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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
259
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Posted - 2014.11.10 22:34:45 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
you are powerless against even upstart 1 man corps who refuse to give in to your extortion and permits.
Thank you for a wonderful text bite confirming that there is no need to alter any high sec game mechanics, because, as you point out we are all powerless against even an upstart 1 man corp.
No, the awoxxing/wardeccs/ganking mechanics sap a lot of the fun new/casual players can have, and cause them to quit the game. Against hardened rebels such as myself, in tactically appropriate 1 man corps, CODE is rendered powerless and pathetic, and it's soaring rhetoric exposed as little more than a bombastic delusion. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
210
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Posted - 2014.11.10 23:40:52 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
you are powerless against even upstart 1 man corps who refuse to give in to your extortion and permits.
Thank you for a wonderful text bite confirming that there is no need to alter any high sec game mechanics, because, as you point out we are all powerless against even an upstart 1 man corp. No, the awoxxing/wardeccs/ganking mechanics sap a lot of the fun new/casual players can have, and cause them to quit the game. Against hardened rebels such as myself, in tactically appropriate 1 man corps, CODE is rendered powerless and pathetic, and it's soaring rhetoric exposed as little more than a bombastic delusion.
If you haven't been playing for longer than 5 years you don't know what hardened is.
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Beers Veldspar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2014.11.11 00:50:07 -
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Veers Belvar - Master of puppets wrote: No, the awoxxing/wardeccs/ganking mechanics sap a lot of the fun new/casual players can have, and cause them to quit the game. Against hardened rebels such as myself, in tactically appropriate 1 man corps, CODE is rendered powerless and pathetic, and it's soaring rhetoric exposed as little more than a bombastic delusion.
Mmmmm...My SwordMaster and heroic rebel leader, how about give them a lesson ?
My very very hard Lord
Veers Belvar, heroic figure in Highsec dedicated to preserving "Truth, justice, and the American way."
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Gedalva
22
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Posted - 2014.11.11 01:20:26 -
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Look everyone, pvp failures bringing the fight to care bears in a system near you. Oh how I wish they would find me mining in LJ-YSW and show me the error of my ways as I have never purchased a "mining permit". I hope they don't come out there when myself and my alliance mates are engaging in this illicit activity (nightly from 00:00-03:00 eve time). I just don't know what I will do! |
Haedonism Bot
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1537
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Posted - 2014.11.11 01:39:55 -
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Gedalva wrote:Look everyone, pvp failures bringing the fight to care bears in a system near you. Oh how I wish they would find me mining in LJ-YSW and show me the error of my ways as I have never purchased a "mining permit". I hope they don't come out there when myself and my alliance mates are engaging in this illicit activity (nightly from 00:00-03:00 eve time). I just don't know what I will do!
The New Order of Highsec fully supports you in your efforts to not mine in highsec. Great work!
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs
www.everevolutioanryfront.blogspot.com
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Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
26
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Posted - 2014.11.11 05:47:09 -
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I'm gonna help out the OP and at the same time help get this thread back on the right track. I shall now bring something to your attention just as you asked in the start of this thread. Bots. Yes I said it. Bots. Huge giant bot fleets all over new eden. All you have to do is undock in virtually any kind of ship and if it is capable of spaceflight you should be able to navigate to an ice belt where you are sure to find....... bots.Real actual bots.
Some of these bot fleets are easy to identify due to the sequential naming schemes they have adopted. Others may require a bit more investigation. Apparently your boss James 315 has eyes and ears everywhere, so its possible you already know who these bots are.
Maybe its time to give the month old retriever pilots, pods, shuttles and empty freighters a break for the time being and actually do what your self-appointed mandate calls for you to do. Besides the recent proc fleet being bombed to smithereens it seems like the campaign to rid new eden of actual botting players gets put on the back burner in favor of tear collecting and the other assorted villany that code and its associates are accused of on a daily basis.
I believe I can speak for more then a few citizens of hi-sec when I say we are ready to see if you can put your money where your mouth is and do the job you claim to be doing. You have the financial backing, tactical know-how and more then enough pilots to put a dent in these botters.What more do you need?
