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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1041
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Posted - 2014.11.11 02:06:58 -
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Alex Daddario wrote:
Although the most useful post (and I will be taking it up with said people) I am afraid to say that some of those stations around Caldari Prime are in fact Gallente owned :D Certainly the one I am residing in is.
Oh I know, got to keep your friends close, but your competition closer after all!
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
3369
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Posted - 2014.11.11 02:11:59 -
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Alex Daddario wrote:As a Gallente citizen and ex resident of Gallente Prime, I would like to know why there are no stations on my home planet?
We already put a carrier on your home planet. Now you want a station?
Wow, you're greedy!
Well, you know what they say... 'Give a mouse a cookie...'
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Internal Affairs
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Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2014.11.11 02:31:37 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Alex Daddario wrote:As a Gallente citizen and ex resident of Gallente Prime, I would like to know why there are no stations on my home planet?
We already put a carrier on your home planet. Now you want a station too? Well, you know what they say... 'Give a mouse a cookie...' You know you want to... |
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
1535
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Posted - 2014.11.11 02:54:15 -
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Because this forum clearly lacked a thread for racist commentary and general ignorance.
When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.11.11 03:25:23 -
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Didn't the Federation move their capital world to Villore? Why not just bring up your complaints there? |
Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2014.11.11 05:47:46 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Because this forum clearly lacked a thread for racist commentary and general ignorance. It is so good to have that problem fixed now, isn't it? |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1597
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Posted - 2014.11.11 07:57:13 -
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Alex Daddario wrote:As a Gallente citizen and ex resident of Gallente Prime, I would like to know why there are no stations on my home planet?
Those vermin living on Caldari Prime have a multitude of station orbiting them, which, I have no problem with. However, I would like some on Gallente Prime. We own the system, we certainly own the planet, so why no stations to park my clone contract at, or to chill on my off days.
Just something I would like to know/ get a station built xD
So what not everyone was born on Gallente Prime.
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:26:53 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Didn't the Federation move their capital world to Villore? Why not just bring up your complaints there?
More-or-less.
The legislative capitol of the Federation is on Villore. The Office of the President and the executive capitol of the Federation is on Ladistier. The Supreme Court is located on the judicial capitol of Parts.
Villore IV is generally recognized as the de facto capitol world of the Federation after it was moved away from Gallente Prime for security reasons.
The existence of three political homeworlds is meant to be a symbolic emphasis of the division of the branches of government and their separate, but equal, duties.
More to the point, however, is that her complaints shouldn't be taken to any of these places. If a station were to be constructed around Gallente Prime, it would be the purview of whatever corporation or executive administration was going to put forth the capital and labor to have it constructed; who, in turn, would seek approval for the construction contract through the local administrative authority of whatever system and/or planet it was to be constructed in.
A bit of research to contact the appropriate body would be necessary, not to mention the will to have a station built in the first place by an entity with the resources and permission to do so.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1407
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Posted - 2014.11.12 09:56:47 -
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Lets bring Justice for Caldari Prime to Villore IV then.
What should we get on menu? - Planetary bombing - Occupation - Dropping of titan - Starting racist riots - Defacing gallentean monuments - Attacking gallentean citizens on Villore VI only because the are gallentean - Beating protesting against racism gallenteans with police force...
But you know, on other hand, WE ARE NOT RACISTS AS GALLENTEANS. Lets just destroy Federation and won't let gallenteans ever do what they did to our Caldari Prime to any other planet.
(however, returning gallenteans all this menu could be... edifying) |
Alabath Schmidt
Gradient
9
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Posted - 2014.11.12 15:36:46 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Kiera Minaris wrote:Who is this Kim person everyone is talking about? Oh hai! You must be new to the Intergalactic Summit. Let me give you some pointers on a few key famous persons you will meet: There's Miss Kim, and she is Caldari. No other descriptors required! She fights for the State and made her personal goal to see the Federation destroyed. She is quite popular because of that! Mister Antoliere is a silly Gallente. He likes potatoes, frog legs and saying "oui, oui". He's also a stereotype. ... There are many others out there that you should definitely meet!
Oh my goodness. I am dying. Anslo, you never told me you were a reporter! This thread is a gem. A real gem. You don't find new, inspired racism like this every day. Between DK and Nauplius, classic racism was growing stale and overdone. |
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1410
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:28:10 -
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Alabath Schmidt wrote: Oh my goodness. I am dying. Anslo, you never told me you were a reporter! This thread is a gem. A real gem. You don't find new, inspired racism like this every day. Between DK and Nauplius, classic racism was growing stale and overdone.
Thanks for another amusing comment from a gallentean lapdog, who started talking on this forum with insults (please, find her very first post on this forum, it is quite... explaining).
