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Koweim Imm'Yka
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.09 03:27:31 -
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I'm up to a Mackinaw right now, and I'm wondering how big of a difference ISK/hour to get into a mining corp. Has anyone done the math on that? |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.11.09 04:12:20 -
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::sigh:: Joining a corp means more than just more ISK per hour.
But for just the raw yield numbers: Orca vs. Rorqual Max Boosts.
Also, some mining corps can do more than just mine: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5117100#post5117100 |
Zedutchman
The Miners of Hyperion
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Posted - 2014.11.09 12:59:50 -
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Acutally I've found you generally end up with LEss isk/h in a mining corp, as most of their payment programs and buy-back rates are less than market. However, even so you gain alot more.
like talking to people, doing some mining ops. Diving WH's, POS's, Orca Boosts..... Other things.
It's worse for your wallet, but makes for a much better Eve Experience. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.11.09 20:03:23 -
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we have highsec orca boosts and null sec rorqual boosts and pay based on where the ore is -20% for null and -10% for highsec (more fair for the corpies).... having a buy back program allows the corp to make a little isk true but you make more isk by not only having the boosts but also not spending your time out of belt hauling stuff to market because the corp buys it from you
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:52:07 -
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The best mining corps are NPC corps. The biggest ISK killer is war dec if you are a miner. Any Ops based benefit is fleet driven and can be handled with a neutral chat channel. It's also a lot easier to remove an AWOX threat from a chat channel. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:40:17 -
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Skydell wrote:The biggest ISK killer is war dec if you are a miner
Not true ....any good Alliance or Corp are able to say what war dec and then just Mine/rat/pvp in Null or a WH till it's over .... since my alliance is almost self sufficient we have almost no use for our out of corp alts to move stuff we just make what we need and live off the land
my guys typically make more isk during war decs as well unless there incursion runners that is
joining a good corp is something everyone should want to do .. better locations/isk making oppurtunitys, more protection and shared knowledge for noobies is provided by most corps and good corps have SRP (ship replacement program) BYOM (bring your own mats) or any number of other programs/challenges/contests
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Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:18:31 -
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Koweim Imm'Yka wrote:I'm up to a Mackinaw right now, and I'm wondering how big of a difference ISK/hour to get into a mining corp. Has anyone done the math on that?
If all you want is ISK/hour, you will increase it if you join a corp that offers free boosts. That is, they don't buy your ore or haul your ore for you. The problem, though, is you will have to compress on your own somehow. Corps that offer ore buyback programs and conduct hauler supported mining ops in most cases decrease your money: orca gets a cut, hauler gets a cut, paying for the compression tower comes from somewhere, etc.
There are corps that will increase your money, but most won't unless they are only boosting. |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:13:59 -
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Amely Miles wrote:Skydell wrote:The biggest ISK killer is war dec if you are a miner Not true ....any good Alliance or Corp are able to say what war dec and then just Mine/rat/pvp in Null or a WH till it's over .... since my alliance is almost self sufficient we have almost no use for our out of corp alts to move stuff we just make what we need and live off the land my guys typically make more isk during war decs as well unless there incursion runners that is joining a good corp is something everyone should want to do .. better locations/isk making oppurtunitys, more protection and shared knowledge for noobies is provided by most corps and good corps have SRP (ship replacement program) BYOM (bring your own mats) or any number of other programs/challenges/contests
For the mining corps that also have access to Null, run incursion, do WH ops, have alliance backed industry, no a War dec won't be a problem.
For mining corps that... mine? They are a problem. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.11.10 08:50:53 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Koweim Imm'Yka wrote:I'm up to a Mackinaw right now, and I'm wondering how big of a difference ISK/hour to get into a mining corp. Has anyone done the math on that? If all you want is ISK/hour, you will increase it if you join a corp that offers free boosts. That is, they don't buy your ore or haul your ore for you. The problem, though, is you will have to compress on your own somehow. Corps that offer ore buyback programs and conduct hauler supported mining ops in most cases decrease your money: orca gets a cut, hauler gets a cut, paying for the compression tower comes from somewhere, etc. There are corps that will increase your money, but most won't unless they are only boosting.
This is also not entirley true
there are corps such as mine that offer free boosts and we buy ore minerals pi salvage
yes orca's and haulers get a cut it's 5% for instance in my corp for the entire op not just you so it's a very small difference also me and my director and several other miners tend to say give my cut to the corpies or to the corp.
we do have a compression tower that is open to the alliance..... we use the buy back program to pay for that so compress all you want enjoy the extra isk you make from using it.
There are corps and alliances such as mine that do everything in there power to make the corpies ISK or add content
for instance i typically haul with my alts when we are war deced so you the corpie doesn't get inconveinenced i do this for the low low cost of Donation or 0.00 isk which ever you can afford...i do charge for the cost of the product but thats it, and yes this turns me in to a freighter biatch but as a ceo/alliance ceo i do alot of station spinning and am more then happy to help.
