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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:40:27 -
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Nemah Xadi wrote:But I'm not relying on it anymore, I'm leaving, so that means I can complain about it... right?
Doors that way ----->
wipe up your tears on the way out |
Nemah Xadi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:58:44 -
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Thank you, I know very well where the door is. And I still have 2 weeks left and more complaining to do.
I hope that doesn't bother you.
Save Nemah!
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
686
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:04:44 -
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Well, I'm glad that's all over. |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:30:28 -
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Nemah Xadi wrote:Thank you, I know very well where the door is. And I still have 2 weeks left and more complaining to do.
I hope that doesn't bother you.
not at all, please continue to sperg butthurt in forums. |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
308
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:35:15 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Well, I'm glad that's all over.
it's not over till the fat toad sings |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:10:13 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:I'm not confusing anything, look for yourself. It's a widely known phenomenon that HUGE battles in EVE get quite of a bit media coverage outside of our own community which attracts LOTS of new players. B-R5RB has a Wikipedia article for globs sake . I'm pretty sure a dev commented on the phenomenon while the jump changes were being discussed which were likely a factor for the creation of the "This is EVE" trailer which had a similar, albeit lesser, effect. So show me these massively popular ISBoxer videos that caused a spike in new character creations, because I don't buy that for a second.
To follow up on this, here's what I would guess caused the player creation spikes in 2014.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
The first and biggest around 2014-02-01 is undoubtedly B-R5RB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB
The next is on 2014-05-04 was likely Fanfest which was from the 1st to 3rd of May. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrKlYEsGvvw
Not sure about the one on 2014-05-25
The spike on 2014-07-2014 could be due to http://www.pcgamer.com/project-legion-first-look/
The last big one I can be bothered to find is 2014-11-23 and I'm going to guess it's thanks to "This is EVE". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0
So unless there was a massively popular ISBoxing video released at the end of May I don't think that any of the spikes of new character creations were hundreds of people creating tens of alts in order to multibox.
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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:30:32 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:I'm not confusing anything, look for yourself. It's a widely known phenomenon that HUGE battles in EVE get quite of a bit media coverage outside of our own community which attracts LOTS of new players. B-R5RB has a Wikipedia article for globs sake . I'm pretty sure a dev commented on the phenomenon while the jump changes were being discussed which were likely a factor for the creation of the "This is EVE" trailer which had a similar, albeit lesser, effect. So show me these massively popular ISBoxer videos that caused a spike in new character creations, because I don't buy that for a second. To follow up on this, here's what I would guess caused the player creation spikes in 2014. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility The first and biggest around 2014-02-01 is undoubtedly B-R5RB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB The next is on 2014-05-04 was likely Fanfest which was from the 1st to 3rd of May. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrKlYEsGvvw Not sure about the one on 2014-05-25. The spike on 2014-07-2014 could be due to an article PC Gamer. http://www.pcgamer.com/project-legion-first-look/ The last big one I can be bothered to find is 2014-11-23 and I'm going to guess it's thanks to "This is EVE". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0 So unless there was a massively popular ISBoxing video released at the end of May I don't think that any of the spikes of new character creations were hundreds of people creating tens of alts in order to multibox. I've also heard that people who joined due to big battles didn't stick around for long, so probably didn't consume or create many PLEX anyway.
I am surprised there wasn't anything big related to AT 12. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:52:20 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWC6I-FLEA
Honestly this would be #5 reason why long term plex pressure might (MIGHT) trend down.
Our average age of player is about 5 years older than when we started. Older people tend to be more secure in their careers, have more disposable income and have less time in their life to grind for isk. As a result I would expect an older population to seek long term real life methods for supplying account time instead of plex. |
N00B-SAIB0T
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:17:02 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:weird market this one, i stay away from it, far too many big boys in it, im only a tadpole, not a full fledge toad.
I don't play with the PLEX market like I use to. It's become to volatile and swings sharply in a very short period of time. I limit my exposure to it to a certain number at any given time but that's it. Crazy. You can rack up some major losses if you overexpose yourself. |
Chris Winter
Winters Are Coming
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:50:25 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Not sure about the one on 2014-05-25. That would be Humble Bundle day: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/eve-online-comes-to-the-humble-bundle/ |
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Nemah Xadi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.07 03:35:46 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Nemah Xadi wrote:Thank you, I know very well where the door is. And I still have 2 weeks left and more complaining to do.
I hope that doesn't bother you. not at all, please continue to sperg butthurt in forums.
You're completely sure about that, not even a little tiny bit?
The fact you refer to it as "sperg butthurt", and that you felt the need to post that, says otherwise, I would think...
Save Nemah!
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:01:47 -
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*yawn*
Price seems to have stabilizied at summer peak prices. ATM, a price drop to 700 or even 750 seems completely unrealistic to me, let alone a price crash to 'dirt cheap PLEX' so many ppl were hoping for (and some even predicting it).
Even with the fall price spike and the major correction afterwards (most likely driven mostly by panic selling due to multibox-policy changes) it seems we are back at where we have always been with PLEX-price trend: an overall upward trend. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
703
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Posted - 2015.01.16 13:17:57 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Because PLEX are massively underpriced.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.16 20:40:59 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Because PLEX are massively underpriced.
No I can assure you it isn't. In fact I would be very careful in this market as the average trade volumes are far far below the average for its price. We are seeing Jita volumes around 2400 units when they should be 3000. So either supply fell perfectly with the drop in demand or something is about to happen to the market. |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.01.16 20:44:40 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Because PLEX are massively underpriced. No I can assure you it isn't. In fact I would be very careful in this market as the average trade volumes are far far below the average for its price. We are seeing Jita volumes around 2400 units when they should be 3000. So either supply fell perfectly with the drop in demand or something is about to happen to the market.
