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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:47:12 -
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To be clear about the monochrome icon thing. Its not that all icons are harder to distinguish, its that some of them look so similar that even without color, our brains cannot quickly enough tell the difference.
These icons in particular: http://i.gyazo.com/e36e6691c956dbfc5ab9e95a0ae04a2d.png
That's just my opinion but maybe you could make their shape more distinct then.
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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
145
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:47:18 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Cupi222 wrote:Hello. At first look the color's look nice, but may i suggest that you add this somewere in settings! To make it posible for everyone to choose if they want the new look, the old look, or maybe a red/green/orange menu etc.
There are some preset colors to try out instead of blue though. Let us know what you think. A red style based on the blue style would be nice, The minmatar is a bit to light for me so a dark red one.
While presets are nice, would it be possible to have own customized pallete's ?
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Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:47:29 -
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I like the new look but the biggest flaws with this new UI setup I see are as follows:
The act of having a "blurred" background makes the already cluttered UI of EVE more problematic. In many acts of gameplay a player will have multiple windows open such as Local chat, Fleet chat, Fleet Broadcasts, Directional Scan, etc. Blurring the background of those affects a pilots ability to visually recognize where they are in relation to other ships through the tactical overlay and so forth. If that same pilot opts to use their D-Scan they are, in a sense, punished and not permitted to see where they are in relation to other items on grid. I hope CCP make this an "opt out" feature.
The new left hand menu icons are good at achieving the goal of simplistic recognizing of a window. However some of the icons are rather poor at immediately being recognized as X or Y menu. For example the Market Hub icon is, well, not really that great of an icon to jump out as "this is the market hub." What sort of suitable icon would I suggest? Not sure but I think the current one is worth revisiting to some degree.
I would also suggest that for the "People & Places" left menu icon, rather than what appears to be an address/phone book a group of "people" icons set up similarly to the "fleet" icon would do a better job. I feel it looks too similar to the contracts icon.
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Longdrinks
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
130
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:48:28 -
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looks really nice! and more color options is also something ive been wanting. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:49:15 -
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Some windows shouldn't be transparent, like Ship 3D preview window because they look strange: http://i.imgur.com/BJToDgf.jpg |
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
57
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:49:49 -
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Altrue wrote:To be clear about the monochrome icon thing. Its not that all icons are harder to distinguish, its that some of them look so similar that even without color, our brains cannot quickly enough tell the difference. These icons in particular: http://i.gyazo.com/e36e6691c956dbfc5ab9e95a0ae04a2d.pngThat's just my opinion but maybe you could make their shape more distinct then.
Icons are not final, so we will take your feedback on-board.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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marVLs
665
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:51:04 -
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It's beautiful ^^
But im not convinced to those mono icons, id rather prefer few colors for every eve aspect like green for industry icons, blue for character icons etc |
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
57
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:51:10 -
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This is a known defect.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:55:26 -
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marVLs wrote:It's beautiful ^^
But im not convinced to those mono icons, id rather prefer few colors for every eve aspect like green for industry icons, blue for character icons etc
Just give it the weekend and see how you feel. The new icons will take a little time to learn, but we feel the lack of color is going to benefit our players.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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Milo Caman
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
81
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:56:02 -
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BEP3 wrote:I want to talk about new monocolor icons. Different colors in UI have very important role - it speeds up the perception of UI by user. Color memory is faster than shape memory. EVE UI is overloaded with different elements. Most basic, frequently used, active elements must be highlighted. Current icons looks good and familiar. New icons are monotonic and boring. I'm developing GUI for military use, I know what I am talking about.
This, 100 times.
Most of the menus I now know by muscle memory. I don't think it'll hit veteran players terribly hard, but I can imagine it'll make learning EVE's monolithic UI even harder for newer players. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2957
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:56:20 -
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I cannot log in at all "There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."
Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.
Maybe a Mac issue?
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:00:21 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I cannot log in at all "There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."
Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts.
Maybe a Mac issue?
Same, and I'm using windows 7. I suggest you find your eve sisi folder, go to the bin folder, and create a shortcut to exefile with the following shortcut parameter: /server:singularity
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Milo Caman
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
82
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:05:31 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I cannot log in at all "There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."
Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.
Maybe a Mac issue?
Fix that worked for me for this issue by CCP Habakuk posted here. |
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:10:45 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I cannot log in at all "There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."
Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.
Maybe a Mac issue?
Clear your cache through the settings option on the launcher.
Then restart the client.
Hopefully this fixes it.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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Murashj
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:11:30 -
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Issues: -Text on selected tabs are too bright and borderline unreadeble (on most themes) on high res monitors (see chat window and overview)
Wishlist: -Make every second line on dscan, overview etc in a diffrent shade to make it easier to separate the lines (like the example I made in the overview, but a little more toned down)
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Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:12:16 -
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I'm also a bit confused, why is there a simplistic icon for every item in the left hand menu save for the New Eden Store icon? It would make sense to change that icon to accommodate the new design look as they are somewhat opposing in terms of design. Even a simple "NES" text icon, in the old NEX style, would be congruent to this redesign.
