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Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:39:18 -
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I collected some metrics over the last couple of weeks on running L5s missions, and I thought some people here might find it interesting so here we go.
How missions are run * Group of 4x Alts - 3 Domi + 1 Augoror - you can find the fits below * I don't use ISBoxer so I use drone assist on the Augoror to make the targeting faster/easier * Each Alt at has greater than 7x faction standing so i can decline missions that can't be blitzed. * 2 Agents in adjacent system so that I can get 8 missions total in the 4 adjacent system (that's just how the L5s spawn) * I use an omni tank so I never need to dock after collecting the missions, just run through the 4 systems * This does not take into account the amount of time it takes to exchange LP and sell on the Market. * Missions are run as groups of 8 so if you run 3 mission or 12 missions the ISK per hour will drop because you spend more of your time in station/warping * Some people run missions in Dual Carriers or Dual Marauders (two missions at a time), but I find that much more taxing with less missions/hour completed. * I have rated the difficulty as Easy/Medium/Hard. All the missions are easy if you are at your computer. That's just a scale of how dangerous the NPCs are if you are distracted by TV/Family/Pets/Dinner/EveForums/Ect . . .
You can see the spreadsheet here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i7oNV6DDE4jBR2I51mva-HHnCHTbkVen0lcLjWSVXV8/
ISK per hour is 1,004 Million using my jita sell prices for LP ISK per hour is 722 Million using my jita buy prices for LP
[Dominix, L5]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Reactive Armor Hardener Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Co-Processor II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I
Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Drone Link Augmentor II Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Improved Cloaking Device II
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Garde II x7 Curator II x7 Hobgoblin IIx5
Mid Grade Ascendancy Set in slots 1-5 WS-615
[Augoror, L5]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener Reactor Control Unit II Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I
Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Civilian Blaster (Assign the drones to assist this ship and use blaster to target them) Prototype Cloaking Device I
Medium Egress Port Maximizer I Medium Egress Port Maximizer I [Empty Rig Slot]
Hobgoblin IIx4
Mid Grade Ascendancy Set in slots 1-5 WS-610
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.31 19:05:50 -
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*250 mil/hr.
Did you use the test server or was this on Tranq?
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8862
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Posted - 2014.10.31 19:09:40 -
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Why do that when you can do the same thing with one carrier and an alt in a throw away cyno ship? Hell, after the patch (and if you are insane brave enough lol) you can use 2 scout and just jump your carrier through a gate to the next system if it's empty lol.
*My lvl 5 agent has 2 station systems right next door so when i blitz and only accept bltizable missions in one of those 3 systems, at this point I have a carrier in each system docked up so i just pod on over and go* |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.10.31 19:22:54 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:*250 mil/hr.
Updated Spreadsheet to include "Paranoid Loyd Settings" @ 147 ISK/LP |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.10.31 19:31:06 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Why do that when you can do the same thing with one carrier and an alt in a throw away cyno ship? Hell, after the patch (and if you are insane brave enough lol) you can use 2 scout and just jump your carrier through a gate to the next system if it's empty lol.
*My lvl 5 agent has 2 station systems right next door so when i blitz and only accept bltizable missions in one of those 3 systems, at this point I have a carrier in each system docked up so i just pod on over and go*
There are lots of ways to run L5s. I tried lots of different approaches and I never said this was the best. Its just the best that I have been able to obtain.
Feel free to post your strategies.
Personally I found that the amount of time it took to warp carrier to mission, then back, then fly around in shuttle to get the next mission, then fly back to carrier ended up taking me much longer to complete than if I ran it with Bships.
I also found that because carriers are much easier to scan down and much juicier target, it's harder to run them in hostile territory
-FM |
Mooh Bear
Gurista Testing Group LLC
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Posted - 2014.10.31 20:19:20 -
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That's great data. Do your calculations take into account the downtime caused by hostiles in the system? And what about losses (if any)? Also, I'd think somebody running missions regularly in the same sector will attract attention at some point. Did you experience this? |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.10.31 20:31:00 -
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Mooh Bear wrote:That's great data. Do your calculations take into account the downtime caused by hostiles in the system? And what about losses (if any)? Also, I'd think somebody running missions regularly in the same sector will attract attention at some point. Did you experience this?
I have been running L5s on and off for years now and this fit includes a lot of anti-pirate fittings. Note the cloak and MWD to get you off gates and the ECCM to make scanning more difficult.
I would say that I loose 1-2 Domis per year to pirates and that it affects my mission running 1 out of every 20 "sessions".
I know if I am being actively hunted. In that case I stick to missions that can be completed in less than 3 minutes.
As far as attracting attention, T1 ships aren't what dedicated pirates are hunting for (and someone who isn't dedicated isn't going to catch me). T1 ships that the pirate knows are going to complete the mission or warp away before they can get a lock on are even less appealing.
Note: when i was flying Carriers, Marauders, or Faction Bships I got a lot more attention. That's a big part of the reason I fly the domis.
-FM
Edit You can decrease the ISK per hour by 2.5% due to disruptions and subtract 2 million per hour to account for losses to player pirates. You could also subtract another 10 million per hour to losses due to "distractions" |
stoicfaux
5371
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Posted - 2014.11.01 14:42:50 -
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Fango Mango wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:*250 mil/hr. Updated Spreadsheet to include "Paranoid Loyd Settings" @ 147 ISK/LP 1 billion/hr / 4 accounts == 250M/hr People get pedantic when you use multiple accounts.
Basically, your first two and a half hours cover plex for three alts (not counting your "primary" account), after which it's all profit.
(-2.6B (for 3 plex for 3 alts) + (num_hours) * (1B / hour)) / (num_hours) = isk/hour
Ex: after 10 hours of level 5s in a month, (-2.6 + 10) / 10 = 0.74B / hour after 20 hours of level 5s in a month, (-2.6 + 20) / 20 = 0.87B / hour after 40 hours of level 5s in a month, (-2.6 + 40) / 40 = 0.94B / hour
Again, pedantry.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.01 15:28:47 -
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stoicfaux wrote:People get pedantic when you use multiple accounts.
rightly so.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2158
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:08:17 -
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since the marauder buff, i periodically ruminate on soloing lvl5s with a marauder. is this a reasonable idea or would it be too inefficient to be worth my time?
I should buy an Ishtar.
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:46:03 -
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mjd ravens can do it.
ishtar with basi combo can do most of them.
I like ishtar basi myself as you can just add more ishtars to it for faster times. |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.11.04 16:25:14 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:since the marauder buff, i periodically ruminate on soloing lvl5s with a marauder. is this a reasonable idea or would it be too inefficient to be worth my time?
Can you complete L5s with marauders. You bet . . .
Can you complete 10x L5s per hour with marauders. Not with a single ship. With a fleet of them sure, but the domi's are easier to micro and attract a lot less attention than a fleet of marauders.
As far as is it worth your time, only you can say. If you've never run L5s before it will be *new* for you at least. Low sec is a lot more fun that high sec. Once you are experienced, low sec is "mostly safe", but you will lose ships - especially if you are primarily a high sec dweller.
-FM
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