The code always wins, right? So what have you got to lose?
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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Paranoid Loyd
2568
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Posted - 2014.11.11 06:25:06 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote: I believe I can speak for more then a few citizens of hi-sec when I say we are ready to see if you can put your money where your mouth is and do the job you claim to be doing. Although I usually just troll people demanding that someone else do their job for them.....
I'll just leave this here.
How many bots have you killed big mouth?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
26
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Posted - 2014.11.11 06:55:23 -
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Nice catch Loyd. You must have read my post again and noticed I referenced that proc fleet. Kind of sad that a dedicated forum warrior such as yourself considers that tears. You been hanging out with the conference elite lately?
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
177
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Posted - 2014.11.11 07:52:11 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote:I'm gonna help out the OP and at the same time help get this thread back on the right track. I shall now bring something to your attention just as you asked in the start of this thread. Bots. Yes I said it. Bots. Huge giant bot fleets all over new eden. All you have to do is undock in virtually any kind of ship and if it is capable of spaceflight you should be able to navigate to an ice belt where you are sure to find....... bots.Real actual bots.
Some of these bot fleets are easy to identify due to the sequential naming schemes they have adopted. Others may require a bit more investigation. Apparently your boss James 315 has eyes and ears everywhere, so its possible you already know who these bots are.
Maybe its time to give the month old retriever pilots, pods, shuttles and empty freighters a break for the time being and actually do what your self-appointed mandate calls for you to do. Besides the recent proc fleet being bombed to smithereens it seems like the campaign to rid new eden of actual botting players gets put on the back burner in favor of tear collecting and the other assorted villany that code and its associates are accused of on a daily basis.
I believe I can speak for more then a few citizens of hi-sec when I say we are ready to see if you can put your money where your mouth is and do the job you claim to be doing. You have the financial backing, tactical know-how and more then enough pilots to put a dent in these botters.What more do you need?
The code always wins, right? So what have you got to lose?
We destroy and report bots. We destroy bot-aspirant fleets. And while it is true we despise them, actual botting does seem to fall into the realm of CCP and their EULA, and problem that goes beyond what can solved completely in game.
But what we can do is provide the risk in highsec that CCP envisioned when they designed this game. That risk is an equal opportunity force which washes over the the lazy/complacent, the new, the botters/AFKers, the greedy, and the stupid in New Eden and cleanses them with fire. That is our raison d'etre - to remind carebears and the other entitleds that Eve is a multiplayer sandbox. where they are always in competition with other players, even in "safe" highsec.
We provide more than risk too. We offer advice a training for new players (in the form of the Code), training that even comes with a certification (a mining permit). If they follow what's in there, they will be perfectly safe not only from us, but from the real ne'er-do-wells in highsec. We also offer ourselves as tear-extracting villains on the alter of emergent content, so people like you Tyyler, can find some purpose in your game play.
What we are not is your private police force. If you have a problem is an ISboxer fleet, then I suggest you do something about it, other than the all-too-common pattern of carebears coming to the forums to whine to CCP for game changes and pleading for other players to solve their in-game problems.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
461
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:05:04 -
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Gedalva wrote:Look everyone, pvp failures bringing the fight to care bears in a system near you. Oh how I wish they would find me mining in LJ-YSW and show me the error of my ways as I have never purchased a "mining permit". I hope they don't come out there when myself and my alliance mates are engaging in this illicit activity (nightly from 00:00-03:00 eve time). I just don't know what I will do! Will check if I can dispatch an AFK clocker to the system. He will be AFK since 00:00-03:00 is in the middle of the night for me, so no need to dock or something.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
91
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:08:49 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:So many tears.
No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1840
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Posted - 2014.11.11 09:39:39 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote:[stuff]
If dealing with bots is such an important issue for you, why does Eve-kill return "no results" for you? Man up and kill them yourself.
