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North Black
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.13 10:23:23 -
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As a seasoned veteran of another popular MMO I am 2 days into a trial of this game and so far I am hugely impressed. A chat channel dedicated to helping new players? the best you could hope for is a response in the game I have come from and it would probably be sarcastic and/or insulting. A GM contacting me voluntarily to check how I was enjoying the game and if I had any problems ? You would have absolutely no chance of that in the game I have been playing. From afking for hours with nothing to do a few days ago playing my old MMO, I am now hugely excited about the prospects of developing my capsuleer down the mirriad of skill paths available to me. ( ps there's nothing in my cargo hold, I promise ^^ )
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6783
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Posted - 2014.11.13 10:52:37 -
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welcome.
Word of warning, a lot of what would get you banned in other mmos is considered legitimate game-play here. that includes (but not limited to) Scamming, theft, non-consequential pvp and abject humiliation (to a degree).
You are never meant to feel safe in new eden, someone can always ruin your day in eve (even in highsec). best make peace with that sooner rather than later. it gives the place an edgy fear that many of us fell in love with
you can trust the advice in this sub forum as trolling is explicitly forbidden here but is rampant in the other sub forums ( general discussion in particular).
o7
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Azda Ja
BUMP POW
357
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Posted - 2014.11.13 11:26:10 -
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For all the trolling and complaining one sees in other subforums, even this one from time to time, it seems people forget how helpful the devs and the community actually are, especially if one compares this game to other MMOs. I've been around for only a couple of months but have been totally blow away by the dev involvement on the forums and the overall community. Granted according to threadnaughts around here this is a fairly new approach(or it's deemed non existant), but I think it deserves merit. I've not seen one other video game (let alone MMO) forum with quite as much community input as I have here.
Oh, and the ISDs are like a well tuned immune system when it comes to handling trolls. So that helps.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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Jurico Elemenohpe
Laughing Coffin's
3
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Posted - 2014.11.13 11:30:22 -
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I never got convoed :( CCPplzstopdiscriminatingagainstawesome. On topic, I've never thought about that.. Until I read your post, I forgot that help channels weren't the norm in MMOs. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6786
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Posted - 2014.11.13 11:35:56 -
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normal mmos don't make your head spin just navigating the ui.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.11.13 11:49:31 -
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This thread, it made me look up my chat logs to see my first ever casual GM interaction. Other games I've never seen the GM's except in the forum making a sticky about damage control due to drama or putting in automated canned responses to your queries. EVE was the first ever game where an actual GM actually talked to a player personally.
Heck I might as well post parts of the (heavily edited) chat of my first ever GM interaction. Looking at it now it makes me feel silly.
Channel ID: REDACTED Channel Name: Private Chat (REDACTED) Listener: Yang Aurilen Session started: 2013.07.22 11:58:24
n++[ 2013.07.22 11:58:33 ] REDACTED > Greetings, capsuleer! I am REDACTED here to assist you and ask if you have any questions so far. Are you new to EVE? n++[ 2013.07.22 11:58:47 ] Yang Aurilen > Uhm n++[ 2013.07.22 11:58:51 ] Yang Aurilen > not much I guess n++[ 2013.07.22 11:58:56 ] REDACTED > welcome back n++[ 2013.07.22 11:59:05 ] Yang Aurilen > learning the probe stuff from exploration
Even while giving me general advice the GM's of EVE is asking for actual player feedback(that I hope they'll actually listen too and not just ask them as part of procedure) generally impressed me as a newbie and made me stick to EVE. Heck looking at the dates it's been over a year since I joined EVE. I feel old.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
374
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Posted - 2014.11.13 14:30:03 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:This thread, it made me look up my chat logs to see my first ever casual GM interaction. Other games I've never seen the GM's except in the forum making a sticky about damage control due to drama or putting in automated canned responses to your queries. EVE was the first ever game where an actual GM actually talked to a player personally.
I have in WOW back in the days what now seems like an eternity, I was .. ahem ... scaling the walls ... near silithus what was later to become Ahn'qiraj, so this blue robed guy appeared and asked "how did you get here ?" my answer was "I walked" and he was like "well you're not supposed to be here" this was like what is it 10 years since wow was launched a few months before the user numbers just exploded.
As a side note you shouldn't publish discussions with a GM staff as it is a breach of EULA, though I'm not sure how it's interpreted in regarding to what you posted since GM's name is removed. |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
702
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:08:15 -
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May or may not have told the GM to shove it because I thought I might be getting scammed when they convoed me the first time.
www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Just want to chat? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6799
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:18:52 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Word of warning, a lot of what would get you banned in other mmos is considered legitimate game-play here. that includes (but not limited to) Scamming, theft, non-consequential pvp and abject humiliation (to a degree).
Consensual, Ralph. Non-consensual.
No such thing as non-consequential gameplay in my EVE.
Everything has consequences here, OP. Everything!
