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nashi
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:41:00 - [1]

Edited by: nashi on 23/08/2006 15:49:16
I've been asked to post the following, Sara Dawn's account is currently disabled, so please contact Sara through the email address in the quote below.

nashi
BIG Corp

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Hi,

I cannot get ingame or use Sara's account atm due to it being off for
now, so I've asked nashi second in command in BIG to post this for me,
thanks nashi.
Please use my email address to contact me, dawn.sara .at. gmail.com

As announced here is the Skills Showroom v2.0 :)
After the huge success that was v1.0 (778 characters uploaded), and
with all the community feedback i have released v2.0 bigger, better,
faster :)

(yellow ones are new)

Current Features:

- List of characters by skillpoints
- List of characters by number of lvl5 skills
- Top 10 in a skill category
- Full ordered list in every category
- 2 Different Skill tables/matrices for comparison
- List of ships a char can fly
- List of chars that can fly a ship
- Show missing skills ( color markings: green you have all the pre
requirements and can train right away, yellow you're missing some pre
requirements for it, red are skills not release to the public yet)
- Marking on "freshness" of charsheet
- Many other small features and many to come

- Top number of skills level 0,1,2,3,4,5
- Top number os skills in ranks
- Checkbox to make chars private, only showing totals in each category
- In every character, number of lvl1,2,3,4,5 , rank stats, personal statistics
- Number of ships can fly/total ships to the "can fly" page? Percentage counts
- Racial Statistics, Gender Statistics
- Recently Updates Char List with date and time
- Alphabetical Sorting of Characters
- Full top list of skills
- ChangeLog, News, F.A.Q., Help, About
- Corporation now shown on Character Sheet


EVE Skills Showroom

I'm also making this tool available privately for corporation or
alliances, drop me a email to dawn.sawn .at.
gmail.com . price is 50mil / month , with a one time sign up and setup
fee of 150mil.

Hope this tool will help the people who like to compete skillpoints
wise, without the huge threads full of replies, and big working
keeping track of every one's skills for the top.

I have uploaded both of my chars and I'm inviting everyone to do the same :)

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(to be edited based on community feedback)


Best Regards
Sara Dawn
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:57:00 - [2]

Edited by: RaTTuS on 23/08/2006 16:03:40
The link is in my Sig

Aha original thread fixed now...Very Happy


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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:03:00 - [3]

Edited by: Grey Area on 23/08/2006 21:10:15
FANTASTIC tool. First one was good, this is a massive improvement.

One suggestion...is it possible to count the number of ranks any player has at each level, and arrange them in that order? After all, taking a rank 8 skill to level 5 is more of an accomplishment than taking a rank 1 skill to level 5. This would look like the "Top Skills in Levels" but instead of just counting the number of skills, count the ranks of each skill...so a rank 5 skill would count 5, instead of just one.

In addition, would it be possible to display the rank of each skill on the individual character sheet?


I know others have asked for this before - but please don't let this little request detract in any way from what is an awesome tool.
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Rumbaar
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Posted - 2006.08.24 00:07:00 - [4]

Fantastic tool and great addtions.

What does Upload as Private mean/do?

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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2006.08.24 03:05:00 - [5]

Very cool...nice additions...stellar effort Sara ExclamationCool

I do think that people will still want to be able to get to the full list for total skillpoints (as was shown on version 1), total skills, maybe the skill categories also. It would be cool if you could click on the top 10 category heading and drill down to the complete list so people could see where they stand, who's in front of 'em and who's on their tail, in any of the top 10 categories that are currently shown. For example, I could click on the "Gunnery" heading, then scroll down to the bottom of the list to find my name Laughing





digitalwanderer
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The Scope

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Posted - 2006.08.24 04:21:00 - [6]

Originally by: Dr Caymus
Very cool...nice additions...stellar effort Sara ExclamationCool

I do think that people will still want to be able to get to the full list for total skillpoints (as was shown on version 1), total skills, maybe the skill categories also. It would be cool if you could click on the top 10 category heading and drill down to the complete list so people could see where they stand, who's in front of 'em and who's on their tail, in any of the top 10 categories that are currently shown. For example, I could click on the "Gunnery" heading, then scroll down to the bottom of the list to find my name Laughing



You can already do that,just click on the Icon for each top 10 category...Razz





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Posted - 2006.08.24 07:49:00 - [7]

Rumbaar...I LOVE your sig...but in the spirit of pedantry for which I am well known, it should be "Quoth the Raven", not "Quote the Raven". Smile
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Posted - 2006.08.24 09:46:00 - [8]

Originally by: Rumbaar
Fantastic tool and great addtions.

