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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:02:56 -
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Just like the subject: +1 if you want to have CCP have both the Old/New UI as a toggle feature in settings.
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
304
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:09:32 -
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-1
Why would you want them to spend resources maintaining two systems indefinitely? After a short intro period the old system should be removed entirely, assuming it is actually good. |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
382
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:16:49 -
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Shizuken wrote:-1
Why would you want them to spend resources maintaining two systems indefinitely? After a short intro period the old system should be removed entirely, assuming it is actually good.
There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. You apparently do not know this - a UI is such a complex bit, and this IS the interface for EVE - this breaks and the game breaks, so you don't mess around with it as a simple one switch change, regardless... and the damage control for a mess is way more resource intensive than support for a toggle feature. I would hate to have you as a Admin, your philosophy is the way of... pain. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
820
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:21:46 -
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-1 Only because I feel that both UIs are fairly bleh (can only judge the new one from what I have seen thus far), and that they are approaching UI changes from the wrong angle to begin with. If anything, this would be the perfect time to open things up to allow for community UI modding. I find it odd that, at over ten years in, a game that offers as much customization as Eve, is still forcing a specific UI base upon everyone. |
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:24:04 -
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I'd rather keep only the old one rather than replace everything with ALL GREY AND DULL buttons. kthx.
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
305
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:32:15 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Shizuken wrote:-1
Why would you want them to spend resources maintaining two systems indefinitely? After a short intro period the old system should be removed entirely, assuming it is actually good. There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. You apparently do not know this - a UI is such a complex bit, and this IS the interface for EVE - this breaks and the game breaks, so you don't mess around with it as a simple one switch change, regardless... and the damage control for a mess is way more resource intensive than support for a toggle feature. I would hate to have you as a Admin, your philosophy is the way of... pain.
I said nothing of just jumping in without a backup, or of failing to properly test a new system before going live with it. Once you introduce the new system and work out the kinks it is pointless to have a development team actively maintain two systems that perform the same task. It doubles your upkeep costs and generates no additional revenue. Plus it adds needless complexity when releasing new features as they must be designed around two systems. At some point you have to abandon the legacy system to capture all the benefits of the new one. Otherwise there is no point in upgrading. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
5977
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:51:31 -
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"There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. "
Citation needed.
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Paranoid Loyd
2580
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:53:54 -
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-1
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1669
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:57:41 -
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eventually people are going to keep unchecking features to the point where CCP can't make any improvements to preserve the old UI. |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1280
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:31:31 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:"There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. "
Citation needed. Yeah, I don't recall ever doing this in development. Sure, you keep the old code around, but you don't maintain both systems, that's a stupid waste of resources.
CCP has no sense of humour.
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marVLs
671
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:37:36 -
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New UI is awesome ^^ |
Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
167
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:23:30 -
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-1 Why keep old designs that will add extra things to be kept maintained.
Also, never going to happen. I'll bet every last ISK I have on it! |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
384
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:03:07 -
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okie...
This should be good... apparently no one here was here for the whole Incarna adventure...
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
526
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:13:17 -
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But there is no new UI, it's just a reskin.
A bad reskin. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:25:42 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:okie...
This should be good... apparently no one here was here for the whole Incarna adventure...
Since we are now talking about unrelated things, did you know a giraffe was stuck inside my bookshelf's pajamas?
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88199
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:34:45 -
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There is an option to turn off any new feature in eve that you don't like.
Just press ALT+SHIFT+Q and hit OK.
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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
12902
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:35:59 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:There is an option to turn off any new feature in eve that you don't like.
Just press ALT+SHIFT+Q and hit OK. Yeesss... let the goon flow through you. RELEASE YOUR ANGER
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
458
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:36:52 -
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I dont even like the new icon for skillbooks. Boring. They changed that ages ago.
You'll get over it. |
Steve Wingyip
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:38:47 -
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+1 I think the new UI looks horrible and dry. I love the colour in the one we have now. It will be a really annoying thing to have the UI I have loved for so long being changed for their stupid reason of "Studies show that icons without colour are remembered better".
Please give us the option just to have the old icons at least.
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Ria Nieyli
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:41:02 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:There is an option to turn off any new feature in eve that you don't like.
Just press ALT+SHIFT+Q and hit OK.
Can we turn off the option to turn off new features?
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Steve Wingyip
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:45:44 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:But there is no new UI, it's just a reskin.
A bad reskin.
This!
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
924
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Posted - 2014.11.13 02:07:07 -
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No. **** off with your whining about changes.
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Serene Repose
1615
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Posted - 2014.11.13 02:53:34 -
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Things change. Adapt or die.
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WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
3025
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Posted - 2014.11.13 06:22:53 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:But there is no new UI, it's just a reskin.
A bad reskin. I feel like this should be repeated, sometimes in the enhanced form, until CCP scraps this current New UI idea and make a better, coloured one.
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Celina Shi
Intergalactic systems
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Posted - 2014.11.13 06:35:26 -
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-1
No no toggle setting, i like new things, i like change. Make this game new, dont dwell in the past. |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.11.13 06:40:39 -
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I won't give a vote. I both like and dislike the UI for various reasons. I don't dislike it enough to remove it completely, just adapt it with the old skin a little more. |
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
254
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Posted - 2014.11.13 11:22:21 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:
There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. You apparently do not know this - a UI is such a complex bit, and this IS the interface for EVE - this breaks and the game breaks, so you don't mess around with it as a simple one switch change, regardless... and the damage control for a mess is way more resource intensive than support for a toggle feature. I would hate to have you as a Admin, your philosophy is the way of... pain.
Bullshit |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
925
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Posted - 2014.11.13 14:04:30 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Shizuken wrote:-1
Why would you want them to spend resources maintaining two systems indefinitely? After a short intro period the old system should be removed entirely, assuming it is actually good. There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. You apparently do not know this - a UI is such a complex bit, and this IS the interface for EVE - this breaks and the game breaks, so you don't mess around with it as a simple one switch change, regardless... and the damage control for a mess is way more resource intensive than support for a toggle feature. I would hate to have you as a Admin, your philosophy is the way of... pain.
Please name one major brand that gives people the option to choose which UI to choose. Google, Apple and Microsoft sure don't.
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1089
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:34:31 -
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WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame wrote:I'd rather keep only the old one rather than replace everything with ALL GREY AND DULL buttons. kthx.
So add color to them. +1 dev story
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
There is a rule in UI deployment, you always have a option to revert. You apparently do not know this - a UI is such a complex bit, and this IS the interface for EVE - this breaks and the game breaks, so you don't mess around with it as a simple one switch change, regardless... and the damage control for a mess is way more resource intensive than support for a toggle feature. I would hate to have you as a Admin, your philosophy is the way of... pain.
There's a rule in all development, called version control. You can revert from anywhere to anywhere. (Might be a pain in the arse but it's supposed to be possible)
Thing is, the UI isn't broken and resistance to change is not going to make CCP fix anything. If there's a big backlash they might consider changes if there are legitimate complaints, but right now your complaint is simply "I don't like it".
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Kaaeliaa
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:43:21 -
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"Waaaaaaah, I don't like it" isn't helping anything. If you want to improve the UI, go test it and post your thoughts and concerns in the feedback thread. Or post your thoughts on what needs to be improved in the current UI.
If you're not willing to do that, sit down and STFU - it's like people who don't vote complaining about elected officials.
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