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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:38:37 -
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Locke Deathroe wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Acquisition will work the same as freighters - there will be a NPC seeded BPO (with the same distribution as the Orca), it will be a bit cheaper than a freighter BPO, the Bowhead build materials will also be similar to other Freighters but will be be a bit lower. I would expect eventual market price to be 100 or 200 mil lower than other freighters.
It will use capital rigs.
I think it's been said other places but as far as loot - we hope to get a change ready in time for Rhea that will make SMA loot work the same as CHAs where the contents will be inside the wreck on ship death, it's still not totally clear if that will happen in time but it would be in the following release if not.
I'm not convinced about the EHP needing to be higher but I'll bring this to the rest of the team and get back to you. Given it seems a lot of us actually read what CCP Rise said here... and are sitting in the stations that have Orca BPO's and see zero Bowhead BPO's yet a TON of them are already posted for sale in Jita makes me think CCP Devs have cheated yet again and told "select" people where the damn BPO's were seeded. Sick and tired of Dev hacks and insider information being passed to the big boys.
Yes this is the only possible interpretation of events.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15846
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:42:25 -
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Locke Deathroe wrote:Hoyy Lawson wrote:You could get it in 4C-B7X and in NM-OEA like Retriever and Covetor BPOs. But pay attention, stations are camped and it's nullsec. Thanks mate, already been there and back again. Just wish I had known that's where it was going to be in the first place.
Your apology to the developers for falsely accusing them of cheating is welcome, if a little obliquely phrased.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Sluht Hunter
X.S. Industries TSOE Consortium
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:03:54 -
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Kept up on the dev blogs, researched what was going to be needed so I could Aquire the Bowhead bpo today and get one right into the oven, to take advantage of release prices on new ships.
To my great surprise yet again /sarcasm, Some one decided to change the required materials to build a bow head at the last min. So there I sat with to many of the wrong parts, not enough of the ones never listed. Gee thanks again CCP. Oh and BTW thanks for that Orca like availability of the BPO that never happend. The only players that benift at all from mining barges and ORE ship bpo's seeded there is Goons. Making them even richer, while the rest of us have to pay their crazy mark up or risk our expensive assets to attempt to fly there to get it. This needs to change. Seed some ORE stations in High sec or at least turn Ore space into hi sec or even low sec.
Disgruntled but still playing the game. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14149
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:53:25 -
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Sluht Hunter wrote:Kept up on the dev blogs, researched what was going to be needed so I could Aquire the Bowhead bpo today and get one right into the oven, to take advantage of release prices on new ships. To my great surprise yet again /sarcasm, Some one decided to change the required materials to build a bow head at the last min. So there I sat with to many of the wrong parts, not enough of the ones never listed. Gee thanks again CCP. Oh and BTW thanks for that Orca like availability of the BPO that never happend. The only players that benift at all from mining barges and ORE ship bpo's seeded there is Goons. Making them even richer, while the rest of us have to pay their crazy mark up or risk our expensive assets to attempt to fly there to get it. This needs to change. Seed some ORE stations in High sec or at least turn Ore space into hi sec or even low sec. Disgruntled but still playing the game.
Come take the station away from us.
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Yume Kanekawa
Cognitive Disonance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 05:30:39 -
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Sluht Hunter wrote:Kept up on the dev blogs, researched what was going to be needed so I could Aquire the Bowhead bpo today and get one right into the oven, to take advantage of release prices on new ships. To my great surprise yet again /sarcasm, Some one decided to change the required materials to build a bow head at the last min. So there I sat with to many of the wrong parts, not enough of the ones never listed. Gee thanks again CCP. Oh and BTW thanks for that Orca like availability of the BPO that never happend. The only players that benift at all from mining barges and ORE ship bpo's seeded there is Goons. Making them even richer, while the rest of us have to pay their crazy mark up or risk our expensive assets to attempt to fly there to get it. This needs to change. Seed some ORE stations in High sec or at least turn Ore space into hi sec or even low sec. Disgruntled but still playing the game.
i also followed the forums and played on the test server. i bought 2 BPOs and had them in the oven within 20min of buying them i have 2 bowheads coming out so i can enjoy the overpriced nature of the early builds |
Erika Tsurpalen
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.12.10 07:29:45 -
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Sluht Hunter wrote: or risk our expensive assets to attempt to fly there to get it.
An Interceptor is expensive?