Edit: goddam stupid forum software doesn't know HTML from a snip and then loses my draft.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs | New Order diplomat
"no one hates you, none of us care enough for that".
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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium
43
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:17:50 -
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admiral root wrote:Sylphy wrote:Omg.. it's CODE, yet again.. I thought they all unsubbed since high-sec is clearly not a place where all the content happens. Totally no content in highsec, which is why we killed more last month than your alliance has killed in five years.
Obviously, we don't need to increase our virtual penises to feel we've accomplished something. You obviously need the kills, the permits andwhatnot to gauge your success.
Keep on persuading yourselves you're important, maybe someone will actually believe that you're not obviously irrelevant.
The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.
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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium
43
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:20:06 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Gedalva wrote:Look everyone, pvp failures bringing the fight to care bears in a system near you. Oh how I wish they would find me mining in LJ-YSW and show me the error of my ways as I have never purchased a "mining permit". I hope they don't come out there when myself and my alliance mates are engaging in this illicit activity (nightly from 00:00-03:00 eve time). I just don't know what I will do! Will check if I can dispatch an AFK clocker to the system. He will be AFK since 00:00-03:00 is in the middle of the night for me, so no need to dock or something.
Docking is redundant. We warp into POS shields to get safe. Bubble that jack.
The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.
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KaKaR0TT goku NINC
Gallente Federation Free Trade Union
0
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:46:16 -
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I don't know if you guys ever have seen "The Town" with Ben Affleck. A professional bank robbing gang causing the city of Boston quite a ruckus. I compare it to Eve online and I see some similarities between CODE and the Miners. It's a shame that I have asked to have this topic locked and look how far this debate has gone. There is a time for grabbing popcorn and watching this dispute to go way too far, If I were a member of ISD (I appreciate the hard work they do on the forums.) I would have locked this thread the moment I read the first request.
Maybe I should apply for ISD, I wonder if they're hiring at this time?
http://imgur.com/0RVYKcD
BOB Yesterday, CODE Today, Freedom Tomorrow.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1840
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:56:05 -
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Sylphy wrote:admiral root wrote:Sylphy wrote:Omg.. it's CODE, yet again.. I thought they all unsubbed since high-sec is clearly not a place where all the content happens. Totally no content in highsec, which is why we killed more last month than your alliance has killed in five years. Obviously, we don't need to increase our virtual penises to feel we've accomplished something. You obviously need the kills, the permits andwhatnot to gauge your success.
When did e-peen come into it? You were talking about content and I rebutted your silly statement.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs | New Order diplomat
"no one hates you, none of us care enough for that".
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
178
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:00:26 -
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KaKaR0TT goku NINC wrote:I don't know if you guys ever have seen "The Town" with Ben Affleck. A professional bank robbing gang causing the city of Boston quite a ruckus. I compare it to Eve online and I see some similarities between CODE and the Miners. It's a shame that I have asked to have this topic locked and look how far this debate has gone. There is a time for grabbing popcorn and watching this dispute to go way too far, If I were a member of ISD (I appreciate the hard work they do on the forums.) I would have locked this thread the moment I read the first request.
Maybe I should apply for ISD, I wonder if they're hiring at this time?
There is a little flag above each post where you can report things to the ISD.
I suggest you use it if you really think there is a problem as trolling for an ISD lock is rather unbecoming and probably against a rule somewhere.
But yes, to answer your question, I do think they are hiring. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1840
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:07:44 -
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KaKaR0TT goku NINC wrote:I don't know if you guys ever have seen "The Town" with Ben Affleck. A professional bank robbing gang causing the city of Boston quite a ruckus. I compare it to Eve online and I see some similarities between CODE and the Miners. It's a shame that I have asked to have this topic locked and look how far this debate has gone. There is a time for grabbing popcorn and watching this dispute to go way too far, If I were a member of ISD (I appreciate the hard work they do on the forums.) I would have locked this thread the moment I read the first request.
Maybe I should apply for ISD, I wonder if they're hiring at this time?