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6792
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:26:50 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Word of warning, a lot of what would get you banned in other mmos is considered legitimate game-play here. that includes (but not limited to) Scamming, theft, non-consequential pvp and abject humiliation (to a degree).
Consensual, Ralph. Non-consensual. No such thing as non-consequential gameplay in my EVE. Everything has consequences here, OP. Everything! Mr Epeen oh i agree with you on that but i tend to say it when talking to someone from another mmo where such a concept would be applicable. also yes , i am aware i cant spell for ****.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Samuel Triptee
Aliastra Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:27:20 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:May or may not have told the GM to shove it because I thought I might be getting scammed when they convoed me the first time.
This ^^^ truly describes EVE... players don't even trust the GMs.
It also helps to understand how valuable a group of trustworthy capsuleers will be to your career here in New Eden.
OP... Find a good crowd (corp) to hang with and EVE will become even larger than you thought.
Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6792
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:34:25 -
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Samuel Triptee wrote:
OP... Find a good crowd (corp) to hang with and EVE will become even larger than you thought.
yeah, thats actually a really good point.
We are the content in eve, not the npc interactions. ignore anyone that tells you to avoid player corps.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:04:41 -
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Samuel Triptee wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:May or may not have told the GM to shove it because I thought I might be getting scammed when they convoed me the first time. This ^^^ truly describes EVE... players don't even trust the GMs. As a new player, all I saw was a strange person contacting me and offering help for nothing in return, with no proof of credentials. That sets off all kinds of alarm bells in EvE.
In retrospect it was a bit silly, but a healthy dose of paranoia is always good to carry around with you in EvE. However, just talking to a strange character isn't dangerous really. They really can't do anything to scam you without some concession on your part - giving them items/isk , going somewhere lawless with them, joining their corporation, etc.
So, go talk to strangers.
www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Just want to chat? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
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Azda Ja
BUMP POW
357
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:13:56 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:So, go talk to strangers.
What about candy?
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6794
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:31:00 -
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Azda Ja wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:So, go talk to strangers. What about candy? its in the back of my ishkur
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:42:35 -
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Aaah. I never got to speak to a GM (well, not as a newbie) other that one time in Jita when they were doing a test swing to see if they can wield CCP Guard's banhammdr.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4809
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:48:38 -
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Azda Ja wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:So, go talk to strangers. What about candy?
If you come over to HED I have some candy there at the sun
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1825
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Posted - 2014.11.13 21:17:10 -
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I remember a while back, when I was getting a friend to try Eve, a GM got in touch with him and I went into paranoid-mode thinking someone was impersonating a CCP employee and trying to scam my friend. I was pleasantly surprised to see it was an actual GM.
Anyway, welcome to Eve! Good luck and fly dangerous!
ISD LackOfFaith
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.
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Clavain Conjoined
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.13 22:03:54 -
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North Black wrote:As a seasoned veteran of another popular MMO I am 2 days into a trial of this game and so far I am hugely impressed. A chat channel dedicated to helping new players? the best you could hope for is a response in the game I have come from and it would probably be sarcastic and/or insulting. A GM contacting me voluntarily to check how I was enjoying the game and if I had any problems ? You would have absolutely no chance of that in the game I have been playing. From afking for hours with nothing to do a few days ago playing my old MMO, I am now hugely excited about the prospects of developing my capsuleer down the mirriad of skill paths available to me. ( ps there's nothing in my cargo hold, I promise ^^ )
North
As a fellow newly-awakened capsuleer, I can't tell you how much I agree. This game is so... infectious. I'm still in the starting NPC corp and have only done the basic missions and SoE Arc; this content is considered by many to be the most boring part of EVE. The sheer complexity and beautiful intricacy of the game balance alone is staggering. I think this game is a work of art, in many ways. I haven't had the time to really dive into the game, but every day I am reading the forums and some sort of informative guide/post/blog etc. The community, the fear, the risk, the reward, the options, the seemingly endless possibilities... there isn't a day that goes by where I don't read about some aspect/gameplay of EVE that I didn't know about. No other game has ever truly captured my attention and impressed me more than EVE. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3610
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Posted - 2014.11.13 22:29:28 -
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I also thought that the early unsolicited GM contact I had was a scam.
Interestingly, I did not think the same of the first corp recruitment invite I received.
OP: We like to be nice here. New prey is always good, but you need to fatten the prey up before moving in for the slaughter. Expect that you'll lose ships, and never undock in anything that would make you upset to lose, and you will love EVE. Don't be *that person* that spends all of their ISK on one ship (a battleship, an exhumer, or whatever) early on and then loses it the third time they undock in it.
And most of all, don't be afraid to ask for help in this forum. Figuring out fits to use is not easy and not really explained well in game.
www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are on the increase. Don't become a statistic, become a permit holder!
Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose.
