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Dissention Prime
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:09:55 -
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As per the title I am looking to get the most bang for my buck with fighting in FW areas. I am wondering what the best solo frig/cruiser would be with a booster. Stipulation is that it would actually be able to get fights. I know a lot of people will just run from certain ships, or not even engage.
Also, would full snakes be viable to use in LS or has the insta-locking epidemic spread so much that pods get lost all the the time now?
Thanks in advance for any advice offered.
edit: Booster would be running a t3 with either armor/siege + info + skirmish @ t2 with faction implant. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:13:50 -
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The Worm is the best ship for that. Travelling long distances with an expensive pod through LowSec is completely save. You should place your booster alt inside the complex about 22km away from the capture beacon, cloak up and immediately switch back to the main, to not miss incoming traffic.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.11.11 13:06:36 -
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Good luck getting a fight in a worm. Any sensible person won't try to solo you. The only traffic you will see would be people who don't know what a worm is, or bait for a gang.
For solo WITH a booster, I think I would focus more on cruisers. The omen navy issue is good, Stabber fleet issue is pretty good. You will probably still get attempted blobs though. There are plenty of other ships, the trick is getting something engageable, and even the 2 cruiseers I jsut mentioed are just going to be blob targets.
All great men have mustaches
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Domino Vyse
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.11.11 13:10:16 -
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Pods are pretty safe in lowsec now actually |
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:34:03 -
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I've been getting lots of fights in a Retribution on my FW character. People seem to under estimate this ship because no one seems to flee from me... or they just doubt me because my FW has a name even dumber than this char.
[Retribution, PVP]
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4x Gatling Pulse Laser II (Conflagration S)
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:54:23 -
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Smartest would be (regardless what those people say) a Garmur with snakes and a linkboat. Garmur then goes the better of 6km/s cold, points to 55km+ and shoots missiles at that range. Try to beat that in a solo FW scenario.
(It doesn't get fights, but it might easily have the highest win-loss ratio once you get one)
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Dissention Prime
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.11 20:25:55 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Smartest would be (regardless what those people say) a Garmur with snakes and a linkboat. Garmur then goes the better of 6km/s cold, points to 55km+ and shoots missiles at that range. Try to beat that in a solo FW scenario.
(It doesn't get fights, but it might easily have the highest win-loss ratio once you get one)
I am specifically looking to get fights, not just fly around and be avoided the entire time.
edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can. |
Fret Thiesant
The Imperial LansDrahd LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2014.11.11 22:24:36 -
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As someone else said the garmur.
No instalocking isnt a thing if u spam war far as pods gop. Smartbombing cruisers on gates are a thing though.
You will probably be bored of the garmur fast though as it is stupidly easy to fly with links/implants. |
Dissention Prime
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.11 22:49:53 -
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Fret Thiesant wrote:
No instalocking isnt a thing if u spam war far as pods gop. Smartbombing cruisers on gates are a thing though.
You have 8 pod kills in lowsec so far in November... I believe you are giving biased advice on the pod situation.
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Nalena Linova
Project Kairos Dei-Telum
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Posted - 2014.11.12 03:01:35 -
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Unless you're incredibly unlucky with lag you won't lose a pod to an instalocker in lowsec provided you spam warp when you hit structure.
Smart bombing ships on gates are an issue however. If you plan to operate in Black Rise, add Santo Trafficante to your contact list and never warp gate to gate if he's in system. That should eliminate about 80% of your pod deaths. |
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Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
69343
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Posted - 2014.11.12 09:56:44 -
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Dissention Prime wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:Smartest would be (regardless what those people say) a Garmur with snakes and a linkboat. Garmur then goes the better of 6km/s cold, points to 55km+ and shoots missiles at that range. Try to beat that in a solo FW scenario.
(It doesn't get fights, but it might easily have the highest win-loss ratio once you get one) I am specifically looking to get fights, not just fly around and be avoided the entire time. edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can. If cruisers is where I am going to be able to find decent fights at some suggestions would be welcome.
Since you want to focus on the quality of the fight rather than easy killmails I would suggest you to watch videos of other solo pvpers (both linked and unlinked). You will both get a good idea about how different ships perform and you will learn much about how to fly them.
Some examples on ship types could be:
Kiting: Kovorix Omen Navy issue (nano omen with MAAR tank) with skirmish links + armour resist. (Performs perfectly fine without links) Gila with skirmish links + shield resist Rail Deimos with skirmish links + armour resist
Be careful when taking gateguns with these ships.
Brawling: Dualrep Deimos with armour links + speed and/or tackle range link (Can also go without links but tanks like a boss with them) Dualrep Vexor (or Vexor navy issue) with armour links + speed and/or tackle range link (Good brawler without links but they will allow you to tank 3 or more cruisers)
The ships I have listed are some of the cookie cutter solo ships and many people know that. You should be able to google them for more info and fits.