TL;DR: I was hoping for overwhelming support for whatever it was I posted. C&P citizens, I am disappoint.
Edit: typo.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs | New Order diplomat
"no one hates you, none of us care enough for that".
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Steppa Musana
Republic University Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:16:36 -
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This thread wonderfully highlights everything wrong with The New Order. It should be stickied just so new players can see the exact flaws of the group before potentially making the mistake of supporting them.
There is something called the "red pen list" which is historically used for players who viciously attack James or agents of the New Order. When you see a group of miners or mission runners rampantly insult the aforementioned parties, they are added to this list with a greater focus dealt against them. Many if not most are wardecced either by CODE or related entities.
Here we have a player Renegade who has done much of the same; essential calling out CODE as cowards and idiots. He is undocked at Amarr and other trade hubs almost daily and would thus be a viable target. They know this but they choose not to wardec him. Their excuse? He might fold up corp. We must ask ourselves: Does that make any sense? CODE throws away 60-80bil ISK each month on suicide ships. Surely the risk of spending 50mil to shoot down someone worthy of the "red pen list" should be considered pocket change. Let's consider something though. If you look through CODE wardecs, you will find most times they wardec a rebel or rebel group that is willing to shoot back, they get their butts handed to them.
So what are we left with here? CODE: - states those who persist in insulting agents and the New Order will be targetted more specifically. - spends more than 120x the cost of a wardec each month on suicide ships. - typically get roasted when wardeccing players that are willing to shoot back - announces a new wardec division and a player persists in insulting agents and the New Order. - decide to not wardec said player
Ask yourselves: Why won't they wardec him? If you are logical, reasonable and rational you know the answer. For those that don't fit that bill, I'll break it down simply for you: It's because they don't want him following them around, catching their stragglers and impededing their operations. They are scared of him. The great CODE alliance, creators of content, just as bad as any carebear. Cowards that limit their own content because they fear their opponent. This is to be expected though. The New Order are not after fun gameplay as much as they are after tears from their victims. The lack of wardec against PVP players not only supports the cowardly nature of the New Order but also supports the reasoned claim that they are griefers looking to enrage other players as a primary motive for their own entertainment. They know the random PVPer won't write a tearmail even if they do kill him. This only serves to double their motivation in not going after him.
This is post 1 of 2 in exposing CODE as carebears, cowards and deluded fools. In post 2 I will expose the audacity that is enforcing against "bot-aspirancy" against only miners and mission runners. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1840
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:48:52 -
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No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs | New Order diplomat
"no one hates you, none of us care enough for that".
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Alliria Seedspawn
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
100
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:00:34 -
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Steppa Musana wrote: ...The lack of wardec against PVP players not only supports the cowardly nature of the New Order but also supports the reasoned claim that they are griefers looking to enrage other players as a primary motive for their own entertainment.
The New Order of High Sec has no qualms with the PvP individuals in high sec, thus the lack of a need to target them. The New Order of High Sec is dedicated to the eradication of AFK "gameplay", which is most often seen by individuals that are mining, hauling, and missioning.
When we engage those brave few that are willing to stand up and fight against us, where does it say that it's only a New Order of High Sec win if we destroy all of the enemy ships? The New Order of High Sec is bigger than any one pilot. It's bigger than any KDR, which is evidenced by our killboard. It's bigger than individual engagements with enemy combatants.
When we, as Agents for the New Order of High Sec, get engaged by those that shoot back, we consider it a win regardless of which ships leave the battlefield. Win or lose by the value system of the small minded and egotistical sort that are obsessed with their own personal killboards, we sleep well at night knowing that the person in that other ship was not AFK. We sleep well knowing that we've helped to ensure one less bot in High Sec. We sleep well knowing that we've taken another step to ensure a better tomorrow for all!
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Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
27
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:31:32 -
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So unfortunately the responses to my post challanging code to put up or shut up were standard fare. Root says man up and do it yourself, and Pedro claims that they are not my personal police force so bacically do it myself. Here's the problem, neither in my post or posting history will you find claims to rid hi-sec of the scourge of botters. This is a standard code response when called out for not doing what they claim to do. Whenever someone meets a code agent for the first time the introduction usually begins similar to this: "hello Im an agent of the new order and I kill bots and bot aspirants" I've seen this many times and I'm sure many others have as well.