An Inty could easily do that entire run, not only within about 20minutes, but with little Risk, just fit it for quick warp alignment and no one is going to catch you.
Except maybe a smartbomber. But theyre pretty rare in their own right. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15847
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Posted - 2014.12.10 07:55:09 -
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Erika Tsurpalen wrote:Sluht Hunter wrote: or risk our expensive assets to attempt to fly there to get it. An Interceptor is expensive? An Inty could easily do that entire run, not only within about 20minutes, but with little Risk, just fit it for quick warp alignment and no one is going to catch you. Except maybe a smartbomber. But theyre pretty rare in their own right.
And if you fly an interceptr carefully (eg: scan outgates, use pingspots) then you can nearly always evade smartbombers as well.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Dusty 3allvalve
Candied Potflies Arkai Imperial
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Posted - 2014.12.10 07:56:07 -
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Dear, dear CCP,
No I have not read the whole thread but so far I can see many people are exited about your new ship (mostly looking forward to blowing them up), and many suggesting changes because I doesn't quite make sense. Like you say, it's a niche ship...and someone will find a good way to loose stuff with it. Not that I don't look forward to seeing the blueprints (less than others obviously) but right now, I wouldn't be caught dead flying one (pun intended).
I told you what you need before: an ORE ship named revenge.
I would like to finish by saying thank you all the same. We like more ships, and you are providing THE game. Great job; please keep it up.
--Dusty |
Dusty 3allvalve
Candied Potflies Arkai Imperial
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Posted - 2014.12.10 08:19:55 -
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Dusty 3allvalve wrote:Dear, dear CCP,
No I have not read the whole thread but so far I can see many people are exited about your new ship (mostly looking blowing them up), and many suggesting changes because I doesn't quite make sense. Like you say, it's a niche ship...and someone will find a good way to loose stuff with it. Not that I don't look forward to seeing the blueprints (less than others obviously) but right now, I wouldn't be caught dead flying one (pun intended).
I told you what you need before: an ORE ship named revenge.
I would like to finish by saying thank you all the same. We like more ships, and you are providing THE game. Great job; please keep it up.
--Dusty
In fact I'll recap: ORE ship Revenge. Looks like...well, one of these. Displays the name...this. But really, a formitable gun ship with vigilante in its design. Yah. I like where you're going with this. |
Random McNally
Isogen 5
86842
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Posted - 2014.12.10 12:31:22 -
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Yume Kanekawa wrote:Sluht Hunter wrote:Kept up on the dev blogs, researched what was going to be needed so I could Aquire the Bowhead bpo today and get one right into the oven, to take advantage of release prices on new ships. To my great surprise yet again /sarcasm, Some one decided to change the required materials to build a bow head at the last min. So there I sat with to many of the wrong parts, not enough of the ones never listed. Gee thanks again CCP. Oh and BTW thanks for that Orca like availability of the BPO that never happend. The only players that benift at all from mining barges and ORE ship bpo's seeded there is Goons. Making them even richer, while the rest of us have to pay their crazy mark up or risk our expensive assets to attempt to fly there to get it. This needs to change. Seed some ORE stations in High sec or at least turn Ore space into hi sec or even low sec. Disgruntled but still playing the game. i also followed the forums and played on the test server. i bought 2 BPOs and had them in the oven within 20min of buying them i have 2 bowheads coming out so i can enjoy the overpriced nature of the early builds I was pretty grumbly about this as well. Had a stock pile of the components that were listed on Sisi and was surprised at the change on the actual bpo.
Reprocessed my extra components and building the relisted ones. In the meantime, my bpo will get a little TE research. I lost two days on the components but should make up a little on the final construction.
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:57:14 -
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Malcanis wrote:Locke Deathroe wrote:Hoyy Lawson wrote:You could get it in 4C-B7X and in NM-OEA like Retriever and Covetor BPOs. But pay attention, stations are camped and it's nullsec. Thanks mate, already been there and back again. Just wish I had known that's where it was going to be in the first place. Your apology to the developers for falsely accusing them of cheating is welcome, if a little obliquely phrased.
they said it would have the same availability as the orca which it does not. |
Annabelle Dadunur
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.11 06:18:26 -
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Reading the descrip, I was hoping for a mobile ship builder...sigh...my dream of a quasi-migrant fleet ruined again |
Zyxi Zhou-Laun
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.12 22:50:57 -
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Annabelle Dadunur wrote:Reading the descrip, I was hoping for a mobile ship builder...sigh...my dream of a quasi-migrant fleet ruined again
obviously, you don't understand.