You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.11.13 22:52:33 -
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Clavain Conjoined wrote:North Black wrote:As a seasoned veteran of another popular MMO I am 2 days into a trial of this game and so far I am hugely impressed. A chat channel dedicated to helping new players? the best you could hope for is a response in the game I have come from and it would probably be sarcastic and/or insulting. A GM contacting me voluntarily to check how I was enjoying the game and if I had any problems ? You would have absolutely no chance of that in the game I have been playing. From afking for hours with nothing to do a few days ago playing my old MMO, I am now hugely excited about the prospects of developing my capsuleer down the mirriad of skill paths available to me. ( ps there's nothing in my cargo hold, I promise ^^ )
North As a fellow newly-awakened capsuleer, I can't tell you how much I agree. This game is so... infectious. I'm still in the starting NPC corp and have only done the basic missions and SoE Arc; this content is considered by many to be the most boring part of EVE. The sheer complexity and beautiful intricacy of the game balance alone is staggering. I think this game is a work of art, in many ways. I haven't had the time to really dive into the game, but every day I am reading the forums and some sort of informative guide/post/blog etc. The community, the fear, the risk, the reward, the options, the seemingly endless possibilities... there isn't a day that goes by where I don't read about some aspect/gameplay of EVE that I didn't know about. No other game has ever truly captured my attention and impressed me more than EVE.
And that's why EVE was among the world's greatest games on display at the MOMA
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Clavain Conjoined
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:02:39 -
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J'Poll wrote:And that's why EVE was among the world's greatest games on display at the MOMA
In 2001 I started college at UF and chose the Digital Arts and Sciences Engineering as my major, which was as in the College of Computer Engineering. It was a very new major, a merger of the computer engineering and fine arts colleges. My core classes were from both colleges. It taught me to see video games and all the associated disciplines that go into them (programming, level design, modeling, etc) as art forms. EVE doesn't just hit this on many of the structural levels, but rather ties it all together in this shifty, dark underworld of player-driven content where out of game interaction is pretty much required. It's a beautiful thing. |
Marzom Dread
Blood Raider Syndicate.
21
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:07:46 -
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North Black wrote:As a seasoned veteran of another popular MMO I am 2 days into a trial of this game and so far I am hugely impressed. A chat channel dedicated to helping new players? the best you could hope for is a response in the game I have come from and it would probably be sarcastic and/or insulting. A GM contacting me voluntarily to check how I was enjoying the game and if I had any problems ? You would have absolutely no chance of that in the game I have been playing. From afking for hours with nothing to do a few days ago playing my old MMO, I am now hugely excited about the prospects of developing my capsuleer down the mirriad of skill paths available to me. ( ps there's nothing in my cargo hold, I promise ^^ )
North
Welcome to Eve. The most addictive game ever created imo. Doesn't matter how many times you quit, you will always come back. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
6523
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:30:16 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Azda Ja wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:So, go talk to strangers. What about candy? its in the back of my ishkur FYP Ralph.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Azda Ja
BUMP POW
360
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:31:42 -
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J'Poll wrote:Azda Ja wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:So, go talk to strangers. What about candy? If you come over to HED I have some candy there at the sun
On my way.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
65
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Posted - 2014.11.14 22:03:41 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:May or may not have told the GM to shove it because I thought I might be getting scammed when they convoed me the first time. I made a similar mistake with my first character too. The GM responded by asking me to point out which other player I had encountered with blue text. Once I realized a staff member for player retention was responding to me sarcastically for my stupidity I knew I was playing the right game.
~ Bookmarks in overview
~ Fleet improvements
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
36174
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:11:58 -
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I wasn't a new player when I received a personal chat request in-game from CCP Dev. I had already been playing this game for a few years and when it happened, I thought I was in trouble for something.
Turns out the CCP Dev was doing a survey on various aspects of the game and my name had been forwarded to him. What started as a personal chat quickly moved to a Player Chat Channel I was in. Gotta say it was quite a surprise to the other channel members to see a CCP Dev in chat.
Anyway, with Downtime quickly approaching I told the CCP Dev if I wasn't back online afterwards, he could ask the other players in the channel his questions.
Needless to say when I logged back in right after DT, the CCP Dev was still in the chat channel, ready to continue his survey. Mainly it was basic questions about my game play experience, my likes and dislikes, possible game mechanic changes, bugs / problems, etc. The conversation actually lasted for a couple of hours.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Soloman Jackson
Locust Assets
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:31:54 -
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Liars! All of you! Everyone knows that CCP DEV's are a myth like Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. What kind of mind altering drugs were you all of when you had these so-called conversations? My money says your answer will be: Crack.
"I heard you know a thing or two, about a thing or two. Maybe we can come to an understanding..."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6908
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:08:06 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote: a myth like Santa Claus
wait WHAT!?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Azda Ja
BUMP POW
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:24:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Soloman Jackson wrote: a myth like Santa Claus
wait WHAT!?
BURN THE WITCH!
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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