I've never claimed to kill bots. Bots are not my problem, they are ccp's problem. I dont work for ccp. They also seem to be codes problem but when called out code tells you to do it yourself.
Thanks to Pedro for linking the one incident of bot destruction that I referenced in my post. If code and the new order make it another two and a half years maybe another bot fleet will get destroyed.
You seem to have missed the point of this entire thread, OP asked for help identifying people that dont follow your rules, I pointed out some of the biggest violaters.
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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Cetaphil Thrace
The Back Yard Twilight Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:53:06 -
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The New Order of High Sec is dedicated to the eradication of AFK "gameplay", which is most often seen by individuals that are mining, hauling, and missioning.
Who AFK missions? |
Alliria Seedspawn
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
100
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:01:43 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote: ...You seem to have missed the point of this entire thread, OP asked for help identifying people that dont follow your rules, I pointed out some of the biggest violaters.
My apologies - I will go back and reread your report.
Tyyler DURden wrote:... I shall now bring something to your attention just as you asked in the start of this thread. Bots. Yes I said it. Bots. Huge giant bot fleets all over new eden. All you have to do is undock in virtually any kind of ship and if it is capable of spaceflight you should be able to navigate to an ice belt where you are sure to find....... bots.Real actual bots.
Some of these bot fleets are easy to identify due to the sequential naming schemes they have adopted. Others may require a bit more investigation...
Hmm...where is the actionable intel in this report? WHO are the bot-aspirants? WHAT group are they part of? WHERE specifically are the bot-aspirants? WHY do you think they are bot-aspirants? WHEN have you seen them active?
Unlike the general public, as Agents of the New Order of High Sec, we are not able to profile someone and take action simply based on what they mine. There is much more that goes into it then that - and rightfully so. We want to ensure that we're not targeting anyone that is indeed following the New Halaima Code of Conduct.
We have already received numerous legitimate reports as a result of the OP, and the Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec, in conjunction with CODE., have taken the appropriate steps for each report to date.
I would be happy to investigate your report further once it becomes based in fact, as opposed to your own prejudices towards ice miners. |
Revis Owen
64
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:15:25 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote: [rabblerabblerabble] You have the financial backing, tactical know-how and more then enough pilots to put a dent in these botters. [rabble]
If you are a smart capsuleer, you know that recalcitrant bot-aspirants can only be handled with anti-matter, but against bots we also have the resource of reporting them as a EULA violation.
If you are a smarter capsuleer, you understand the concept of prioritizing targets in a target-rich environment due to finite resources. I know we, the New Order, are very effective with the resources we have and so it does seem like we are everywhere with infinite resources. But in fact we have to deal with prioritizing finite resources just like everyone else does.
If you are an even smarter capsuleer, you then realize that the more we utilize the reporting system against botters, the more of our finite resources can be spread on bot-aspirants.
Now, you are an even smarter capsuleer after reading this, if you understand the economic concept presented.
Agent of the New Order
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html
If you do not have a current Highsec Operations Permit, please contact me for issuance.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
181
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:50:27 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote: You seem to have missed the point of this entire thread, OP asked for help identifying people that dont follow your rules, I pointed out some of the biggest violaters.
Well, then help identify them, not point in a vague general direction. Submit a report through the proper channels.
Don't come here and make some general "there be botters in them ice belts" contribution with no names or places. Who do you think are top priority for these wardecs, if not such bot-aspirants?
And we do destroy them, and I have no doubt this new wardec arm of the New Order will continue to this glorious tradition of exploding mining fleets, big and small, that are not Code-compliant.
