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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
220
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:19:29 -
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I just don't get the point of it at all. I really don't.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
16
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:35:42 -
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I have always wanted a compass, but it's annoying in it's current form. I need a compass to reference for other players.
EXAMPLE
Toon1: The enemy ship just cloaked. He is heading at 117-¦ with a 40-¦ climb.
Toon2: I'm cloaked at your si o'clock position. and positioning to drop a bomb on the cloaked ship.
EXAMPLE 2 (In deadspace - No Warping)
Toon1: Enemy is in a fast moving ship at 20-¦, about 1200 Km away and moving at 3000 m/s.
Toon2: Roger that, I am in pursuit at 20-¦ at 5300 m/s. I should catch him in a few minutes. I can hold him at that point, or engage.
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shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins The Kadeshi
23
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:20:12 -
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i like the **** in space but the compass suck because it show every thing which just make it useless i can disable stuff on the compass ye but that will then also remove the stuff in space so fix the compass in some way because the way it is now it suck here you go 50 lines pointing some where
some thing like i want only my book mark shown on the compass you cant do that with out disable every thing else but i will like to keep every thing else in space why is compass and the space thing not a separated thing or at lest an option for it ? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:46:04 -
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shimiku wrote:i like the **** in space but the compass suck because it show every thing which just make it useless i can disable stuff on the compass ye but that will then also remove the stuff in space so fix the compass in some way because the way it is now it suck here you go 50 lines pointing some where
some thing like i want only my book mark shown on the compass you cant do that with out disable every thing else but i will like to keep every thing else in space why is compass and the space thing not a separated thing or at lest an option for it ? That's what the original post is about. I doubt it'll be fixed, though. It seems to always be the way:
'Here, have a new feature!' 'That feature could do with some improvement' 'But then we'd have to develop it more! What are you, insane?' |
Moraguth
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
124
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Posted - 2014.11.17 10:48:08 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Not to put too fine a point on it, but this comes down to those that use their bookmarks for combat purposes and those that don't. Simply put, if you don't use them for tactical jumps in a combat situation the compass isn't as useful to you.
Combine that with a general lack of understanding about how to use the compass in the first place (indicators of what is above/below your current plane render 2d/3d arguments moot) and ignorance of the fact that most of EVE is laid out on a generally flat plane (as most solar systems are) and the end result is this thread.
Frankly, if the compass had been in EVE since day 1 you would simply accept it as a normal and necessary part of the UI and be outraged if it was removed... and if you think about it really hard you would realize there are a dozen other features of the EVE UI you see every day but rarely (if ever) make use of in your chosen profession.
To be fair though.... remember when eve had the sonar/compas blue thingy in the lower right corner? I feel like it was slightly more useful than the current compass around the HUD we have today.
I got a Feature Added!
Stop calling an Abaddon "abba-dawn". It is "uh-bad-in"
dictionary.com/abaddon
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Ling Noy
Running with Dogs Nerfed Alliance Go Away
3
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Posted - 2014.11.17 11:30:30 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Hallvardr wrote:i can't believe no one has noticed this .. and someone on page one or two challenged someone to point out where it makes it easier to find anything .. Look at the compass. Now look back at me. Now look at the compass again ( ) Notice the ring that runs around the inside of the compass area ? That is the zero galactic plane. A dot above the line will indicate that the object is above the zero plane. A dot below .. thats right .. below the galactic plane. Find something in space .. I don't care, point at it and pitch the nose of your ship fully up and then fully down while watching the dot. Notice how it moves vertically ? There is your "Z" indicator. There is how to find something quickly w/o having to spin in circles pointed down, then neutral, then up just to find something visually in space. And to all the "its annoying", "I don't want it", or "its not useful". Don't look at it. Don't use it then. Ignore it .. holy crap. *Sigh. It's not about a lack of understanding of the feature. It's about the sensor overlay visibility being linked to the compass. It's asking for BiS without also making your HUD a jumble of incomprehensible white marks. You can turn off the compass marks, sure. But that doesn't solve the issue. I'm hoping you're the last person who misses the point. Because this thread is not about removing the feature.
Le sigh, my 2 Screens are too much distraction, can I please remove one of the Screens so I am not getting distracted too much? Sorry, I couldn-¦t resist but the "compass" is nothing to be honest. Try out tactical overlays or even civilian in a plane and come back with "too much distraction". The compass is nothing. |
13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2014.11.22 02:39:22 -
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Ling Noy wrote:Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Hallvardr wrote:i can't believe no one has noticed this .. and someone on page one or two challenged someone to point out where it makes it easier to find anything .. Look at the compass. Now look back at me. Now look at the compass again ( ) Notice the ring that runs around the inside of the compass area ? That is the zero galactic plane. A dot above the line will indicate that the object is above the zero plane. A dot below .. thats right .. below the galactic plane. Find something in space .. I don't care, point at it and pitch the nose of your ship fully up and then fully down while watching the dot. Notice how it moves vertically ? There is your "Z" indicator. There is how to find something quickly w/o having to spin in circles pointed down, then neutral, then up just to find something visually in space. And to all the "its annoying", "I don't want it", or "its not useful". Don't look at it. Don't use it then. Ignore it .. holy crap. *Sigh. It's not about a lack of understanding of the feature. It's about the sensor overlay visibility being linked to the compass. It's asking for BiS without also making your HUD a jumble of incomprehensible white marks. You can turn off the compass marks, sure. But that doesn't solve the issue. I'm hoping you're the last person who misses the point. Because this thread is not about removing the feature. Le sigh, my 2 Screens are too much distraction, can I please remove one of the Screens so I am not getting distracted too much? Sorry, I couldn-¦t resist but the "compass" is nothing to be honest. Try out tactical overlays or even civilian in a plane and come back with "too much distraction". The compass is nothing.
