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Saiden Dia
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Posted - 2014.11.06 23:07:25 -
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Older plays leaving is less of a concern for me than older players remaining that do nothing but spew their bitterness. It has such a negative effect on the community. That sort of older player should leave. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2508
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Posted - 2014.11.07 01:39:20 -
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I am surprised there aren't anniversary rewards for vets.
Here almost 11 years and for me once the pleasure hubs left the game hard to stay motivated... |
Raven Hyperbollic
Prowlers
2
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Posted - 2014.11.10 20:14:47 -
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The thing is with EVE there is so many activities you can do if you get bored of one you can do another.
I find after a few weeks the thing I got bored with I start to do again.
What am I doing at the moment, well I'm siphoning moons from the big alliances and plan to 'try' and make t2 components out of it.
Oh, if you see me in local check your moons |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
831
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Posted - 2014.11.10 20:29:08 -
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Fire Greyscale for starters.
Not today spaghetti.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
721
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Posted - 2014.11.10 21:14:40 -
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I think that the best way to hold on to more seasoned players is to simply remind them that there is a lot to do in EvE. When I came back after a few years away, I had done the whole nullsec coalition war thing and ran hisec missions until I was bored to tears and wasn't looking forward to either of them again. With that in mind, I decided to try my hand at as many different activities as I reasonably could. In 6-ish months I've tried (in no particular order):
1. Exploration and hacking. 2. Research and industry. 3. Planetary Interaction. 4. Hisec wardecs. 5. Bounty hunting. 6. Suicide ganking. 7. Running a POS. 8. Going through the tutorial missions on a new character.
I've learned a lot in that time and now understand that I could never, ever, get bored with all of EvE.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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Code Redd
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.11.11 06:29:50 -
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Suppose i'm writing this from the wrong character, but i have been playing since april 2004. Main has 180m SP, guess that's old.
Why dont i play much?
1. Because little children run nullsec. If you want to go there to pvp, you HAVE to fly a capital, or fly really awful fits designed for low-skill nubs to blob with. There are a hundred other problems with this area of space for people with too many skills. I dont want to move to null.
2. The biggest thing for me, is the cost of clones. I dont really enjoy PvP because i really hate the idea of having to pay 40, or 60m for a naked clone. They're fixing this soon, it will make a HUGE difference.
3. also VERY critical, is that they have teiricided and balanced the living hell out of everything. It really, now, makes absolutely no difference what race you fly, or what ship you fly--they all have about the same dps. This is SO true, that the flycatcher, corax, harpy (or is it hawk?), ALL have the exact same dps (think they upped the catcher a little recently). The same is true of the navy scorp, golem, etc) ... it's virtually the same with all the other little ships. ..... so there is literally no reason, besides choosing which color you want your ship, or what type of ecm bonus you want, to fly one ship over the other. I can fly them all, i literally cant decide what ship to fly anymore, because it makes NO DIFFERENCE.
4. They have removed most of the things i sunk a lot of skills into, for me, this is science and industry... This means--invention dumb-down, ME/PE evening-out, etc. Seems like a huge waste of my time, and therefore i dont do it anymore. My alts with 3 weeks training are JUST as effective as my main with 40m SP's in science and industry. This is also true of the datacore/R&D agent nerf.
5. Most corps to join are small and not very nice. They try to do too much (look at how all of them want to go to null, that's pathetic). Mining corps are essentially run by one guy getting rich off buying cheap minerals... It's no fun recruiting.
6. If i go do things with other people, they sometimes feel so bad about their skills in comparison to mine, that they quit. I have literally gone out to help a guy do a lvl 4 in my mission ship--and had him rage-quit/unsub that day. This doesnt happen often, but variations of it do... The most annoying is probably being able to fly something, or fit something (all ship skills to 5, all t2 ships to 5, all fitting skills to 5, even all t2 gun specs to 5), and they just cannot fly a comparable fit--i dont fit into fleet fights well--there's just something 'off' about a guy in a cormorant hitting out to 133k, when everyone else musters 78.
i could really go on and on about this, but for me, it's the horrible way nullsec is run, the cost of clones, and the blandness/sameness of all the ships. THOSE are the key things for me. Corps can be great if you find one that's great (my main has), and dumbing down my ships is hard, but can be enjoyable with the right people.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
412
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Posted - 2014.11.11 07:09:14 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:We haven't had a vet station discussion for a while.
Maybe CCP will erect the vet station in a wormhole and everyone can live happily ever after.
What does a vet station actually achieve? If I wanted to segregate myself from the wider playerbase I'd just get a capital and fly in null again. Suddenly elite pvp and no subcaps allowed.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346
LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing
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Josef Djugashvilis
2657
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:09:35 -
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How to hold old players?
Gently, is always good.
This is not a signature.
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13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2014.11.11 09:03:26 -
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How about dont try to hold old players if they've lost interst in the game? Your goal shouldn't be holding out carrots to prolong a relationship that's already over. That goes for any games as well. If they can't find the game fun anymore or cant generate their own fun, then they should move on, and no carrot is big enough to make them feel glad they've come back.
