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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13959
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Posted - 2014.11.21 06:28:02 -
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Yume Ookami wrote:baltec1 wrote:Quote:
ok with my skills: charon: 303k ehp obi: 367k ehp prov: 347k ehp fen: 282k ehp
ok it has more ehp with the devs fit at around 420kehp but that is going with a split tank and not a strain hull tank
It doesnt matter if its split what matters is the total buffer. You can get 700k ehp with the bowhead for just 300 mil isk. how?
By using all of the tools CCP have given us.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13959
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Posted - 2014.11.21 06:36:46 -
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Meyr wrote:Yume Ookami wrote:baltec1 wrote:Quote:
ok with my skills: charon: 303k ehp obi: 367k ehp prov: 347k ehp fen: 282k ehp
ok it has more ehp with the devs fit at around 420kehp but that is going with a split tank and not a strain hull tank
It doesnt matter if its split what matters is the total buffer. You can get 700k ehp with the bowhead for just 300 mil isk. how? I'm going to guess all-V fleet bonuses and maximum-bonus implants?
You can hit half a million using a fairly cheap tank and t2 rigs.
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Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2014.11.21 10:57:43 -
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baltec1 wrote:
In this very thread. CCP asked if the tank was enough for transporting 3 t2 fitted battleships.
Fair enough, that leaves us (or them) with having to explain how that is useful in high.
Apart of 3 t2 fitted t1 (which was just implied) battleships easily being 550m each. |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2014.11.21 10:59:36 -
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baltec1 wrote:
You can hit half a million using a fairly cheap tank and t2 rigs.
Isnt it supposed to use capital rigs, or was that changed also? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13959
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Posted - 2014.11.21 11:09:30 -
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Barton Breau wrote:baltec1 wrote:
You can hit half a million using a fairly cheap tank and t2 rigs.
Isnt it supposed to use capital rigs, or was that changed also?
Capital as far as I know.
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Petra Hakaari
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
112
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:19:54 -
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Will it have refitting service?
Because tities .
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
2
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:47:35 -
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Petra Hakaari wrote:Will it have refitting service?
from what i can see in this thread and on sisi there is not going to be any refitting service on this ship.
but i would sure love to have it if they change it. |
Antarian Anderson
C0NATUS Echoes of Nowhere
0
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:48:09 -
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It's may be already asked, sorry but i'm confused !
Is that Bowhead a Jump Freighter or just a freighter ?
If it's a simple freighter, what his role bonus "90% reduction in jump fatigue generation" is for ?
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
2
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:50:59 -
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Antarian Anderson wrote:It's may be already asked, sorry but i'm confused !
Is that Bowhead a Jump Freighter or just a freighter ?
If it's a simple freighter, what his role bonus "90% reduction in jump fatigue generation" is for ?
it is just a freighter.
the 90% reduction is for jump bridges and such.
also it gets that bonus due to being a industrial hauler.
sorry no jump drive. |
Petra Hakaari
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
112
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:06:06 -
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Yume Ookami wrote:Petra Hakaari wrote:Will it have refitting service? from what i can see in this thread and on sisi there is not going to be any refitting service on this ship. but i would sure love to have it if they change it.
Indeed.
If the orca has it which is the small sista, and even the nestor has it... i dont see why it should not
Because tities .
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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:15:18 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Interesting. Will probably become a favorite of gankers, and I don't mean in a good way.
Yea, probably just be a loot pinata. Be interesting to see if anyone actually uses it.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
3
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:23:54 -
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currently with the fit i was able to come up with for the current stats on the bowhead i have come up with: EHP 490k (eve: 460k) this is T2 fit 3 t2 trans bulkhead rigs DC2 2 t2 rein builkheads 2 ada invuln field 2s and large shield extender 2
will try some other fits to give more feedback
using gist a-types it raises to 534k EHP (eve: 491k) |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13962
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:36:14 -
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Yume Ookami wrote:currently with the fit i was able to come up with for the current stats on the bowhead i have come up with: EHP 490k (eve: 460k) this is T2 fit 3 t2 trans bulkhead rigs DC2 2 t2 rein builkheads 2 ada invuln field 2s and large shield extender 2
will try some other fits to give more feedback
using gist a-types it raises to 534k EHP (eve: 491k) (not recommended) using pith a-types it raises to 548k EHP (eve: 501k) (not recommended)
Implants.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
3
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:48:25 -
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baltec1 wrote:Yume Ookami wrote:currently with the fit i was able to come up with for the current stats on the bowhead i have come up with: EHP 490k (eve: 460k) this is T2 fit 3 t2 trans bulkhead rigs DC2 2 t2 rein builkheads 2 ada invuln field 2s and large shield extender 2
will try some other fits to give more feedback
using gist a-types it raises to 534k EHP (eve: 491k) (not recommended) using pith a-types it raises to 548k EHP (eve: 501k) (not recommended) Implants.
these? Zainou gnome shield management sm-706 inherent implants noble mechanic mc-806 inherent implants noble hull upgrades hg-1008 |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13962
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:14:03 -
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Slave set is also a good option.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1378
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:05:02 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Interesting. Will probably become a favorite of gankers, and I don't mean in a good way. Yea, probably just be a loot pinata. Be interesting to see if anyone actually uses it.
