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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
14
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:03:42 -
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Cosmic Jihadi is ganking new players.
While I wouldn't bother if someone incidentally killed a new player in the course of their game play, I think this pattern of selectively targeting newbs is rather disturbing.
zkillboard
I sent him a mail and warned him. Guess we'll see if he continues...
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
131
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:38:31 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Cosmic Jihadi is ganking new players. While I wouldn't bother if someone incidentally killed a new player in the course of their game play, I think this pattern of selectively targeting newbs is rather disturbing. zkillboardI sent him a mail and warned him. Guess we'll see if he continues...
None of those systems on that kill board are "rookie systems" where attacking new players in prohibited.
Why shouldn't a newbie ganker be able to go after newbie miners? Isn't conflict like this part of the game?
Do you expect a new player who want a ganking career to start with Mackinaws and Hulks right away? Just like a mining career where you start out a mining frigate, a ganker often starts with the small fish, like Ventures before going after the whales.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6369
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Posted - 2014.11.03 09:45:09 -
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iv shot more nubies than that, its a great way to strike up a conversation, no really it is.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
686
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Posted - 2014.11.03 10:26:47 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Cosmic Jihadi is ganking new players. While I wouldn't bother if someone incidentally killed a new player in the course of their game play, I think this pattern of selectively targeting newbs is rather disturbing. zkillboardI sent him a mail and warned him. Guess we'll see if he continues...
I got concerned at once then realized that I should not have,
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
207
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Posted - 2014.11.03 12:10:30 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Cosmic Jihadi is ganking new players. While I wouldn't bother if someone incidentally killed a new player in the course of their game play, I think this pattern of selectively targeting newbs is rather disturbing. zkillboardI sent him a mail a and warned him. Guess we'll see if he continues...
What will you do if he doesn't stop?
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Haedonism Bot
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1486
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:01:06 -
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^ Excellent question. You have warned him to stop his legitimate gameplay activities.
How do you intend to back that up?
Edit: Further investigation reveals that the ganker in question is himself a new player. This puts an additional spin on the conversation.
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs
www.everevolutioanryfront.blogspot.com
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
14
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:19:31 -
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Received a response to my mail. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce any of it, even in C&P, without violating the forum rule:
7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.
Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political afiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6375
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:27:36 -
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That being the case , and given his name, I think it's fair to say he's doing role-play right (ish)
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
14
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:49:38 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: That being the case , and given his name, I think it's fair to say he's doing role-play right (ish)
I cannot even print what he said in local, either.
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
14
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:54:01 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:^ Excellent question. You have warned him to stop his questionable gameplay activities.
How do you intend to back that up?
Edit: Further investigation reveals that the ganker in question is himself a 38 day-old player. This puts an additional spin on the conversation.
Fixed that for you.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
133
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Posted - 2014.11.03 16:14:34 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:^ Excellent question. You have warned him to stop his questionable gameplay activities.
How do you intend to back that up?
Edit: Further investigation reveals that the ganker in question is himself a 38 day-old player. This puts an additional spin on the conversation. Fixed that for you.
I am confused. What is the maximum allowable difference in age between characters for them to engage in PvP?
Two of his five kills were older than him, one a 2012 character. Are those kills legit?
And, while we are at it, when does a new player stop being new? From your post I guess it is somewhere between 1 and 37 days, but it isn't quite clear to me when that transition takes place. |
Dwissi
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2014.11.03 16:44:41 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:iv shot more nubies than that, its a great way to strike up a conversation, no really it is.
If they would just do as you do - unfortunately not many left with that style of educative conversation as in my early days of Eve
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Before someone complains again: grr everyone
Greed is the death of loyalty
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6378
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Posted - 2014.11.03 16:51:43 -
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Dwissi wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:iv shot more nubies than that, its a great way to strike up a conversation, no really it is. If they would just do as you do - unfortunately not many left with that style of educative conversation as in my early days of Eve that's a pitty, I do encourage them to carry it forward when they are sound about it.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
677
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Posted - 2014.11.03 19:31:56 -
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Less than two months old and already nomming on his fellow pilots? I'd say he's doing it right. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
422
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Posted - 2014.11.03 19:38:47 -
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I think it is great when a new player creates such great content for his fellow new players.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space
597
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Posted - 2014.11.03 20:20:53 -
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I see him going places, good places. There is nothing wrong here. Everything is as it should be.
The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots.
Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! [The Law][3] of High Sec.
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
996
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:00:23 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Received a response to my mail. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce any of it, even in C&P, without violating the forum rule:
7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.
Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political afiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums. allah al gankbar?
Concord Approved Trader
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
236
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:33:00 -
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Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course. |
Leto Thule
Whelp Club
1566
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Posted - 2014.11.04 02:50:08 -
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Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Received a response to my mail. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce any of it, even in C&P, without violating the forum rule:
7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.
Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political afiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums. allah al gankbar?
Seriously. Please explain how - in even the slightest way - your (hilarious) warning to stop a legitimate gameplay style results in discussion of "real world politics" or even better "religion"??
How do either of those involve blowing up players in an internet spaceship game about blowing up internet spaceships?