What does Upload as Private mean/do?


it means that your Skills are not shown to the public .. i.e. just a summery is shown.
you can tryu it yourself ..
just upload as pirvate and check it out .. to make them public just upload again
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:17:00 - [9]

Thank you Grey Area for the correction, and duely adjusted Smile

Thx RaTTus.
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:27:00 - [10]

NOW it's PERFECT :-)

Embarassed *jealous* Embarassed

I remember once I rewrote the poem and posted it...during one of CCP's perennial "Nerf the Raven" sessions. I imagine the post is long gone now.
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Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:49:00 - [11]

Originally by: digitalwanderer


You can already do that,just click on the Icon for each top 10 category...Razz



Thanks digi...I don't know how I missed that...awesome!


Originally by: digitalwanderer


You're 746th in gunnery out of almost 800 entries so far.....Could be worseLaughingRazz



Far worse is my percentage gunnery to total Laughingugh


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Posted - 2006.08.24 18:44:00 - [12]

So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server?

Will give it a try. How long can it take for the character to show up on the list?
digitalwanderer
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The Scope

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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:21:00 - [13]

Originally by: Alistor Drake
So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server?

Will give it a try. How long can it take for the character to show up on the list?



The page reloads and your stats for every category are shown right away.....
Alistor Drake
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:04:00 - [14]

Originally by: digitalwanderer
Originally by: Alistor Drake
So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server?

Will give it a try. How long can it take for the character to show up on the list?



The page reloads and your stats for every category are shown right away.....


For me it only starts to upload it then the browser says finished but the page don't refresh. Tried in both firefox and explorer.
TornSoul
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:13:00 - [15]

Originally by: Alistor Drake
So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server?



I could be wrong, so dont shoot me...

But I think the evemon xml is "different" from the xml from the one you can dl from the eve-online char page, and thus dont work.


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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:37:00 - [16]

Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Alistor Drake
So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server?



I could be wrong, so dont shoot me...

But I think the evemon xml is "different" from the xml from the one you can dl from the eve-online char page, and thus dont work.




Yeh, that was the problem. Thanks for the help :)
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:47:00 - [17]

Nice upgarde from the first version. ugh

One small error: On the "sort names alpabetically" list, hitting M brings you to the N sortings.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.08.25 09:52:00 - [18]

Another suggestion...how about a "compare" function...select two or three (or however many sensibly fit on a single screen width) characters and list the skills side by side...?
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Posted - 2006.08.26 02:36:00 - [19]

Edited by: Tripoli on 26/08/2006 02:37:13
Something fishy with 0mega. Linkage. Note the complete lack of Rank 1, 2, 3, & 4 skills, and the fact that he has more rank 5 skills than are possible.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 09:51:00 - [20]

Edited by: Mudkest on 26/08/2006 09:52:47
Originally by: RaTTuS
Originally by: Rumbaar
Fantastic tool and great addtions.

What does Upload as Private mean/do?


it means that your Skills are not shown to the public .. i.e. just a summery is shown.
you can tryu it yourself ..
just upload as pirvate and check it out .. to make them public just upload again


yup, cept that if you upload as private, you are still listed in the matrix along with what skill you have at what level, so not completely private though

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Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:45:00 - [21]

Edited by: Reiisha on 26/08/2006 18:48:20
I was actually expecting to see a ranking of who can fly the most ships aswell :D

Would be funny.

Would need to include titans and faction ships too though imho...

edit: found the titans :P




Barbicane
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Posted - 2006.08.28 05:23:00 - [22]

Minor bug report: The Obelisk freighter is listed in the Minmatar column on the ships page. Should be Gallente.

Would it be possible to change those ship icons to links into the Item Database. I found some ships I didn't know I could fly and it would be nice to be able to quickly get some more information on them Cool

Great tool.
Ravenal
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:16:00 - [23]

the ranks are strange...
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Garramon
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Posted - 2006.08.28 14:40:00 - [24]

Obelisk and Fenrir are swapped on at least one view.
For some reason the fact that ~50% of the people replying to the thread fail to read and understand the point of the OP is hilarious.
HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2006.09.01 13:33:00 - [25]

You might wanna check CB Cyrix aswell, he started a year after release but with 57mil SP Laughing I flown with him in my Xetic days. He is just trying too get some status. He has like half of the SP shown there.