because necessary tools are exactly the same as superfluous bells and whistles that don't really do anything. you can come back when news tickers for stocks, the weather, and your daily horoscope are flashing across those tactical overlays.
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
518
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Posted - 2014.11.22 03:18:22 -
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I have no use for the compass and already ignore it. I had to think pretty hard to realise what the OP was talking about.
Main thing I do not like is various anoms like mining ones being easy to warp points. Should have to scan those down. They were a little safer than belts.
More of CCP serving up victims and easy kills. So lame.
Ideas & stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down.
Status: Bouncing on the diving board.
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
655
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Posted - 2014.11.22 04:08:53 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:... tactical jumps in a combat situation... Tell us more about how the compass is useful for tactical jumping. How many bookmarks do you make when leading a fleet Princess?
You know what PVP fleets really love? Fleetmates that mix up the word "warp" with "jump".
BMs are very useful in a "combat situation"...to WARP to. NOT to JUMP to.
I have no choice but to conclude that people who call warping jumping like you did have more hours logged watching BSG than PVPing on Eve.
http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
199
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Posted - 2014.11.24 08:49:17 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I have no use for the compass and already ignore it. I had to think pretty hard to realise what the OP was talking about. Main thing I do not like is various anoms like mining ones being easy to warp points. Should have to scan those down. They were a little safer than belts. More of CCP serving up victims and easy kills. So lame.
I actually quite like the compass, but I agree with you about the amoms.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
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Jenshae Chiroptera
528
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Posted - 2014.11.24 10:36:14 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote: I actually quite like the compass, but I agree with you about the amoms.
Two days later in a busy forum. You sir are what keeps good thread and posts alive o7
Ideas & stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down.
Status: Bouncing on the diving board.
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
135
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:17:28 -
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First virtual world problems. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1338
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:48:36 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:What if the experience is something which is not embraced by users due to the design being flawed (see Windows 8)? Too late, you already paid for your suscription and you can't go back to EVE2003.
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
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Ilaister
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
127
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Posted - 2014.11.24 20:27:39 -
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OP had it right. Compass is about spatial awareness, not your ablility to 'zero in' on some dude at a particular anom, or sig. It's super useful, especially in W space.
Am I on the outside of the system? Inner? Is the system scoured clean of anything I would find interesting (customised as I can switch on/off what I do, or do not find interesting) and therefore occupied? Or is it a cornucopia of unexploited content?
Regardless of my position in-system, are all the interesting features at the outer edges of the system, or inner? At one particular planet my d-scan tells me also has several bubbles nearby, or hostile ships, or combat probes? Are they near the POS I have bookmarked already? Where are they in relation to my corpie, who's sat 20AU away and can relate information back to me far more clearly now he has both a non-relativistic direction to refer to based on his compass and mine?
Do I need to warp out soon? Perhaps I should start pointing my hull at the same direction everything in system that's warpable actually is. Oh, you used to use an overview for that so you can warp to POCOS at zero and get podded when you land on it and get decloaked? Welcome to the era in which visual information is a higher priority for devs improving a game at which detractors often point to 'excel/DB in space' than what shows up in a table on the top-right of your screen in text format.
Compass gives you a gentle nudge to solving or avoiding all these problems at a glance. Actually not even -out the corner of your eye. No 'Map / Toggle to Solar System not Galactic / Zoom In / Orient camera / Panic as new entity hits your grid on overview and all you can see is black space and white circles on your solar system map' etc etc.
The whinging from Eve players who want it 'as it was before' and blame devs for their inability to see the wood for the trees is really becoming tiresome. Especially when they throw in their half-baked pseud I-know-better-than-the-paid-and-qualified-employees code nonsense.
Too many anoms? Turn those off or try jumping out the system that's upgraded past the point you never actually need to jump out because all you do in game is AKFtar at forsaken hubs. Too many sigs? If you're not interested in sigs, switch them off. Too many mission markers? Stop missioning, you are bad at the game.
How a 10 pixel wide circle of coloured dots is a detriment to half a dozen users' experience or is therefore worthy of dev time to switch off, I will never know.
ADAPT. Or pls stop whining. Either would be nice. |
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