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Cynthia Aishai
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:14:45 -
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In the new UI, brackets can't be seen through pinned windows.
in Tranquility, you can see brackets in space through any pinned windows. http://i.imgur.com/3yMN9MM.jpg
in Singularity: http://i.imgur.com/QfXr5Xk.jpg
worst of all, when i click anywhere on a window, the transparency changes that make things even harder to see. http://i.imgur.com/mExN3nC.jpg
I hope it's a bug, not a feature
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:15:13 -
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Murashj wrote:Issues: -Text on selected tabs are too bright and borderline unreadeble (on most themes) on high res monitors (see chat window and overview) Wishlist: -Make every second line on dscan, overview etc in a diffrent shade to make it easier to separate the lines (like the example I made in the overview, but a little more toned down) Screenshot
We are aware that items are appearing too bright and are working on it.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:16:07 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:I'm also a bit confused, why is there a simplistic icon for every item in the left hand menu save for the New Eden Store icon? It would make sense to change that icon to accommodate the new design look as they are somewhat opposing in terms of design. Even a simple "NES" text icon, in the old NEX style, would be congruent to this redesign.
These icons are not 100% final, we are missing some, and some have not yet been changed.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:16:18 -
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It appears to be a feature. It does that for every window now and the opacity changes when selecting different windows with the current window being more opaque.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2957
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:16:36 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I cannot log in at all "There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."
Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.
Maybe a Mac issue? Clear your cache through the settings option on the launcher. Then restart the client. Hopefully this fixes it. Thanks , and same to Milo Caman. It cleared the issue.
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:17:35 -
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I will have a chat with the team about this.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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Graham Chapman
Deadly Penguins
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:17:58 -
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Please rework the People & Places windows while you are at it.
P&P
So much wasted space at the top of that window.
Also, please create a station service button size setting that corresponds to the icon size in the merged hangar window. I'm not even sure why that bugs me so much but it does.
Station Services / Guests
The amount of guests is currently cut off, the number placement is a little odd anyway.
All in all, I do like the changes, although it makes the HUD look a little out of place. The looks don't match, at least in my opinion. More customization in the color department would be nice as well as sliders to adjust transparency for the 3 window states. |
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:18:03 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Claymore wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I cannot log in at all "There was an error while validating your account, please try again.."
Its not a password issue, If I type in a letter jumble for a password and get a different error. So I am using the right one. I tried with all three of my accounts, and I cal log into TQ.
Maybe a Mac issue? Clear your cache through the settings option on the launcher. Then restart the client. Hopefully this fixes it. Thanks , and same to Milo Caman. It cleared the issue.
Awesome!
Hope you enjoy.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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uno muerto
The Opportunists
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:19:46 -
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I really like the new UI. My favorite part is how when the chat's aren't in focus they aren't as distracting, excellent when you're trying to focus on PVP...or anything really. Love the color schemes, although a few of them don't seem to different from each other. Love the changes guys, keep up the good work. |
Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:20:21 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:I'm also a bit confused, why is there a simplistic icon for every item in the left hand menu save for the New Eden Store icon? It would make sense to change that icon to accommodate the new design look as they are somewhat opposing in terms of design. Even a simple "NES" text icon, in the old NEX style, would be congruent to this redesign. These icons are not 100% final, we are missing some, and some have not yet been changed.
OK, just as long as you folks are aware of the difference in how the two icon designs look next to one another. I would also like to reiterate that harmonizing the "Inventory" icon with the "Cargo Hold" icon would be ideal.
Example - http://i.imgur.com/DDnTNlk.png
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Cynthia Aishai
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:29:59 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:I will have a chat with the team about this.
Please do!
Here is a comparison of what you can see in space between old UI and the new one.
I highlighted it with red colour.
Old: http://i.imgur.com/7FOcy0D.jpg
New: http://i.imgur.com/ZN3X4RA.jpg |
Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:36:17 -
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Re-people and places icon, here is a suggestion:
Take this "member list" icon from the Corp window and replace the star with a magnifying glass. Boom, you have an easily identifiable icon for "people searching" which is what that window primarily does (I know it's not the only thing it does but it's an easy concept to convey).
http://i.imgur.com/ICdNO4J.png
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2957
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:39:15 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:
Awesome!
Hope you enjoy.
I bug reported that the "green" theme washes out the text on selected buttons.
Also I miss having the option to pick my own colors. Ive carefully found three I like, one for each account, and now they will be gone. I want my colors back, please.
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Casey Ambraelle
EVE University Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:05:46 -
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Hopped on SISI to take a look and
- I like the new window transparency layers especially if they work with the hacking interface there wasn't anything to scan down and test it.
- Target list anchor still changes display order when moved passed "center" of screen. There is no way to set display order as left to right or right to left although you can set it to vertical or horizontal https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=379931&find=unread
- Not all windows are resizable, stackable, or able to be rolled up to just the title bar. Fitting is one of these, Industry is another. Please make all windows resizable, stackable, and able to be rolled up. I'm a big boy I can decide how big I need a window to use it
- Flat monochromatic icons are hideous and makes the game look like something from the 80's. I use to play ASCII games on a Kaypro II with a green monochromatic screen, while I like to wax poetic about ye old days I have no desire to relive them. Please keep the multi color icons that look modern and not a throw back to the 80's.
- Where have all the sliders gone so I can create my own skin colors? You want to make some presets you can theme the UI on default with thats fine but please do not take away my ability to change the skin color as I see fit. Maybe I want a hot pink UI or a purple one or some other nausea inducing color that is possible with the RGB sliders.
Thats all I had time for over all looks good except for the god awful icons. |
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