For all the readers, I implore to not take words of this gallentean person for truth, as they neither contain argument, nor facts. Of course, I am not a racist, like this gallentean claims, she is like all these gallenteans on Caldari Prime, who were racists and were attacking Caldari citizens only because they were Caldari (please check newsreports from Caldari Prime right after the war has started).
Amount of insults and lies on this media is overwhelming. Dear readers, please verify all words and don't take any claims without proofs, thanks! |
James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
933
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:38:45 -
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Alex Daddario wrote:As a Gallente citizen and ex resident of Gallente Prime, I would like to know why there are no stations on my home planet?
Those vermin living on Caldari Prime have a multitude of station orbiting them, which, I have no problem with. However, I would like some on Gallente Prime. We own the system, we certainly own the planet, so why no stations to park my clone contract at, or to chill on my off days.
Just something I would like to know/ get a station built xD Simple really, an extra twinkle might spoil the view.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
46
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Posted - 2014.11.13 00:12:43 -
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Take heed your careless tongue, Alex, lest someone make time to slice it off.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1412
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Posted - 2014.11.13 00:36:24 -
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I would. |
Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
72
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Posted - 2014.11.13 05:08:58 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Kiera Minaris wrote:Who is this Kim person everyone is talking about? Oh hai! You must be new to the Intergalactic Summit. Let me give you some pointers on a few key famous persons you will meet: There's Miss Kim, and she is Caldari. No other descriptors required! She fights for the State and made her personal goal to see the Federation destroyed. She is quite popular because of that! There's Mister Anslo and he's a reporter. That shoots people! He works for the Scope and does shady business. A very abrasive person to talk with! Mister Yaken works for Mister Anslo and he's also a reporter. That shoots people! Notice the pattern? He's nicer than Mister Anslo and is also a proud Caldari, but less fervent than Miss Kim! Miss Muck Racker is also a reporter. That actual reports things! Usually very silly and uncanny things, but things nontheles! Very reserved about her activities and pursuits. Mister Nauplius is mean and likes to murder people. Minmatar mostly. He eats them too! I mean, he drinks them, with a straw! Did I mention he is mean? Actually he just wants a friend that believes in the same religion he does. Miss Funk does the same things that Mister Nauplius does but is more reserved about it. As result, she is more popular! There's this Cardinal person I don't really know who he is. He likes to banish people for reasons. Lady Aspenstar is kind and friendly. And she's an Amarr devout that does good. Knows more than she shows. Lord Draconis is a holder noble person that has huge estates and is very serious about business. Mister Cane is an Angel! A bad one at that! Deal with caution! Miss Mika is a doctor, a medic, and a logistics. She heals people and ships! She has a strange professional relationship with Miss Kim. Mister Antoliere is a silly Gallente. He likes potatoes, frog legs and saying "oui, oui". He's also a stereotype. Mister Stitcher is not a member of Sansha's Nation. I have no idea who started that rumor. Mister Foley is strange and did some horrible things to a turkey once. He's also a Dust Bunny! Mister Thal is a Templar and fights for the Amarr! ... There are many others out there that you should definitely meet!
Hehe now I know who to go to for intel
"Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care."
- Anonymous
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Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
72
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Posted - 2014.11.13 05:09:56 -
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Anslo wrote:Kale do you ever not post liquid ****?
*eats popcorn, waits for more rantings*
"Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care."
- Anonymous
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Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
810
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Posted - 2014.11.13 13:40:01 -
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Oh I see someone pushed the call button labeled Kim.
Anyways why WOULD the Gallente choose to muddy up THEIR view of the stars when they can just use that stolen planet across the way? |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
748
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:09:55 -
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Alex Daddario wrote:Gwen Ikiryo wrote:Miss Daddario,
You might not have noticed, but Gallente Prime has a lot of moons. Seventeen, I think - Eighteen? Gods, I can't even remember.
My point is, it would be perilous to put anything bigger then a weather satellite in orbit of that planet. What about a station orbiting one of the moons then? I am sure I can find examples where this has been done before.
Or one of the moons could have a station constructed right into into. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
748
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:12:15 -
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Avio Yaken wrote:Alex Daddario wrote:Kale Silence wrote: Either you talk dumb or your translator is broken.
You must be a Caldari citizen :) Yes the Sebiestor is obviously a Caldari citizen
Its possible to be a citizen and be born else where you know. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4132
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:59:13 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Avio Yaken wrote:Alex Daddario wrote:Kale Silence wrote: Either you talk dumb or your translator is broken.
You must be a Caldari citizen :) Yes the Sebiestor is obviously a Caldari citizen Its possible to be a citizen and be born else where you know.