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks.
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
14
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Posted - 2014.11.04 04:09:38 -
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Leto Thule wrote:
Seriously. Please explain how - in even the slightest way - your (hilarious) warning to stop a legitimate gameplay style results in discussion of "real world politics" or even better "religion"??
How do either of those involve blowing up players in an internet spaceship game about blowing up internet spaceships?
I dunno Leto (and all), I got a mail filled with RL zealotry. I could accept and deal with RP stuff, that's just part of the game, you know. And I really don't care about ganking either, for the same reasons. The newb killing thing I'm not so forgiving, that is what set me off. Something just didn't seem right, especially after the comment left in local. Some NPE, getting that thrown at you.
Sigh, defend the gameplay if you wish, but the RL zealotry isn't an easy pass. Not in Eve, and not with me. I haven't sent anything to CCP, it's not how I prefer to deal with things. Haven't decided what to do yet...
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3004
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Posted - 2014.11.04 04:46:15 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course.
Targeting new players with boring grindy pro-PVE influence is a greater crime than ganking them. All of you incursion people that encourage newbies to grind up for incursions should be banned. In fact incursions are causing great harm to newbies because of this so they should be removed from the game.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
685
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:11:37 -
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Mayhaps my definition of what a 'new' player is differs from others... I consider anyone under a year old to be a new player. Of course this wont stop me from shooting them in the face and subsequently having a chat with them if they're amenable. However, this is a case of a new player shooting other new players... working as intended in that regards.
As to the OP, if his actions aren't the issue but instead the content of his messages... well that IS something that falls into CCP's court rather than C&P's. They do care about such things and if he's crossing over the line I'd recommend following the proper channels and get that taken care of. |
Danjun Zahid
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:54:22 -
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i agree with the above post, do take it up with ccp regarding the messages if you feel that they were unnacceptable, they have logs for that. however i did chuckle at your point of saying that you are 'deciding what to do next'. in regards to his play style, the only thing you can do is go hunt him down yourself and show him the error of his ways or hire someone to do it. this may sound like 'defending' the game mechanics' but thats just it, this game doesnt care about your morals in regards to how the game is played, but it does if how they are talking is bad, especially to others. at the end of the day, he is creating content and that IS what this game is about. ccp gives us the means, and we take it for a ride.
peace out |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries Chelonaphobia
617
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:00:11 -
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La Nariz wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course. Targeting new players with boring grindy pro-PVE influence is a greater crime than ganking them. All of you incursion people that encourage newbies to grind up for incursions should be banned. In fact incursions are causing great harm to newbies because of this so they should be removed from the game.
TL/DR: I can't tax incursions or rent out incursion space to folks that don't own supers, therefore incursions are a bad game mechanics. Everyone should rent space from me. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6409
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:03:20 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:La Nariz wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course. Targeting new players with boring grindy pro-PVE influence is a greater crime than ganking them. All of you incursion people that encourage newbies to grind up for incursions should be banned. In fact incursions are causing great harm to newbies because of this so they should be removed from the game. TL/DR: I can't tax incursions or rent out incursion space to folks that don't own supers, therefore incursions are a bad game mechanics. Everyone should rent space from me. close TL/DR: **** you veers
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3008
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:32:58 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:La Nariz wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course. Targeting new players with boring grindy pro-PVE influence is a greater crime than ganking them. All of you incursion people that encourage newbies to grind up for incursions should be banned. In fact incursions are causing great harm to newbies because of this so they should be removed from the game. TL/DR: I can't tax incursions or rent out incursion space to folks that don't own supers, therefore incursions are a bad game mechanics. Everyone should rent space from me.
"it doesn't make sense"
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
236
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:18:05 -
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La Nariz wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course. Targeting new players with boring grindy pro-PVE influence is a greater crime than ganking them. All of you incursion people that encourage newbies to grind up for incursions should be banned. In fact incursions are causing great harm to newbies because of this so they should be removed from the game.
hahahahahhaha - an activity that can be done collaboratively and enjoyable in PvE fashion? Goon response - ban it. Unless you are actively trying to ruin someone's day and spread misery the Goon hive mine is unhappy and will try to get your gameplay banned. Can you guys be any more transparent? |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
236
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:18:48 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:La Nariz wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, kinda lame to target new players. -1
Only redeeming part of this thread is that a CONCORD Approved Trader showed up...they should really have a certificate for that, and some kind of mandatory ethics course. Targeting new players with boring grindy pro-PVE influence is a greater crime than ganking them. All of you incursion people that encourage newbies to grind up for incursions should be banned. In fact incursions are causing great harm to newbies because of this so they should be removed from the game. TL/DR: I can't tax incursions or rent out incursion space to folks that don't own supers, therefore incursions are a bad game mechanics. Everyone should rent space from me. close TL/DR: **** you veers
She ain't me Ralphie....The Veers alt conspiracy theories are getting old....try to bring some evidence next time, buddy. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
701
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:27:36 -
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We know she ain't you. She can read. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
236
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Posted - 2014.11.04 15:28:27 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:We know she ain't you. She can read.
Your hate only make me stronger Omar...I feed off ganker tears. |
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