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Jackie Cane
Chaos Gate
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Posted - 2014.11.21 06:47:16 -
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Uummm.... well if I can put the old neocom icons back i guess I won't start screaming profanity at my computer screen. |
Hollow PANZER1233000
Space Alliance of Manufacturers Northern Associates.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.21 07:16:53 -
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GIVE ME KEY BACK OLD UI
I dont like play in stupid windows 8!!! |
St Lamarque
Dusk Mirror
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Posted - 2014.11.21 11:54:08 -
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Malou Hashur wrote:You all realise that there is absolutely no point in posting anything further in this thread ?
That is why I have only 1 time expressed their negative opinion. It was immediately clear that the devs do not pay attention to the feedback, which is not endorse the new UI. |
Kej Lacitis
Mining Production and Science Shadow of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2014.11.21 12:16:51 -
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Dear CCPs, Please, do not change Aura`s icon. Thank you. |
Winter Unicorn
Requiem For Freedom
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Posted - 2014.11.21 12:20:42 -
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New interface icons are very ugly in comparison with the old ones.
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X4me1eoH
Battletech Technology
157
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:46:47 -
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Return RGB settings !!!! |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:40:43 -
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Vigilanta wrote:looks cool, but one question. If we prefer the old UI, will we be able to choose to use the old one instead? I remind you of like every other time we have been forced in to the mandatory upgrade and what has resulted.
Oh you mean like Dec '05 when they changed the font and many of us couldn't read anything.
That was 7 years of closed account. WOD is nice though. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:31:44 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:COMM4NDER wrote:Please please also have a look on performance! Currently even small things like chat blink can drop FPS by quite a notch and hiding UI improves it like night and day so please consider performance.
Other than that it looks really nice, gonna try this out in wine asap. Performance testing is happening as you type. We are very conscious of making these changes and that not all players are running quad sli titans. We will be striving to have the best possible performance for min spec machines.
Probably should have thought of that when you did the stargate animation. This game engine isn't exactly optimized for animations. |
13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2014.11.22 02:42:41 -
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Don't ruin the sidebar by jumping on the simple-simpleton 2D grayscale bandwagon just because other well known systems are doing it. Some people like the feel of the colorful 3D objects.
Arsine Mayhem wrote:CCP Claymore wrote:COMM4NDER wrote:Please please also have a look on performance! Currently even small things like chat blink can drop FPS by quite a notch and hiding UI improves it like night and day so please consider performance.
Other than that it looks really nice, gonna try this out in wine asap. Performance testing is happening as you type. We are very conscious of making these changes and that not all players are running quad sli titans. We will be striving to have the best possible performance for min spec machines. Probably should have thought of that when you did the stargate animation. This game engine isn't exactly optimized for animations.
It's strange to me how little rendering is actually on screen polygon wise, and yet performance is worse than WoW. My machine can barely play Eve as it is, and it was an upgrade from the machine that could play the old client of eve before they axed dual-clients for the "new and improved" one. Yeah, not improved performance wise.
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium
137
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Posted - 2014.11.22 21:44:37 -
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1. These new colorsets are terrible for colorblind people. 2. This is pretty much the "illusion of choice". Give me the slider back please. I don't like being forced to choose presets. 3. I don't like the 'always fade to transparent", i want to see all my text windows as they currently are
All in all, I don't like this. Sure, the client is more crisp and clean but the icons are monocolored (which I find to be bland compared to the previous edition) and I can't have crazy awesome UI colors anymore.
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
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Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
274
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Posted - 2014.11.23 02:22:06 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Antoine Jordan wrote:From the screenshot and gif, I love most of the changes, but abhor the blur. I would much prefer only transparency modification, with no blurring whatsoever. It's distracting, and takes away from the crispness that I've come to think of as a hallmark of EVE graphics. The blur can be disabled with a graphics setting. Yes but that setting also makes icons in the neocom harder to distinguish as the background becomes, well, transparent.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
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Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
353
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Posted - 2014.11.23 04:03:02 -
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Overall the new UI Looks good, however the blurred Window thing is very bad on the eyes. As an industrialist, it is not uncommon for me to have most of my screen covered in windows, to the point that probably less than 1/9th of the space scene is actually visible, and my eyes end up trying to focus on the majority of the screen with is blurred/Out of Focus
!!! There needs to be options for turning off the blur. !!!
Also been a few days since I was testing it out, (currently at Eve Down Under), but the highlights for the black pre-set seemed too bright, needs a Dark Gray instead of bright nearly White/Grey |
Hallvardr
40
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Posted - 2014.11.24 00:35:57 -
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I've tried. I've really tried to adjust to the blue .. monochromatic UI buttons and they just leave me with a bad impression.