Can we pause for a moment to savour the fact that the FDU pilot clearly knows the nature of the State better than everyone else in that exchange?
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Iliyan Vertai
186
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:37:51 -
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Except that you cannot be a full citizen if you are born outside of the State. Only a resident. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
71
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:45:04 -
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I would find it amazing if not a single Minmatar was born within The State in it's entire history. It would be the most amazing feat of genism in all history.
No racial segregation is that perfect. End of story. |
Iliyan Vertai
187
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:47:57 -
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Jvpiter wrote:
I would find it amazing if not a single Minmatar was born within The State in it's entire history. It would be the most amazing feat of genism in all history.
No racial segregation is that perfect. End of story.
I was responding to the comment about citizens being born out of the State, not Minmatar being born in the State. Reading comprehension is your friend. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
71
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:55:34 -
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Iliyan Vertai wrote:I was responding to the comment about citizens being born out of the State, not Minmatar being born in the State. Reading comprehension is your friend.
Did I dispute anything you said? My response is to the same conversational chain.
I can educate you in the finer details of logic and semantics if you'd like, Deteis.
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Iliyan Vertai
231
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:06:03 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Iliyan Vertai wrote:I was responding to the comment about citizens being born out of the State, not Minmatar being born in the State. Reading comprehension is your friend. Did I dispute anything you said? My response is to the same conversational chain. I can educate you in the finer details of logic and semantics if you'd like, Deteis.
You know what? Sure, go for it. |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
431
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:26:49 -
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Alex Daddario wrote:As a Gallente citizen and ex resident of Gallente Prime, I would like to know why there are no stations on my home planet?
Those vermin living on Caldari Prime have a multitude of station orbiting them, which, I have no problem with. However, I would like some on Gallente Prime. We own the system, we certainly own the planet, so why no stations to park my clone contract at, or to chill on my off days.
Just something I would like to know/ get a station built xD
Racism has no place in the Federation. We welcome all with open arms, and.. *cough*. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1413
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Posted - 2014.11.14 10:40:43 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Alex Daddario wrote:As a Gallente citizen and ex resident of Gallente Prime, I would like to know why there are no stations on my home planet?
Those vermin living on Caldari Prime have a multitude of station orbiting them, which, I have no problem with. However, I would like some on Gallente Prime. We own the system, we certainly own the planet, so why no stations to park my clone contract at, or to chill on my off days.
Just something I would like to know/ get a station built xD Racism has no place in the Federation. We welcome all with open arms, and.. *cough*. Tell it to Caldari on Caldari Prime, that were attacked because they were Caldari right before the war has started (actually, it was the main reason to attack the Federation and liberate our planet from gallente occupants). Haven't you watched news for that period of time, when gallenteans were defacing Caldari monuments with losungs "EXTERMINATE ALL CALDARI"?!... Was it this thing, that gallente cops were telling, while beating Caldari, who were protesting against gallente racism?!...
"No place in Federation?!"... Kiss my nya! |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4141
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Posted - 2014.11.14 17:08:34 -
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I will agree that it's hard for a Caldari born outside the State (and by outside, I obviously don't mean on a Corporate Station outside our territory, but born as a citizen of another nation) and even harder for a non-Caldari to become a citizen but it is possible with very hard work.
It involves a lot of study to learn our ways - both the obvious and overt and the subtle and unofficial. It involves a lot of effort to change the way you live your life and embrace State culture and harmony. You have to rededicate yourself to the State and it's goals and place them ahead of your own - like we do. A lot of people are psychologically and constitutionally incapable - and we bear those people no ill-will, but they can never become one of us.
But for those who can reinvent themselves and rededicate their families to the Way, it is possible.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Iliyan Vertai
434
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Posted - 2014.11.14 22:36:40 -
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I'm afraid you are confusing full citizenship and official residency. To be clear on the matter, I shall quote a textbook that details the situation:
"Due to the socially demanding nature of Caldari culture and the various bureaucratic hurdles involved, the State has the lowest rate of immigration among all the empires. Additionally, full citizenship and its myriad benefits can never be granted to anyone born elsewhere." ((EVE Source, page 114)) |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4145
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Posted - 2014.11.15 02:42:38 -
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Iliyan Vertai wrote:I'm afraid you are confusing full citizenship and official residency. To be clear on the matter, I shall quote a textbook that details the situation:
"Due to the socially demanding nature of Caldari culture and the various bureaucratic hurdles involved, the State has the lowest rate of immigration among all the empires. Additionally, full citizenship and its myriad benefits can never be granted to anyone born elsewhere." ((EVE Source, page 114))
I think your textbook underestimates the effects of large buckets of isk. Corporations have been known to award citizenships to capsuleers.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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