I'm hoping your second possibility is what occurs. Should be fun to watch |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.25 13:22:41 -
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OMG That stupid Toady guy was right!
Quote:The team is looking into removing buying PLEX directly and replacing it with buying AUR which can then be redeemed for a PLEX from the New Eden Store, reducing the current ISK/PLEX/AUR to simply ISK/AUR
From Day One of the CSM... no more buying Plex on the market, they want us to use AUR instead. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2015.02.02 19:40:57 -
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I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period. You turn in AUR, you get game time. Also, allow players to trade AUR for ISK with each other. Then, instead of having PLEX price threads, we will have AUR price threads.
Other changes CCP would have to make for this to work:
AUR would have to go back to being a per pilot thing, not a per account thing. It would become another number in your wallet.
The market for exchanging ISK and AUR would have to be a special Eve wide market, not one limited to what station you are in. After all AUR is a number in your wallet, not an item. Such an eve wide market would be useful for other things, like a stock market (After all, stock is just a number in your wallet too.)
The disadvantage is: No more kills of frigates carrying 80 PLEX.
Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Maybe the multi-cast ban rules are beginning to really bite? Or is it just a little glitch in the ever upward market?
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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.02.02 19:57:33 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period. You turn in AUR, you get game time. Also, allow players to trade AUR for ISK with each other. Then, instead of having PLEX price threads, we will have AUR price threads.
Other changes CCP would have to make for this to work:
AUR would have to go back to being a per pilot thing, not a per account thing. It would become another number in your wallet.
The market for exchanging ISK and AUR would have to be a special Eve wide market, not one limited to what station you are in. After all AUR is a number in your wallet, not an item. Such an eve wide market would be useful for other things, like a stock market (After all, stock is just a number in your wallet too.)
The disadvantage is: No more kills of frigates carrying 80 PLEX.
Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Maybe the multi-cast ban rules are beginning to really bite? Or is it just a little glitch in the ever upward market?
I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3109
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Posted - 2015.02.02 22:26:12 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote: I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen
I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start?
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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.02.02 23:38:33 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote: I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen
I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start?
Not sure. 1st noticed a couple days ago by accident.
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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2015.02.02 23:54:07 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote: I saw a 10% off PLEX packs on the log in screen
I bypass the launcher, so sometimes I miss these. When did it start? Not sure. 1st noticed a couple days ago by accident. Just a few days, my guess on its date was a week or so early :(
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erg cz
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2015.02.03 12:08:58 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.
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Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?
Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.
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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.02.03 15:07:44 -
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erg cz wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.
....
Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.
How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale.... |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
50
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Posted - 2015.02.03 16:47:23 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:erg cz wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.
....
Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned. How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale....
CCP is pushing to remove them from inside the game all together and have them on the NES only. They wouldn't be "worthless" just non-transferable through in game means. Instead you would use isk to buy AUR and AUR to buy Plex.
My take is they realize the massive stockpiling and market manipulation actually fosters a bot and rmt environment and want more direct control of plex time.
Edit: Going back and reading some of the posts of that nut job Toad... he seems a bit prophetic and kinda called this a long time ago. Probably lucky, but hats off to him. |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.02.03 17:57:41 -
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I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
51
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Posted - 2015.02.03 18:07:48 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about.
Stop the stockpile and manipulation... allow for dynamic pricing controlled by CCP |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.02.03 18:36:06 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote:I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about. Stop the stockpile and manipulation... allow for dynamic pricing controlled by CCP
Couldn't you just stock pile AUR instead? Now that I think about it... Don't you currently get AUR by converting PLEX? |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
51
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Posted - 2015.02.03 18:54:58 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote:I just don't see what going to AUR to get PLEX is really going to change other than pushing a currency no one cares about. Stop the stockpile and manipulation... allow for dynamic pricing controlled by CCP Couldn't you just stock pile AUR instead? Now that I think about it... Don't you currently get AUR by converting PLEX?
But if Plex = same amount of AUR, and AUR = same amount of RL $, then there can be no manipulation. Only between isk and AUR, but that would be pointless because you aren't buying Plex from players anymore.
Edit: really it depends on what CCP implements, but fact remains we will likely see big changes that will negatively effect the Isk per Plex amount. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3122
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Posted - 2015.02.04 22:38:41 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:erg cz wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.
....
Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned. How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale.... If they did my idea (no PLEX, buy game time with AUR directly for the NEX store) then one thing they would do is convert every existing PLEX to 3500 AUR. AUR would then become the thing people buy as a hedge against inflation, and all the PLEX price threads would be replaced with AUR price threads.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
51
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Posted - 2015.02.04 23:40:11 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote:erg cz wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.
....
Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era? Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned. How would they become useless? Even if they do the change to AUR, I do not see how PLEX will suddenly be unusable. Whatever is on the market will be burned off or they would have to convert PLEX to AUR. If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be? Not to mention the currently ongoing PLEX sale.... If they did my idea (no PLEX, buy game time with AUR directly for the NEX store) then one thing they would do is convert every existing PLEX to 3500 AUR. AUR would then become the thing people buy as a hedge against inflation, and all the PLEX price threads would be replaced with AUR price threads.
Not really, because to most people AUR is worthless, it would only become worth something if it were tied to game time. |
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