CCP doesn't want players to be adventurous. they want players to play in the manner CCP dictates.
hello wall... I didn't see you standing there.
Did I hurt cha? Boy, I sure did hit you square.
Now one of us is plastered. I'll let you guess just who.
Just imagine, bumping into you.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
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Posted - 2014.12.13 21:04:56 -
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Annabelle Dadunur wrote:Reading the descrip, I was hoping for a mobile ship builder...sigh...my dream of a quasi-migrant fleet ruined again
isn't that what a freighter and a POS are for?
freighter carries everything. pulls up to a moon. and deploys the POS. you fuel it. and drop your assembly array. build your ships. and then move on? |
Lil' Brudder Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2014.12.13 22:13:16 -
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Sluht Hunter wrote: Kept up on the dev blogs, researched what was going to be needed
To put it bluntly, apparently you did not.
Sluht Hunter wrote: To my great surprise yet again /sarcasm, Some one decided to change the required materials to build a bow head at the last min. So there I sat with to many of the wrong parts, not enough of the ones never listed.
So you are one of the guys to whom i gladly sold maint bays to at 3x the cost....because i WAS prepared since i did the research. The BPO was updated on SiSi on December 2nd. Note, the BPO was updated, not the ships info card. As this wasn't my first patch, i knew to look at the BPO's info. I checked SiSi on a daily basis to look for the change from 'copy of obelisk' to its own list.
I got my pilots out into an ORE station in ceptors, and later discovered the Deep Core seed possibility. Even though, unlike the Orca, the Bowhead has NO mention of any manufacturer other than O.R.E. so i was skeptical. I logged on, it wasn't in Citadel. I JC'd out to the null seed and brought my goods out. Had no trouble building my ships the instant i got the BPO's out.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2077
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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:47:09 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Assuming at least one of the mids will be reserved for a MWD, and fitting a hull tank, the defences do seem a little bit weak; I think with DC2 and double bulkheads we'd be looking at about 150, 180K EHP?
That's still significantly less than an armour tanked battleship even though it could potentially be carrying 3 of them inside.
I can easily see transporting 3 or 4 billion isk of fitted ships around inside one of these (moving a couple of decent mission ships around could easily reach 3 billion), I think the defences need to reflect that when we live in a world of cheap ganking .
Crazy idea... slightly less hull, more mids, more shield HP, and a 1000% bonus to the effects of overheating and heat damage absorbed. 500,000k EHP for 30 - 40 seconds then your modules are burnt out. As long as the Bowhead can fit officer defense mods, it's capable of properly hauling ships with officer defense mods. The EHP should stack against the value in the same fashion as on the ships in its hold. Whether that is a safe ratio or not is up to the person fitting officer mods to a ship.
Another way to do it is transfer the ship minus any expensive modules in the Bowhead, then ship the expensive bits separately in an interceptor.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
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Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:37:16 -
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Ix Method wrote:Lidia Caderu wrote:Quote:5% bonus to max velocity per level What is that for? Kiting. Duh.
At first I misread that as:
Killing.
Duh.
Do not run. We are your friends.
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Pokket Sez
Danneskjold Repossessions.
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Posted - 2015.01.21 19:54:22 -
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Hey MrRise, how's the Bowhead doing since the introduction back in Rhea. Can we have some numbers, produced, destroyed, etc.
I yet to see them "used" by players, except few brave souls ... Oh wait I just saw one today. |
Leonis Perthshire
Broke and Famous Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:49:09 -
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Pokket Sez wrote:Hey MrRise, how's the Bowhead doing since the introduction back in Rhea. Can we have some numbers, produced, destroyed, etc.
I yet to see them "used" by players, except few brave souls ... Oh wait I just saw one today.
Am interested on this also and fitting would be cool.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
2199
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Posted - 2015.01.23 02:21:36 -
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https://zkillboard.com/ship/34328/losses/
They are getting used. But some people are still waiting for the prices to lower
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Leonis Perthshire
Broke and Famous Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:30:58 -
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yes the price is still hight but i love the idea of using this ship.
GÇ£If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you donGÇÖt fight, you canGÇÖt win!GÇ¥ GÇô Eren Jaeger
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