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.11.10 08:54:27 -
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Skydell wrote: For mining corps that... mine? They are a problem.
no not really as i said my corp mines still even if war deced we do other things as well besides mining but thats what the OP is concerned with.
there are many corps and alliances like mine you just need to search for them and keep in mind a corp is a business yes but it's also a social experience and i can not count the times that ive been on coms LMAO because of things that someone has said or done
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2014.11.10 09:12:34 -
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There are strengths in numbers that move well beyond the synergenic boost to yield:
If you are teaming up with others you have the advantage of working together on personal and corp goals that you make and set together. If you aren't doing this you are missing out of some important player content that could improve player participation.
Also mining together can certainly be more entertaining then slogging it out alone.
Being able to field a nice sized op also serves as intimidation to other non-affiliated miners who might want to mine in the same belts as you.
If you share the responsbility you can have some work hauling others run boosts and security..
if you are mining in a mixed belt you can even divide the responcibility for the different ores, lessening the need to carry every type of crystal and reducing the need to swap crystals as much.
Mining in a corp it's easier to find people to trust for mining ops as well - you can share intell on corps and players in the area with those in your corp that may be in different time zones making the systems safer for you.
I could probably think of other reasons joining a mining corp is a good idea if you are a miner; but I'll bet you can come up with your own reasons if you try.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.11.10 09:53:03 -
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there are 0 reasons to join a player owned corp as a miner.
in fact, there are many reasons not to do so. wardec and (near)awox immunity, for a start.
you only have to be in a fleet, not a corp, to recieve boosts.
you could argue being in a corp is good as it gives you access to a compression array at a pos, but that's nothing you can't set up on an alt in about 30 mins of training and 7 days waiting once you've created your 1 man alt corp. it also certainly doesn't outweigh the other reasons for not being in a corp. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.11.10 10:38:07 -
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Dave Stark wrote:there are 0 reasons to join a player owned corp as a miner.
in fact, there are many reasons not to do so. wardec and (near)awox immunity, for a start.
you only have to be in a fleet, not a corp, to recieve boosts.
you could argue being in a corp is good as it gives you access to a compression array at a pos, but that's nothing you can't set up on an alt in about 30 mins of training and 7 days waiting once you've created your 1 man alt corp. it also certainly doesn't outweigh the other reasons for not being in a corp.
war decs happen yes as stated and when it happens my guys make more ISK unless there incursion runners in the entire time i have had this corp there has been 1 Awoxxer and that was brought in by a different person/corp then me ... thru the use of a intense background check that is given to every possible member of my corp this has been proven a success
if a awoxxer was to get in to the corp then me being the front line of defense has failed and it is therefore my fault and i would reimburse the loss out of my own pocket
i can't think of a reason not to join a good corp or alliance
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2014.11.13 01:41:33 -
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Dave Stark wrote: you only have to be in a fleet, not a corp, to recieve boosts.
That is true. Ask nicely in lokal and if ur lucky u will get boost. I do it all the time when i mine(Boostgiving). It's my social entertainment. Some pay me for it, some don't. I have it, so why not give it. But i don't buy the ice/ore. |
Awesome MILF
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.14 22:55:45 -
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Zedutchman wrote:Acutally I've found you generally end up with LEss isk/h in a mining corp, as most of their payment programs and buy-back rates are less than market. However, even so you gain alot more.
like talking to people, doing some mining ops. Diving WH's, POS's, Orca Boosts..... Other things.
It's worse for your wallet, but makes for a much better Eve Experience.
This, and eventually you get wardec'ed and get to know a great EVE Online feature: THE GRIEF :')
Oh and awoxers haha. Such another great feature. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.11.15 05:59:05 -
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Dave Stark wrote:you only have to be in a fleet, not a corp, to recieve boosts. True, but if you don't have a booster of your own, a mining corp certainly will.
Hence I mentioned boosting in post #2. |
Zedutchman
The Miners of Hyperion
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:10:14 -
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Awesome MILF wrote:Zedutchman wrote:Acutally I've found you generally end up with LEss isk/h in a mining corp, as most of their payment programs and buy-back rates are less than market. However, even so you gain alot more.
like talking to people, doing some mining ops. Diving WH's, POS's, Orca Boosts..... Other things.
It's worse for your wallet, but makes for a much better Eve Experience. This, and eventually you get wardec'ed and get to know a great EVE Online feature: THE GRIEF :') Oh and awoxers haha. Such another great feature.
True, but that's a bit like spending all your time in your apartment because someone outside might try and kill you.....
Sure you'll be safer if you stay inside.... but does that really make it better. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:33:26 -
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+1
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