What some people will do too get some respect Laughing
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Posted - 2006.09.01 14:03:00 - [26]

How long does it take for an uploaded character to appear?
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Posted - 2006.09.01 14:19:00 - [27]

Edited by: CB Cyrix on 01/09/2006 14:20:37
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
You might wanna check CB Cyrix aswell, he started a year after release but with 57mil SP Laughing I flown with him in my Xetic days. He is just trying too get some status. He has like half of the SP shown there.

What some people will do too get some respect Laughing


YARRRR!! Yea, Im up to 58mil sp now YARRRR!!

But yea, delete it please, coz it was just a play post. Would be nice to have that much SP lol.

Im stuck on 36mil, but still not bad considering I started ages after you HC MasiEEE...Laughing

Callisto Augustus
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Posted - 2006.09.01 14:53:00 - [28]

Edited by: Callisto Augustus on 01/09/2006 14:56:10
Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data...

Also, is there a way to DELETE your character once uploaded? In case I get into a war or something? Maybe I overlooked it.

omg if i have to login one more time to post one stupid message...just had to relogin in twice to edit it too....GEEZUS!



Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.09.01 18:05:00 - [29]

Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data...


This is impossible to do unless CCP publishes everyone's XML's publically, or takes over Sara's tool and puts in an option to make your stats public or not.

Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Also, is there a way to DELETE your character once uploaded? In case I get into a war or something? Maybe I overlooked it.


Mail Sara, as mentioned in the opening post. She has to manually delete those for the time being.




Callisto Augustus
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Posted - 2006.09.02 11:38:00 - [30]

Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data...


This is impossible to do unless CCP publishes everyone's XML's publically, or takes over Sara's tool and puts in an option to make your stats public or not.



Um, no that's not correct. You're uploading a file from you computer, which you download from the main Eve site. What you get is a simple .xml file which is easily modifiable with Notepad.

Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Also, is there a way to DELETE your character once uploaded? In case I get into a war or something? Maybe I overlooked it.


Mail Sara, as mentioned in the opening post. She has to manually delete those for the time being.


Okay, cool.

Callisto



Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.09.02 12:32:00 - [31]

Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data...


This is impossible to do unless CCP publishes everyone's XML's publically, or takes over Sara's tool and puts in an option to make your stats public or not.



Um, no that's not correct. You're uploading a file from you computer, which you download from the main Eve site. What you get is a simple .xml file which is easily modifiable with Notepad.


I mean, CCP should make an official page on the EVE site, and there's a checkbox in your "My Character" screen on whether you want your character stats publicized or not. I'm not talking about downloading/uploading anything :)




Zoltaris
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:17:00 - [32]

Originally by: nashi

- Show missing skills ( color markings: green you have all the pre requirements and can train right away, yellow you're missing some pre requirements for it, red are skills not release to the public yet)

Suggestions:
- add a pulple color, red would be for skill not yet released but that you have the pre requirements (if available) and purple for skills not yet released and that you don't have these pre requirements

- add a "Last Updated" time and date for all chars, so when looking at them, we could know how old that info is

- add the attributes for the chars when we look at their personal stats, with an option to hide them for those that don't want to show them

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NightmareX
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:41:00 - [33]

Edited by: NightmareX on 06/09/2006 15:42:39
Nice tool, but i have two questions.

1. When you upload the xml file to the site, then you can look on the Ship List, and does that list shows what kind of ships i have had or what ship i have?

2. Well i'm not sure on how this is working, but shouldn't it be cool to have faction ships showed under Ship List. Also i have a Machariel, and if the Ship List shows what kind of ships you have had or have, then i would like to have my Machariel under that list. Or isn't that showed because of security reason?
Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:13:00 - [34]

The ship list shows what kind of ships you are able to fly. Faction ships not included.
Interesting times await...
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Posted - 2006.09.07 06:55:00 - [35]

Originally by: Janus Ovellian
The ship list shows what kind of ships you are able to fly. Faction ships not included.


Ok, thanks for the answerVery Happy
Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:06:00 - [36]

Great tool looks nice and wroks quite well.

Missing: Rank 5 & 11 skills in the: Top x rank skills.

I would love to see something like this added to the options: Linky (the popup on mouse over is what I mean leaving out the sp/hour calculations maybe Wink)


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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:51:00 - [37]

Originally by: Ralitge boyter
Great tool looks nice and wroks quite well.

Missing: Rank 5 & 11 skills in the: Top x rank skills.

