EVE Search - Buff Nighthawk Powergrid

Search EVE-Online forums for:

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Buff Nighthawk Powergrid

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Reply to Topic \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Raven Ether Republic University Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2011.11.27 13:46:00 - [1] - Quote Right now at 710 MW, while other command ships have 1200+ It can't even fit a gang link.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 10	Posted - 2011.11.27 13:51:00 - [2] - Quote Other command ships dont have missile launchers. If you want to compare the nighthawks fitting trouble to anything, compare it to the teir 2 tech 1 drake which gets 140 more grid (18%) with only one extra launcher slot to fill.
Raven Ether Republic University Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2011.11.27 14:01:00 - [3] - Quote Other command ships however can fit their weapons AND a ganglink without fitting mods.
Captain Mastiff 5	Posted - 2011.11.27 15:45:00 - [4] - Quote Raven Ether wrote: Other command ships however can fit their weapons AND a ganglink without fitting mods. QFT
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 114	Posted - 2011.11.27 15:54:00 - [5] - Quote Raven Ether wrote: Right now at 710 MW, while other command ships have 1200+ It can't even fit a gang link. Did it take a long time to train for ?
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 36	Posted - 2011.11.27 16:29:00 - [6] - Quote http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1508537&page=1#29 Quote: Why don't you fix NH's powergrid issue? Everyone agrees it's broken. Quote: NH balance - is the Nighthawk actually underpowered? I see people saying that there's things that they'd like to be able to do but can't due to grid issues, but is this driven by "the NH is really underpowered/under-used compared to other ships in its class because of this grid issue"? 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 1256	Posted - 2011.11.27 18:28:00 - [7] - Quote Muad 'dib wrote: Other command ships dont have missile launchers. So what? After fitting a full rack of HML IIs and a ganglink, the NightHawk has 120.5 PG left After fitting a full rack of HAM IIs and a ganglink, the Nighthawk has 7.1 PG left After fitting a full rack of HPL IIs and a ganglink, the Absolution has 521.35 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of HBL IIs and a ganglink, the Absolution has 283.75 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of 425mm AC IIs and a ganglink, the Sleipnir has 654.8 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of 720mm Arty IIs and a ganglink, the Sleipnir has a deficit of 107.5PG - but it has the option of dropping to a lower tier waepon system, the 650mm Arty II, leaving it with 239 PG. The Nighthawk has no such option. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 284	Posted - 2011.11.27 18:39:00 - [8] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Muad 'dib wrote: Other command ships dont have missile launchers. So what? After fitting a full rack of HML IIs and a ganglink, the NightHawk has 120.5 PG left After fitting a full rack of HAM IIs and a ganglink, the Nighthawk has 7.1 PG left After fitting a full rack of HPL IIs and a ganglink, the Absolution has 521.35 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of HBL IIs and a ganglink, the Absolution has 283.75 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of 425mm AC IIs and a ganglink, the Sleipnir has 654.8 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of 720mm Arty IIs and a ganglink, the Sleipnir has a deficit of 107.5PG - but it has the option of dropping to a lower tier waepon system, the 650mm Arty II, leaving it with 239 PG. The Nighthawk has no such option. Man, watching Malcanis get up in somebodies ass is almost as fun as doing it myself.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 1256	Posted - 2011.11.27 18:45:00 - [9] - Quote In before someone claims that the Nighthawk doesn't need a prop mod because of missiles. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Raven Ether Republic University Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2011.11.27 18:57:00 - [10] - Quote Easy fix for obvious problem. /sigh So because some other command ships might be even shittier, the NH shouldn't be fixed. How about they are all brought in line? I guess typing a few numbers is too difficult. Other devs fix balance in a short amount of time, and deal with a lot more complex issues than that. With CCP we have to wait for years for them to change a few numbers around. and I can't make sense out of Greyscale's answer.

Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 182	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:22:00 - [11] - Quote Raven Ether wrote: Other devs fix balance in a short amount of time, and deal with a lot more complex issues than that. With CCP we have to wait for years for them to change a few numbers around. Probably because CCP has one of the most hateful and entitlement ridden playerbases. I wouldn't want to fix anything for you people either.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 182	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:24:00 - [12] - Quote Forums Derp, Double Post.
Raven Ether Republic University Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:41:00 - [13] - Quote Try harder.
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 36	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:44:00 - [14] - Quote Raven Ether wrote: and I can't make sense out of Greyscale's answer. It wasn't supposed to be an answer. Merely a runaround. Just check out the rest of my questions and the stuff I got back. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1034	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:50:00 - [15] - Quote I have a better idea, don't fit ganglinks on nighthawks
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 36	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:54:00 - [16] - Quote Andski wrote: I have a better idea, don't fit ganglinks on nighthawks It lacks grid regardless. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 1256	Posted - 2011.11.27 19:56:00 - [17] - Quote Andski wrote: I have a better idea, don't fit ganglinks on nighthawks Yeah who puts ganglinks on Commandships? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 404	Posted - 2011.11.27 20:04:00 - [18] - Quote Well the next question is whats the dps at full racks and no upgrades? Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Dewgong Scuderia Caille 2	Posted - 2011.11.27 20:15:00 - [19] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Muad 'dib wrote: Other command ships dont have missile launchers. So what? After fitting a full rack of HML IIs and a ganglink, the NightHawk has 120.5 PG left After fitting a full rack of HAM IIs and a ganglink, the Nighthawk has 7.1 PG left After fitting a full rack of HPL IIs and a ganglink, the Absolution has 521.35 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of HBL IIs and a ganglink, the Absolution has 283.75 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of 425mm AC IIs and a ganglink, the Sleipnir has 654.8 PG remaining After fitting a full rack of 720mm Arty IIs and a ganglink, the Sleipnir has a deficit of 107.5PG - but it has the option of dropping to a lower tier weapon system, the 650mm Arty II, leaving it with 239 PG. The Nighthawk has no such option. lol beams on an Abso, that's cute. You shouldn't be putting a ganglink on a NH in general, and for the Abso, you fit a 1600mm plate and there goes 500 PG like that. Drop DPS for moar tank or just drop the ganglink? Caldari ships in general have ****** PG. So one is gimped more than the others, be happy you don't have to armor tank. It may seem like alot to you, but even with 283 PG left on an Abso, that's still a really tight fit. At least fitting mods don't take up your tanking slots. Also, LOL Sleipnir.
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 36	Posted - 2011.11.27 20:26:00 - [20] - Quote Meanwhile the thread got moved to Ships & Modules. R.I.P. No one from CCP will ever bother unswering here. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.

Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1036	Posted - 2011.11.27 20:57:00 - [21] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Andski wrote: I have a better idea, don't fit ganglinks on nighthawks Yeah who puts ganglinks on Commandships? people who fly vultures, damnations and claymores maybe
Liang Nuren Perkone Caldari State 106	Posted - 2011.11.27 21:11:00 - [22] - Quote I can't help but wonder if they aren't holding off on the Nighthawk because they really need to rebalance the command ship class as a whole. However, I feel like its a reasonable thing for someone to directly answer his question and show that the Nighthawk is in fact underpowered and that it is primarily because of grid. -Liang Looking for WH PVP corp.-a Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren Recruit me: http://wp.me/p1WQ0O-R
Slade Hoo Retired Gunslingers 1	Posted - 2011.11.28 00:26:00 - [23] - Quote because of Grid Hey why does the nighthawk have a 7th Highslot when you can't plugin a ganglink "because of grid"? Nighthawk has one midslot less and therefor an additional lowslot. That results in less tank and a lowslot than is almost always locked by PDU/RCU "Because of Grid" Sense? Result +20% Grid for the Nighthawk!
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 129	Posted - 2011.11.28 06:20:00 - [24] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I can't help but wonder if they aren't holding off on the Nighthawk because they really need to rebalance the command ship class as a whole. However, I feel like its a reasonable thing for someone to directly answer his question and show that the Nighthawk is in fact underpowered and that it is primarily because of grid. -Liang Being able to fit prop mod, medium cap booster and LSB without fitting mods would be nice. As it stands, you need a considerable amount of pimp to get a MSB NH up to the standards of today's EVE.
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 36	Posted - 2011.11.28 10:23:00 - [25] - Quote Mfume Apocal wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: I can't help but wonder if they aren't holding off on the Nighthawk because they really need to rebalance the command ship class as a whole. However, I feel like its a reasonable thing for someone to directly answer his question and show that the Nighthawk is in fact underpowered and that it is primarily because of grid. -Liang Being able to fit prop mod, medium cap booster and LSB without fitting mods would be nice. As it stands, you need a considerable amount of pimp to get a MSB NH up to the standards of today's EVE. Yeap, that's what I for one consider as a NH grid issue fix. And that's exactly +17...20% extra PG needed. There's no way this change can be somehow exploited to make the ship OP in any application. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.
Biced Instant Reaction Corp 0	Posted - 2011.11.28 10:27:00 - [26] - Quote I have been saying this for years... how do you take a t1 hull neruf its pg and make it a t2??? nighthawk has less pg than the ferox which is fine cause its a rail boat and guns do take more pg than missiles. now it also has less pg than the drake. well the drake came in the game later on etc etc. as it stands now the nighthawk has very low pg and you cant fit gang links on it or HAM. I want a gank nighthawk with HAMs and buffer. its a field command ship ffs! needs enough grid for buffer+hams+link!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 1262	Posted - 2011.11.28 10:38:00 - [27] - Quote Andski wrote: Malcanis wrote: Andski wrote: I have a better idea, don't fit ganglinks on nighthawks Yeah who puts ganglinks on Commandships? people who fly vultures, damnations and claymores maybe Great, let's just get rid of the ganglink bonus and turn it into something useful then. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
m0cking bird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2011.11.28 20:32:00 - [28] - Quote So! Some of you want CCP to change a ship so your shield boosting set-up is easier to set-up? I would like CCP to increase my Ruptures power grid so I can fit a 1600mm plate, mwd and 425mm auto-cannons. Cant atm and I think this ship is broken because of it. -nerf winmatar so they don't win
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 276	Posted - 2011.11.28 20:37:00 - [29] - Quote Raven Ether wrote: Right now at 710 MW, while other command ships have 1200+ It can't even fit a gang link. Command T3's On a side note, Id like to see more command ships on the field thx to ON GRID BOOSTS ONLY !! (agree on pg issues thou)
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 36	Posted - 2011.11.28 21:02:00 - [30] - Quote m0cking bird wrote: So! Some of you want CCP to change a ship so your shield boosting set-up is easier to set-up? I would like CCP to increase my Ruptures power grid so I can fit a 1600mm plate, mwd and 425mm auto-cannons. Cant atm and I think this ship is broken because of it. No one was asking for heavy cap b00ster iirc. And it is of the same relation to NH as 1600mm plate+425mm's are to Rupture. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.


	Reply to Topic
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.