It will be used. Maybe not how it was first envisioned by people but there will definitely be use case. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
207
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:15:23 -
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It'll be used about as much as the Rorqlol, maybe even less.
:ccp: |
Masao Kurata
Z List
156
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:40:01 -
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baltec1 wrote:Slave set is also a good option.
Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so. |
Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
274
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:14:05 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote: Seriously, that is the best you can do?
You said large CFC deployment wont happen again. We deployed the CFC the very same day you made that comment. Big, organised powerblocks are not going away, hence why CCP are rebuilding nullsec with large groups in mind. . No you did not deploy the "CFC", many alliances in the CFC did not (and will not) deploy. It was at best a partial deployment, of those who wanted to go and were close enough to do so. If your going to make up stories make sure they can't be so easily seen as fantasy.. Wrong again, nerfs to travel (the only change so far) is the 1st nail in the head of large coalitions. Sov changes if done right will be the second. Time vs distance and who holds sov in between will see the end of "workable"coalitions. Might be time for a rethink, Instead of trying to use false and misleading propaganda I think we have found this wars Iraqi information minister.
Sad Baltec1, at least when you stuck to spouting off about stuff you knew little about in such an authoritative way, you were like many others, good for a laugh. Then you go make a personal attack and lose what little credibility you ever had.
Goon propaganda 101; When the propaganda machine has no answer (or in this case is so easily proven wrong), use personal insults and innuendo.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
3
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Posted - 2014.11.22 00:16:16 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:baltec1 wrote:Slave set is also a good option. Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so.
sure lets go with a slave set and those implants i mentioned...(3-4b in implants)
woohoo (dripping sarcasm) 599kEHP (eve: 545kehp) |
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Masao Kurata
Z List
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Posted - 2014.11.22 01:53:46 -
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Yume Ookami wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:baltec1 wrote:Slave set is also a good option. Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so. sure lets go with a slave set and those implants i mentioned...(3-4b in implants) woohoo (dripping sarcasm) 599kEHP (eve: 545kehp) oh wait i installed 2 estimal invulns for that one
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5202939#post5202939 |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13962
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Posted - 2014.11.22 06:15:42 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:baltec1 wrote:Slave set is also a good option. Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so.
If incursion runners are to be believed a good few will have implants like this.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
3
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Posted - 2014.11.22 06:57:58 -
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baltec1 wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:baltec1 wrote:Slave set is also a good option. Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so. If incursion runners are to be believed a good few will have implants like this.
true about incursion runners but i am not one of them and am not going to get them just to run that ship |
Oxide Ammar
179
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Posted - 2014.11.22 09:29:52 -
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Has it ever been mentioned in this thread what is it gonna be for skill modifier for ORE Freighter ?
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Praddy
Delta United Corp. Eternal Pretorian Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.11.22 11:22:57 -
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Nothing of interest. Will be ganked as crazy in high sec. Owning her - a waste of money and effort. Gankers will race to have her on a personal KB. And base stats just suck...
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Meyr
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
355
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Posted - 2014.11.22 16:10:41 -
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Yume Ookami wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:baltec1 wrote:Slave set is also a good option. Not really. That's 2b of implants for another 12k ehp or so. sure lets go with a slave set and those implants i mentioned...(3-4b in implants) woohoo (dripping sarcasm) 599kEHP (eve: 545kehp) oh wait i installed 2 estimal invulns for that one
Hmmmmm... So much for that 300 million fit, huh?
So, now, the following question applies; assuming that you can achieve an EHP in the neighborhood of 500,000 points, what is the effective limit for cargo value? Assuming that a T2-fit Dominix, with at least one T2 rig, will have a scannable value of about 350 million, will three of them, totaling 1.05 billion ISK, be economically feasible to gank in a 0.5 system? How about a Mach and a logi support ship?
At what point does this hull become just so much shiny gift-wrapping paper for gankers? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13970
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Posted - 2014.11.22 19:34:10 -
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Praddy wrote:Nothing of interest. Will be ganked as crazy in high sec. Owning her - a waste of money and effort. Gankers will race to have her on a personal KB. And base stats just suck...
It gets more tank than a freighter.
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Kreed Ellecon
Tymast Industries 150th The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.11.22 20:06:17 -
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why limit this new ship to such a narrow role? make the cargo capacity the same as the ship maintance bay or a total mass limit between the two? GIve the standard JF a increased range to compete with the "Bowhead's" huge capacity
just a thought
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
108
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Posted - 2014.11.22 20:35:46 -
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baltec1 wrote:Praddy wrote:Nothing of interest. Will be ganked as crazy in high sec. Owning her - a waste of money and effort. Gankers will race to have her on a personal KB. And base stats just suck...
It gets more tank than a freighter.
is easier to make it a loot pinata. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6017
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Posted - 2014.11.22 22:02:21 -
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Lady Rift wrote:baltec1 wrote:Praddy wrote:Nothing of interest. Will be ganked as crazy in high sec. Owning her - a waste of money and effort. Gankers will race to have her on a personal KB. And base stats just suck...
It gets more tank than a freighter. is easier to make it a loot pinata. And "that" is why it's a great design in game. You can make it tougher than a freighter, but are tempted to fit in other (easier to gank) ways.
Perfect!
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