The pretense that the human mind can more quickly identify monochromatic icons over colored ones is bollocks. I can find no such studies that substantiate these claims. And in fact to the contrary.
Change for the sake of change is not necessarily a good thing and can often have negative results with users.
After days and days of interacting with the new UI on SISI, I've (re)learned which icons are which. but my opinion still stands .. they're dry and lifeless and there was no call or reason to be changing them.
This is my opinion for what its worth and given the fact that CCP will do what CCP wants to do. I feel that a single voice won't change the course of their design teams, ( HiRez texture threadnaught ) but I had to place my vote next to others in hopes that it might.
Would be nice to see a "vote function" on the forums .. be interesting to not only see the outcomes of popular issues like this but also CCP's reactions or lack thereof. |
Hallvardr
40
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Posted - 2014.11.24 01:01:11 -
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Hollow PANZER1233000 wrote:GIVE ME [option] KEY BACK [to] OLD UI I don't like [to] play in stupid windows 8!!! .... never truer words have been typed. (ok so I had to edit a bit)
I am SO sick and tired of this freaking Android minimalistic card, Win8 metro, created by a 6 year old with crayola crayons and a sheet of construction paper UI's that programmers are pushing on us. Its just an excuse for lazy and shows ZERO creativity. And damm .. blue . that is so over used!
The Emperor's New Clothes - I'm not buying it .. its looks cheap and lifeless. |
Khendon Kalmire
POD Based Lifeforms The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.24 04:50:31 -
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Hollow PANZER1233000 wrote:GIVE ME KEY BACK OLD UI I dont like play in stupid windows 8!!! exactly. new UI looks awful |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
568
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Posted - 2014.11.24 10:30:12 -
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Since CCP is chasing after "new players", perhaps these new players will feel right at home with these changes since that is what they use daily on their smart phones, tablets, and other portable devices.
/me has a dumb phone - two cups and a string for poor reception at best. |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
277
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Posted - 2014.11.24 10:51:17 -
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Hallvardr wrote:Hollow PANZER1233000 wrote:GIVE ME [option] KEY BACK [to] OLD UI I don't like [to] play in stupid windows 8!!! .... never truer words have been typed. (ok so I had to edit a bit) I am SO sick and tired of this freaking Android minimalistic card, Win8 metro, created by a 6 year old with crayola crayons and a sheet of construction paper UI's that programmers are pushing on us. Its just an excuse for lazy and shows ZERO creativity. And damm .. blue . that is so over used! The Emperor's New Clothes - I'm not buying it .. its looks cheap and lifeless.
No, it doesn't look cheap and lifeless. Minimalism is clear, highly usable and efficient, born out of decades of UI development. Flat UIs are not a design fad, they are natural evolution and a welcome departure from faux 3D and superfluous gimmicks. |
Hollow PANZER1233000
Space Alliance of Manufacturers
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:31:58 -
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Khendon Kalmire wrote:Hollow PANZER1233000 wrote:GIVE ME KEY BACK OLD UI I dont like play in stupid windows 8!!! exactly. new UI looks awful
LOOK AT THIS!!! Aura die
http://i.imgur.com/D58DvOt.png
Give me fire extinguisher my ass in flames!!! |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25595
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:39:22 -
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Aang? is that you
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Twitter |-ámk.III | Imgur
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Hollow PANZER1233000
Space Alliance of Manufacturers
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:48:36 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:Hallvardr wrote:Hollow PANZER1233000 wrote:GIVE ME [option] KEY BACK [to] OLD UI I don't like [to] play in stupid windows 8!!! .... never truer words have been typed. (ok so I had to edit a bit) I am SO sick and tired of this freaking Android minimalistic card, Win8 metro, created by a 6 year old with crayola crayons and a sheet of construction paper UI's that programmers are pushing on us. Its just an excuse for lazy and shows ZERO creativity. And damm .. blue . that is so over used! The Emperor's New Clothes - I'm not buying it .. its looks cheap and lifeless. No, it doesn't look cheap and lifeless. Minimalism is clear, highly usable and efficient, born out of decades of UI development. Flat UIs are not a design fad, they are natural evolution and a welcome departure from faux 3D and superfluous gimmicks.
So why CCP take my money for exel UI?
Maybe give me this?
http://hussars-online.ru/4images/data/media/15/wtf_nostalgia.png
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Donima
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:40:16 -
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You want to make one of the largest and longest awaited changes to EVE's UI. Implement a damn switch character button on the escape menu that takes you back to the character select screen instead of us always having to quit game and boot it right back up from the launcher again just to get to a different character.