I would love to see something like this added to the options: Linky (the popup on mouse over is what I mean leaving out the sp/hour calculations maybe Wink)




I don't believe there are any rank 11 skills in the game.
And, although the number 5 is not included in the list Top Skills in Ranks, the number '6' jumps to a page listing the rank 5 skills.
There is a missing " in the link for rank 5 that is messing the url up.
Interesting times await...
Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2006.09.08 16:17:00 - [38]

hey hey

Fenrir is still showing under the gallente column.

what about a skill density (skills/points)

BTW stil looks good :))

the matrixes take an age to load.



F4ze
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Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated

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Posted - 2006.09.12 01:45:00 - [39]

This thread could use some glue.

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Posted - 2006.09.15 16:04:00 - [40]

Up to 1194 Characters now.
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Sara Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.19 09:54:00 - [41]


Hi everyone :)

i wanted to say i'm back in eve, and i'll be compiling a list of new features to be included in a new version of the skills showroom (v3.0) based on all your feedback.

I would also like to thank everyone that emailed me while i was away.
I hadnt had a chance to say this but the number of people using the site is really impressive :)

Wink

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Posted - 2006.09.19 12:40:00 - [42]

Edited by: RaTTuS on 19/09/2006 12:43:07
WB,
missed you ...

and I see the members are rising. \o/
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Sara Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.30 11:19:00 - [43]


Hi,

i havent forgotten about all of you :) but i have been busy with alot of projects, havent gotten arround to making the new version, but it's a promise.

Due to the bad performance of ccp's char image server, i made a change and i'm now caching everyones pic for faster display.

cheers

Cool
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Barbicane
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The Gun Club

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Posted - 2006.09.30 18:22:00 - [44]

Originally by: Sara Dawn
...Due to the bad performance of ccp's char image server, i made a change and i'm now caching everyones pic for faster display.
There's a server for that? Aha, I always wondered where you got the images from. Very Happy
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Posted - 2006.10.03 21:52:00 - [45]

i've got bad news for the top 10 in trade, this char has 5.443.741 sp in trade and still gooing

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Posted - 2006.10.05 12:05:00 - [46]

Can we have a list done by update time please.
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Slack Scientist
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Posted - 2006.10.06 15:54:00 - [47]

Can you make it so it looks good -
or at least useful a bit in game
...
So i can put a link in my Bio
Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2006.10.07 03:10:00 - [48]

Originally by: Slack Scientist
Can you make it so it looks good -
or at least useful a bit in game
...
So i can put a link in my Bio

Oi, get to work!


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Caldari

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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:54:00 - [49]

Suggestion: on the "Ships & Pilots" page, would it be possible to show the number of pilots for a given ship by the ship's icon? It would give a very quick indication of the most commonly flown and (perhaps more interestingly) least-commonly flown ships in EVE.
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Slack Scientist
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Posted - 2006.10.10 12:37:00 - [50]

:-) ... but seriously ...
and a little flashing whatsit to show which skill is being trained currently.. that would be handy
Sara Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:55:00 - [51]


Current list of features to be implemented based on community feedback.

- ingame display with settings
- ships & pilots pilot count
- add updated time to char info
- bloolines included in racial statistics
- show current skill training

keep them comming :)

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Tripoli
Tripoli
XenTech

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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:43:00 - [52]

Oh, and of course have the list updated to include all current skills. Wink
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Tripoli
Tripoli
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:43:00 - [53]

I'd still like to see ties ranked as tied, not randomly. (i.e., all the people with maxed learning skills will all be ranked as 3rd.)
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Sara Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:40:00 - [54]

Current list of features to be implemented based on community feedback.

- ingame display with settings
- ships & pilots pilot count
- add updated time to char info
- bloolines included in racial statistics
- show current skill training
- check that all skills are in database
- check sorting issues
- allow a setting of a password ingame to be used in authentication in the out of game site
- with login allow person to list all the members of his corporation, not shown to everyone to make it harder to find all the members of a corp for security reasons.
- add extra security to upload and setting private, ability to set skill upload only if authenticated

keep them comming :)
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RaTTuS
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R i s e

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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:44:00 - [55]

Don't forget to say that you can provide Private Corp versions.
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Relier
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:13:00 - [56]

It's odd that the top 3 players listed under total skill points in LEARNING have more skill points in that category than it is possible to get. Embarassed
Sara Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:09:00 - [57]

There was a bug a while back that skills continued to
acumulate/train skillpoints after reaching lvl5 this bug has now been fixed for a long time, but people who where afected still have the extra skillpoints past lvl5 (doesnt make any
change in gameplay).
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:23:00 - [58]

The skill "Carriers" should probably be removed from the list of skills not released, seeing as we ha