a huge scan deviation, then warp to the spot it found. With sufficient warps, you would get to "Another star". At the time the solar system map opened by zooming in on a star from the star map. You could actually follow your progress as you flew from one star to another. Someone did this (it took a long time) but when they got to the location of the other star,as shown on the star map, there was nothing to see in space. No session change, no new solar system. They made a video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUl3zNiW648
A long long time ago, you could bookmark the system you were in, and warp to that bookmark. It would warp you in the direction you were facing for the total of your cap, people used to make some truly deep safe spots like that back then. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2014.11.01 12:11:36 -
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Space is really big. |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.11.01 12:30:24 -
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Now I'm thinking of an alternative jump method for capitals: Interstellar warp.
You target another star (within jump range), hook up the jump drive to the warp engine, light up the warp engine with the energy spike from the jump drive and accelerate to interstellar warp speed, which is some 10 times normal warp speed. Then after a few hours to days you end up at a random spot close to the targeted star (generated like a orbital launch).
It would be basically front loading the jump fatigue while allowing a somewhat covert entry into a system.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2014.11.01 12:59:20 -
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I've always been a fan of direct travel, even if technically slower than stargating. My last idea as such was the Star Jump Drive linked in my sig. But previous to that I had something called a Transwarp that would let you warp to any star inside your fuel range or capacitor range at a speed 10x (or more) your warp speed. All CCP would need to do is make a transition effect. I've always preferred the idea of non stargate interstellar travel, just seems more natural... if that makes any sense.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2014.11.01 15:14:09 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:Space is really big.
That's why it's called Space, there is an awful lot of it out there. |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
399
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:58:54 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: It would be like finally getting to spend the night with Jessica Alba.. but being a blind quadruple amputee eunuch. Actually a quintuple amputee would make your metaphor more worthy. Of course this would still leave you your tongue. Which might be nice.
On topic, yeah it is sorta odd how so many space games try to limit travel options. I guess they figure it creates choke points, etc. But ocean going vessels still have navigation commonalities even if they aren't restricted to certain destinations. Having the space equivalent of reefs and currents could be done with some more creative thinking. Oh well, jump gate, get dizzy and spew chunks. Thank CCP for the former and suck up the latter (the chunks ).
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.11.01 19:49:52 -
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If you want to point at a star and travel there, just play [redacted].
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2014.11.01 22:03:40 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: It would be like finally getting to spend the night with Jessica Alba.. but being a blind quadruple amputee eunuch. Actually a quintuple amputee would make your metaphor more worthy (eunuchs often didn't lose the whole package). Of course this would still leave you your tongue. Which might be nice enough. On topic, yeah it is sorta odd how so many space games try to limit travel options. I guess they figure it creates choke points, etc. But ocean going vessels still have navigation commonalities even if they aren't restricted to certain destinations. Having the space equivalent of reefs and currents could be done with some more creative thinking. Oh well, jump gate, get dizzy and spew chunks. Thank CCP for the former and suck up the latter (the chunks ). The sea. Flat. Two dimensional movement if we exclude sinking. Ships on sea are slow, too.
Space, unlike StarTrekSpace, is three dimensional and ships are rather fast.
Then there's the fact that space is much bigger. Much bigger. there is far more room to navigate through.
Your comparison is invalid. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.01 22:47:40 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Not with the game mechanics. Every system is in it's own space. And even if it were, you'd take a long while to go from system to system, even on warp speed. Not horribly long. An unmodified interceptor could make it from YA0 in Deklein to W-4 in Cloud Ring in about 29 hours, assuming it could make the journey in one long warp.
You could go from anywhere in k-space to anywhere else in k-space in at most a few days. But if you really wanted travel that slow you should have played Astro Empires.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2014.11.01 22:57:27 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Having the space equivalent of reefs and currents could be done with some more creative thinking. * waves
Sol Project wrote:Your comparison is invalid. hands * |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
399
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Posted - 2014.11.02 14:32:51 -
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Sol Project wrote: The sea. Flat. Two dimensional movement if we exclude sinking. Eve ship physics is more like a submarine. Which is 3 dimensional movement. Your criticism relies on an error in thinking eve physics actually simulate the physics of space travel.
Sol Project wrote: Ships on sea are slow, too. Space, unlike StarTrekSpace, is three dimensional and ships are rather fast.
"slow" is a relative term. Also, see above.
Sol Project wrote: Then there's the fact that space is much bigger. Much bigger. there is far more room to navigate through. Another relative term. On the sub atomic and atomic scale there is "big space" between particles. Also, to 15th century sailors the oceans were quite big, even as they perceived their sailing ships to go quite fast under a good breeze.
Sol Project wrote: Your comparison is invalid.
edit - It seems you and your sister live on these forums. Not that there's anything wrong with that
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2014.11.02 14:49:53 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Sol Project wrote: The sea. Flat. Two dimensional movement if we exclude sinking. Eve ship physics is more like a submarine. Which is 3 dimensional movement. Your criticism relies on an error in thinking eve physics actually simulate the physics of space travel. Sol Project wrote: Ships on sea are slow, too. Space, unlike StarTrekSpace, is three dimensional and ships are rather fast.
"slow" is a relative term. Also, see above. Sol Project wrote: Then there's the fact that space is much bigger. Much bigger. there is far more room to navigate through. Another relative term. On the sub atomic and atomic scale there is "big space" between particles. Also, to 15th century sailors the oceans were quite big, even as they perceived their sailing ships to go quite fast under a good breeze. Sol Project wrote: Your comparison is invalid. edit - It seems you and your sister live on these forums. Not that there's anything wrong with that Wow, I congratulate you for such a nonsensical, trollish response.
Sea=Flat, Space=3D. My criticism was none and was not built on an error. It was pointing out that you are comparing apples with oranges. 2D and 3D. SeaShips vs. SpaceShips. I know it's either beyond you, or you are just grasping for straws to find a way to make it look like your post wasn't stupid.
Your response has nothing to do with what you initially said and does not actually address my response properly.
Have a nice day. |
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