One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:26:19 -
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Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
69350
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:31:09 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.
It's not about tricking people into honour 1v1 brawls. It-¿s about going against multiple enemies and comming out on top.
One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp
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Ovv Topik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
685
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Posted - 2014.11.12 14:41:13 -
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Dissention Prime wrote:
I am specifically looking to get fights, not just fly around and be avoided the entire time.
edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this.
This statement does not match up to your opening query at all. If you want to know the best ship to fly with links, then yes the Garmur and Worm would be the top 2.
But what you say you are looking for in the quote above, is the opposite of that "I care more about how my killboard looks to other people, than I do about how good I actually am" playstyle.
You sure as hell dont need links to win far more fights than you lose, and kill tonnes of stuff far bigger and blinger than you.
So just choose one or the other. If you choose the latter, just start learning what fit beats what fit. Try fits like the triple neut Tris, or the TD Slasher to take on bigger targets.
"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
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Tung Yoggi
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2014.11.12 15:05:33 -
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The fact with offgrid booster is that you will be able to turn regular ships into something quite fierce.
As fights in "strong" ships are harder to get - worm, garmur, etc. (not mentioning the fact that you might get blobbed even more), i would suggest you fly apparently harmless, or at least common ships; and use the booster to enhance their capabilities.
So if i were you, i would invest in plain T1 frigates and cruisers, you will get more fights, until the day you get referred to as "that perma-linked baiting ******"; this very day when you'll have to move to another fw warzone, or just to 0.0. |
Dissention Prime
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:16:09 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights.
Don't be jealous that you are either unable to afford running more than one account to make a booster, or do not have enough isk to be able to purchase a booster.
I am simply using the every advantage I have available to me. |
The Drunken Taoist
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2014.11.13 01:28:24 -
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Dissention Prime wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights. Don't be jealous that you are either unable to afford running more than one account to make a booster, or do not have enough isk to be able to purchase a booster. I am simply using the every advantage I have available to me.
I personally don't have a problem with people using boosters if they are trying to fight out-manned/outgunned etc etc.
My view however is you shouldn't be claiming to be 'solo'. As most people I know who 'solo' with boosters are the biggest bunch of whiners and crybabies in eve.
If you want to fight outmatched then go for it just don't claim to be solo!. If you are looking for 'quality' fights then using every advantage you have available will actually diminish the quality as you will often outmatch your opponent who may be 'true solo'.
Using every advantage is for when you are trying to achieve a specific goal like capping a system, area denial or fulfilling a contract hit say.
My 2isk. Go get blown up! |
Fret Thiesant
The Imperial LansDrahd LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2014.11.13 09:02:47 -
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Yea sorry if I misunderstood depends on your definintion. I figured you meant an "IWin" button. I prefer the algos solo, don't use links, and can take on small frig gangs. I lose a fair amount of them ofcourse. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.11.13 09:50:28 -
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Dissention Prime wrote: I am simply using the every advantage I have available to me.
Then be honest and say so from the beginning that it's all about winning fights. I have absolutely no problem with ganking.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Santo Trafficante
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2014.11.13 13:00:37 -
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Dissention Prime wrote:As per the title I am looking to get the most bang for my buck with fighting in FW areas. I am wondering what the best solo frig/cruiser would be with a booster. Stipulation is that it would actually be able to get fights. I know a lot of people will just run from certain ships, or not even engage.
Also, would full snakes be viable to use in LS or has the insta-locking epidemic spread so much that pods get lost all the the time now?
Thanks in advance for any advice offered.
edit: Booster would be running a t3 with either armor/siege + info + skirmish @ t2 with faction implant.
Can you give me ur PvP character name(the one you want to fly with sna....boosts), i want to send you some free isk. |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:08:29 -
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I think your valuable service will see increasing demand with the next release hitting TQ. ;)
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Rain Amekage
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.14 03:10:32 -
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Mizhir wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights. It's not about tricking people into honour 1v1 brawls. It-¿s about going against multiple enemies and comming out on top.
Very sound advice here. There is no such thing as an Honor fight in Low-Sec. If it happens, count your blessings and move on before someone notices.
If you get into FW for "dueling" then you need to examine your resources. FW is simply one versus many, or small gang PVP. Sometimes Larger fleets.
Personally, I recommend T3's if you want to survive. They cost a pretty penny, but generally you're not going to have a Brawling Deimos fleet ready to brutally demolish you. if you understand what you're doing.
"Remember the sacrifices made, and die upon a mountain of your enemies."
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London James
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.14 15:58:47 -
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Mizhir wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights. It's not about tricking people into honour 1v1 brawls. It-¿s about going against multiple enemies and comming out on top.