[quote] So 50 retreivers and 1 ganker walk into a bar, and the ganker turns to all the retreivers and says "I know how to play this game, you're wrong, now give me your money and then let me blow you up". That's the joke. [/quote]
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:37:50 -
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The old vets love talking about how they don't log in and haven't spent money on the game in years and have no need to.
I see no reason to hold them, they bring nothing to the table.
Keeping the game stagnant for these bitter vets has gone on long enough.
Time to move on CCP.
Adapt or leave just like the new players have to. |
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Jack dannels
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.12 01:29:53 -
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hum april 2004 here and still going granted I take off for spells of 6-9 months now but I am still here Did sell my main though so just this low lvl sp char to play with |
Inzax
74
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:12:46 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:I am surprised there aren't anniversary rewards for vets. Here almost 11 years and for me once the pleasure hubs left the game hard to stay motivated...
New Belgium Brewing provides a 12 pack a week for employees.
After one year you get a sweet bike
Five years the owner takes you on a tour of Belgium brew houses....on your bike.
After 10 years you get a four week sabbatical.
It would be interesting to mark anniversary dates based on longevity.
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Gaan Cathal
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
34
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:24:32 -
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"How to hold old players?"
Apparently the answer to that was "Pheobe". |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10575
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:32:09 -
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Inzax wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I am surprised there aren't anniversary rewards for vets. Here almost 11 years and for me once the pleasure hubs left the game hard to stay motivated... New Belgium Brewing provides a 12 pack a week for employees. After one year you get a sweet bike Five years the owner takes you on a tour of Belgium brew houses....on your bike. After 10 years you get a four week sabbatical. It would be interesting to mark anniversary dates based on longevity.
What they don't tell you is that after 20 years, you become part of the recipe...
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8982
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:35:01 -
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The way to 'hold' old players is for ccp to keep making a quality game an not obsess as much about it (or getting 'new players') as people on these forums do. |
thowlimer
Roprocor Ltd
17
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:53:09 -
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In my case it's very simple, just give me some way to increase the fonts properly(and no the 13 and ui scaling does not even come close), getting older my eyesight is probably the one thing that makes me get the most annoyed with EVE.
As for actually playing the game, as long as you are willing to change and try new things i doubt you will ever run out of things to do, the main burnout factor is when you focus to much on a single thing and play that into the ground.
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Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.11.12 14:00:43 -
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i dont think its the game that fails to hold old players short breaks every now and then does wonders, but you will always lose a good 50% of your older players as they "grow up" not in the sense that they were childish or in fact we are childish but in the fact they get married and have children.
eve is a very time demanding game it takes time to do just about anything in eve, and time is a commodity which decreases when you start a normal family life
you have less time to play which restricts you to what you can do, like running a freighter 20 jumps and back takes a very long time and a lot of people can only play for maybe a hour or 2 a day.
time restrictions gets to the point where its almost impossible to play enough in a month to afford a plex to plex your account as well as cover costs of running the toons (ships/mods/ect) and for such a short amount of time played on top of how expensive it is to raise children its hard to justify paying a sub fee
eve is a great game it just requires a lot of spare time to play effectively and that is its biggest downfall |
Ayx Shewma
0scope Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
65
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Posted - 2014.11.12 15:02:19 -
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Inzax wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I am surprised there aren't anniversary rewards for vets. Here almost 11 years and for me once the pleasure hubs left the game hard to stay motivated... New Belgium Brewing provides a 12 pack a week for employees. After one year you get a sweet bike Five years the owner takes you on a tour of Belgium brew houses....on your bike. After 10 years you get a four week sabbatical. It would be interesting to mark anniversary dates based on longevity.
Probably, if you worked for CCP, instead of them working for you, you'd get these things.
You're playing a game, not doing a job.
kids these days...
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Inzax
74
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:50:25 -
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Yes, because I was actually talking about getting a trip from CCP.
Rewarding longevity is not crazy. |
Cypher Decypher
Flowery Twats
36
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:36:14 -
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Read up about Thera.
Then try and complain about new content.
I've been knocking about Eve for 8 years and it's been through some rough patches. Enough to stop me playing for months at a time.
But CCP have come alive, in my humble opinion. They've tried - and achieved - more in the last twelve months than since Apocrypha.
And now Thera.
Very, very interesting times on the horizon for bsp's.
Edit: big skilled pilots |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17601
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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:22:35 -
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Oxylan wrote:How to hold old players?
Personally, id put my arms around them from behind, maybe nuzzle their neck a little if im in the mood, if it leads to some quality spooning later on, then I guess im game.
Although my cat plays Eve quite a bit while Im at work, so she qualifies as a player, although shes only 5.. so how old is that in cat years..?. I usually wait until she crawls up on my lap, then I cradle her like a baby, then I grab her by both her front legs and both her back legs and carry her around head hunter style until she gets all growly.. then I put her down, and scratch her right by her tail. She goes into this uncontrollable licking fit when I do that.. and then she growls at me when I keep doing it.. but its all Growl-owl-owl-owl-owl-owl-owl kinda like a turkey warbling. Its freakin adorable. She will ignore me for about 20 minutes.. then we rinse and repeat. Then later on at night, if ive antagonized her enough.. ill get the kitty cat hotdrop around 2:30am.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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