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Niskin
League of the Lost
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:55:53 -
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I can't speak for anybody else, but my 72m in skills costs about 13m ISK for a clone, and that is prohibitive to careless PvPing. What I mean is that if I have a bunch of Rifters or Ruptures or whatever and I want to go out and lose them spectacularly, I'm not going to continue doing so after getting podded more than once or twice in a day. Two poddings is roughly 3 unfitted Ruptures in cost.
I stopped training on this toon a couple years ago for that exact reason. Now I balance anything else I need against the risk of moving into a new clone tier. It's not expensive enough to keep me from PvPing, but it is a factor in whether I go out again after a loss. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23836
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Posted - 2014.11.06 19:15:13 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Nice strawman. The 12 PLEX was for game time. See first paragraph of my last post.
A high end implant set will cost you what? I've seen KMs with people who had over a billion and yet their total bonus from that implant set was a small fraction to the bonus they get from their SP while their SP has them at a clone level that is less than 50 million. That's not a bargain, that's a steal.
Ok I'm moving on from the imaginary implant thing, I regret inceptioning you.
The PLEX is for game time supports CCP's extra ISK fee for undocking with accumulated SP.
You have a couple valid arguments there. I can appreciate that.
here's an idea. Instant SP for a fee that is lost at death.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
165
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:14:15 -
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SP loss and med clone grades are being removed completely in Rhea.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23836
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:14:38 -
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4134
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:51:55 -
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are we good to you?
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Marsha Mallow
1688
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:54:22 -
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DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23837
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:55:10 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:are we good to you? yes tbh I feel I'm catching this wave at a fortunate time.
and fwiw i'm impressed by your participation in this thread prior to a dev post.
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Niskin
League of the Lost
37
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:03:00 -
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o7 Show
Skip to 20:40 for pod changes. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4135
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:04:03 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:are we good to you? yes tbh I feel I'm catching this wave at a fortunate time. and fwiw i'm impressed by your participation in this thread prior to a dev post.
tbh, CCP took it further than I suggested Not that I'm complaining. I just didn't think it was worth suggest as large a change.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1266
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:06:52 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:are we good to you?
If you were any better to us, EVE would lose its teen rating.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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Portmanteau
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
40
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:07:06 -
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Woop ! Infinite skill queue and year long su back on the table |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae C0VEN
374
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:09:16 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:SP loss and med clone grades are being removed completely in Rhea. Med clones or interceptors. Hrm. I thick CCP made a smart choice. With that fear out of rookie minds, give em cheap ship replacement and their bodies shall fill the sky then come back for more. When I run out of ships, i will throw Ibis. Woot!!! |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
5567
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:13:40 -
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The Paradox
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23837
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:20:46 -
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Yeah for sure. If this happens, annuals will be resubbed and mains unpacked onto their own accounts.
However, and fortunately, most of my accounts aren't due for renewal until after Rhea (a couple by just a day). Although I am convinced clone grades and SP loss will be removed, I'm waiting until after Rhea to re-enable the recurring fees, so the proper expansion gets the credit.
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Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae C0VEN
374
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:26:32 -
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This is what eve is about and nice to be back. Screw farkles. Get it to combat, good fights and Risk vs. Reward. So we got nullsec opening up, and removing of faping expenses. |
Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
47
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:31:04 -
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I still think that death should be meaningful, there should be serious setbacks to being podded.
If it ain't painful it's not really loss.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23843
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:45:29 -
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yeah, it's very literally a setback, and you have to travel or suffer jump fatigue. it's a more hardcore grid ejection
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Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:53:30 -
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Wow, it's happening
Thanks to everyone involved in this decision. See you in space...in a slasher |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1270
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Posted - 2014.11.07 15:25:16 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:I still think that death should be meaningful, there should be serious setbacks to being podded.
If it ain't painful it's not really loss.
There are still losses, they're just inflicted as a result of player choice and player action, instead of being a very minor and annoying ISK sink enforced by the game.
If implants weren't lost, you might have a point.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5643
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Posted - 2014.11.08 10:27:32 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:I still think that death should be meaningful, there should be serious setbacks to being podded.
If it ain't painful it's not really loss. There are still losses, they're just inflicted as a result of player choice and player action, instead of being a very minor and annoying ISK sink enforced by the game. If implants weren't lost, you might have a point.
If it were up to meGäó ALL ship loss would send power surges through the capsule and randomly damage or even destroy implants, spreading "the pain" to all users of implants and not just PVPers, but removing the "total loss" aspect as well.
At the same time, all capsules would be entirely indestructible but have limited overviews (gates, stations, POS) and no D-Scan and rather then getting podded back to the "respawn point" you have to slowboat it.
Yes I'm quite the horrible person even in RL. I'm also having a beer the size of my head right now.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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