But as I explained above, our mandate is to enforce the Code in all of highsec, and hold all citizens of James 315's space to account for a better future for everyone. We are not a tool for you to clear your ice belts of your competition. Now it is true, that these two goals may align in some cases, so that is the purpose of this thread - sharing actionable intelligence with the New Order of non-compliant behaviour in highsec. |
Haedonism Bot
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1541
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:52:00 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote:I'm gonna help out the OP and at the same time help get this thread back on the right track. I shall now bring something to your attention just as you asked in the start of this thread. Bots. Yes I said it. Bots. Huge giant bot fleets all over new eden. All you have to do is undock in virtually any kind of ship and if it is capable of spaceflight you should be able to navigate to an ice belt where you are sure to find....... bots.Real actual bots.
Some of these bot fleets are easy to identify due to the sequential naming schemes they have adopted. Others may require a bit more investigation. Apparently your boss James 315 has eyes and ears everywhere, so its possible you already know who these bots are.
Maybe its time to give the month old retriever pilots, pods, shuttles and empty freighters a break for the time being and actually do what your self-appointed mandate calls for you to do. Besides the recent proc fleet being bombed to smithereens it seems like the campaign to rid new eden of actual botting players gets put on the back burner in favor of tear collecting and the other assorted villany that code and its associates are accused of on a daily basis.
I believe I can speak for more then a few citizens of hi-sec when I say we are ready to see if you can put your money where your mouth is and do the job you claim to be doing. You have the financial backing, tactical know-how and more then enough pilots to put a dent in these botters.What more do you need?
The code always wins, right? So what have you got to lose?
While I appreciate your input, CODE has been combating botters from the beginning, continues to do so today, and will do so until the end. If you have a more specific target in mind then let us know and we will see what we can do.
Some sorts of bots we are cool with though. Like Hedonism Bots (I hope).
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs
www.everevolutioanryfront.blogspot.com
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lordribble Auduin
Strategic Fighters Association
0
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:08:52 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted. But you just admitted that you had no permit, so you are clearly guilty. I recommend you contact your local New Order Agent and purchase one immediately. Guilty of what exactly? Violating the Code by mining without a permit in highsec obviously. Read all about it at www.minerbumping.com Where I mine, Amarr owns sovereignty and therefore sets the laws of the area. I undock and don't die to the local police and therefore I must be acting within their laws. You however trigger a police response enforcing your law in someone elses soverignty (namely 0.5 security systems and above, policed by CONCORD). I will not follow the laws set by CODE and I hope many others wont. You are no more than thugs and deserve to be treated as such.
I agree with you 100%. I have never bought a permit. I shall never buy one. I have a small corp of miners on my alt that is anti code.we mine high sec ever day. So code shall not rule us. If we see code on roams I shoot on site and ask questions later. |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
181
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:10:59 -
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lordribble Auduin wrote: I agree with you 100%. I have never bought a permit. I shall never buy one. I have a small corp of miners on my alt that is anti code.we mine high sec ever day. So code shall not rule us. If we see code on roams I shoot on site and ask questions later.
I am curious, what questions do you typically ask after these incidents? |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
181
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:23:28 -
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Steppa Musana wrote: Ask yourselves: Why won't they wardec him? If you are logical, reasonable and rational you know the answer. For those that don't fit that bill, I'll break it down simply for you: It's because they don't want him following them around, catching their stragglers and impededing their operations. They are scared of him. The great CODE alliance, creators of content, just as bad as any carebear. Cowards that limit their own content because they fear their opponent.
So your main argument is that because CODE. has sufficient resources, it should wardec a 1-man (ok, 3-man) self-proclaimed rebel corporation because he asked for it? And if they choose not to do so, you conclude it is because they are scared?
It seems to me unlikely that the "fear" of having a single additional pilot gunning for them, above the dozens perhaps, hundreds of pilots that are already in a wardec with the CODE. alliance is of any consequence. Isn't it more logical and rational that those resources are better spent wardeccing a larger, non-compliant corporation, than squandered on the pointless wardec of single player corporation, whose credentials as "a rebel" are dubious at best?
But this is all really off topic. Perhaps you know of some real rebels that are worthy of a wardec? |
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