Many MMO's already have this feature the day they come out. So why is it that EVE doesn't yet?
In Summary: Just 3 words... Switch Character Button. |
Nolan Kotulan
50
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:56:52 -
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Hallvardr wrote:After days and days of interacting with the new UI on SISI, I've (re)learned which icons are which. but my opinion still stands .. they're dry and lifeless and there was no call or reason to be changing them.
There is at the minimum one good enough reason for a 2014 game to make these changes: vector graphics, period.
Now, is the actual design good? That is another question, and I would say "no, absolutly not, for sure!"... |
FaZ3r
Friends of Honor Out of Sight.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.24 19:01:22 -
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I can understand the need for evolution but:
1. The new icons are hard to understand as they are not suggestive enough. 2. The icons graphic needs to be more alive and not brought down to a so called theme. 3. The names on the overview tabs are light chars on light background...not a good choice.
Like others said, i hope there will be a possibility to choose between old or new theme & icons.
Thx. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
1963
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Posted - 2014.11.24 22:45:24 -
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Seems like it's just aesthetic changes... First the mechanics and tools of the User Interface should be improved and expanded on and later colour schemes can be mucked around with.
Where is the picture-in-picture view and the improved tactical overlay that was talked about so many fanfests ago?
+1
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Hallvardr
40
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Posted - 2014.11.25 04:03:07 -
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"Minimalism is clear, highly usable and efficient, born out of decades of UI development"
okay - you've convinced me .. won me over.. NOT.
I don't care what affectations you put to it .. it sucketh.
And I'm not talking about "fake wood grain trim on a car". There is nothing wrong with the current iconic depiction of functions that CCP has in game. I've seen no requests for flat, monochromatic, lifeless icons because its easier to select. really ?? ... at night but NOT last night !
And yes .. like everything flat and cheap, its a fad.
But alas I fear that the decision has already been made for whatever reasons and all this is just palaver. |
Skira Noza
Skira Noza Tax Free Corporation
12
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:48:55 -
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Please add option to disable any transparency. It is very important for traders, because traders are working lot with windows and transparency is more load on eyes. |
Leorajev Aubaris
Blue Goat Ltd.
14
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:18:36 -
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As a follow up on my previous post to this thread: today I saw in an old elevator what I meant with retro button design. Here's a side by side of the elevator buttons with the "new UI" buttons: http://imgur.com/EqPblG3 There you go. Sorry for the bad quality I only had my mobile at hand... |
Flaarn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:57:14 -
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So, don't forget about those of us playing in Quad HD. The resolution is awesome, but UIs seem to suffer in these early days. Text needs to be bigger without compromising the graphics or other bitmapped UI elements.
With more people running in Quad HD, it would be something to think about.
Thanks,
Flaarn |
Kerrat Braban
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:09:21 -
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my 2cents
I read the first 20 pages, and most points I have were already mentioned before.
Generally I like where this is going, even if it's not a huge step and needs more tuning. But many small steps also get us somewhere :)
What I'd like to see as improvements:
- Neocom and Station Icons need a little bit of color for easier differentiation, as they are now they're bland and boring (but the iLife generation will probably love them) - More scaleable UI and/or font sizing, 90%/100%/110%/125% is not enough - Adaptive transparency that darkens the window when for example a sun is behind it? If that should already be the case - didn't work well on Sisi, overview was unreadable with light behind it.
And points a share with BlitZ Kotare - Pinning (make them unmovable) of windows WITHOUT making them more transparent (that's why the current setting doesn't cut it). I want to fix my windows so they don't get moved if I don't hit the very slim scroll bar correctly. - Save/Load of screen layouts and Lord Maldorors suggestion of hotkey switching between layouts - Function to let me position all screen elements (like messages positioning) whenever I like, why do I have to target stuff to be able to move the lock icons? Get a WoW trial and check out how they did it , it's the one thing they did really better :)
And one point that someone else - don't remember who, sorry - mentionend, augmented reality! What if we'd for example get information popping up for close or selected objects. Say you're close to 2 roids, show the type, mass and distance. Select that far away bogey? Display shiptype, distance, speed, angualar velocity and whatnot. Same if you're in a dogfight, maybe show info for all locked and selected targets, on screen, maybe with a small underline that's dragged to the object? now THAT would be a HUGE STEP FORWARD. |
Killian Skoff
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:06:09 -
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New UI looks awful, why the hell CCP pays salary to guys whom do this? |
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