This. I will often take fights of 1v many to see how long I can survive.. partly due to the fact I have no patience waiting for the "true" 1v1. Even if you don't get any kills, successfully piloting around 3-4 enemy pilots, destroying drones, taking pot shots, is still good experience. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.15 11:39:07 -
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London James wrote:Mizhir wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Dissention Prime wrote: edit: I guess I should emphasize that winning is not entirely the objective of this. I am looking to be able to get good fights, and win when I can.
... says the person who has to rely on off-grid boosts to trick people into "solo" fights. It's not about tricking people into honour 1v1 brawls. It-¿s about going against multiple enemies and comming out on top. This. I will often take fights of 1v many to see how long I can survive.. partly due to the fact I have no patience waiting for the "true" 1v1. Even if you don't get any kills, successfully piloting around 3-4 enemy pilots, destroying drones, taking pot shots, is still good experience. Yeah, but this scenario is not what was originally asked for by the OP. BTW, you can get that also truly solo with special fit ships and some imps/boosters. Multiboxing is a valid play style though ... for me I know it would kill the fun, because it requires meta-coordination outside of the sandbox ... which is scalable, i.e. why not add another char to even win more often / earn more ISK? This finally ridicules all achievements in the sandbox ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Rovain Sess
Obsidian Cadre
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Posted - 2014.11.15 17:34:11 -
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Interesting questions. My two cents...
You can still find solo fights, gotta be patient and persistent. I find that initially a boosted newcomer will get some fights, but in FW low most peeps know their neighborhoods, and unless you are fairly nomadic, or just say you know what I do come and get it, your victims will adjust. Since living in your war zone is part of FW (for most), FW guys are pretty familiar with whose usually around and what they generally do. I'm thinking that'd be you.
I'd definitely suggest you use a ship that seems easy to beat but fitted right becomes a GOD! Most capsuleers will take on things they believe they can beat so think along those lines. If your sitting in a Garmur and mad because you can't get fights - look in the mirror.
Also, the engagement profiles in FW low is somewhat set because of the mechanics. T1 frigs in Novices, etc. So you gotta find a ship that suits the profile you wanna engage in or have several on hand so you can switch tactics.
As to the subject of honor - that comes from you, not your opponent. My definition of honor is always giving a good fight in local, and being appreciative of the opportunity for a fight.
Happy hunting,
Rov
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Plato Forko
Forko Nanorobotics
101
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Posted - 2014.11.15 18:40:06 -
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Booster alts aren't worth it for solo. You get the best bang for buck by being smarter about how you fit your ships and what you engage, that's it.
There's nothin' like skating away from a fight with the hull on fire, some mods burned out and a cargohold full of loot.
See my terribad blog for stories.
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Crimson Draufgange
Extreme Overkill Inc.
9
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Posted - 2014.11.16 18:04:52 -
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Santo Trafficante wrote:Dissention Prime wrote:As per the title I am looking to get the most bang for my buck with fighting in FW areas. I am wondering what the best solo frig/cruiser would be with a booster. Stipulation is that it would actually be able to get fights. I know a lot of people will just run from certain ships, or not even engage.
Also, would full snakes be viable to use in LS or has the insta-locking epidemic spread so much that pods get lost all the the time now?
Thanks in advance for any advice offered.
edit: Booster would be running a t3 with either armor/siege + info + skirmish @ t2 with faction implant. Can you give me ur PvP character name(the one you want to fly with sna....boosts), i want to send you some free isk.
That Santo guy just wants to smartbomb your pod. I don't actually know if he gives out ISK though.
Beware the Santo of low sec.
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Artuard Envien
Rent Is DUE TODAY Relentlessly Reclaiming
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:21:43 -
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Crimson Draufgange wrote:Santo Trafficante wrote:Dissention Prime wrote:As per the title I am looking to get the most bang for my buck with fighting in FW areas. I am wondering what the best solo frig/cruiser would be with a booster. Stipulation is that it would actually be able to get fights. I know a lot of people will just run from certain ships, or not even engage.
Also, would full snakes be viable to use in LS or has the insta-locking epidemic spread so much that pods get lost all the the time now?
Thanks in advance for any advice offered.
edit: Booster would be running a t3 with either armor/siege + info + skirmish @ t2 with faction implant. Can you give me ur PvP character name(the one you want to fly with sna....boosts), i want to send you some free isk. That Santo guy just wants to smartbomb your pod. I don't actually know if he gives out ISK though. Beware the Santo of low sec.
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Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2014.11.18 10:56:18 -
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Isn't 'Solo + Booster' an oxymoron?
It sounds like the OP is finding Eve a bit too challenging. I hear World of Warcraft just released an expansion...most MMOs are basically the same, right? |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:39:51 -
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without booster you are mostly on the loosing end, since everyone else uses it its basically mandatory for "solo". Same for scouts, because of idiotic gate horizon in eve noone can overcome "solo", you need an alt watching other side. Good for CCPs subscription numbers, bad for us. |
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