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Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:39:35 -
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Harvey James wrote: any consequences for bombing the station i wonder?? Have station guns that only activate if something would otherwise "damage" the station.
-áTalk is cheap, but Void S and Quake L are cheaper.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
915
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:40:11 -
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Steven Hackett wrote:Hey Fozzie, How will adding more w-space systems make W-space seem more populated, especialy when POS's aren't allowed there?
You live in your w-space system and roam around in these uninhabitable systems. |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
375
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:43:04 -
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Research lead by The Sanctuary. SOE station skins. Yes, this is all unfolding nicely. |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
427
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:49:16 -
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Will these Thera stations finally have windows? because otherwise just boring station games.
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2631
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:00:56 -
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Maybe it should have 20 stations. An entire region's worth of content should fit into this system. |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
179
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:01:57 -
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Steven Hackett wrote:Hey Fozzie,
How will adding more w-space systems make W-space seem more populated, especialy when POS's aren't allowed there? How will adding more frigat mechanics into w-space make the game fun for all the players who doesn't care about frigats but still have to scan the **** down as part of their daily rutines? Have you learned anything from talking to the W-Space community? and if so, didn't you believe them or did you just decide to say "Screw them"?
Also, what are the chances of you leaving W-space alone? I know we called for attention, but I guess the soul of w-space left the company with CCP Soundwave?
Sorry dude, but you are not speaking for the whole w-space community..
I, for one, applaud the upcoming change and keep being wowed by CCP bold new undertakings!
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
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Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
179
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:03:34 -
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Mizhir wrote:This is looking good. I like the concept of the shattered systems for attracting preys and predators. Though I have one major issue with the small ship ones. If you give them the normal C6 WR bonus you will just exclude shield ships. Make it a special WH effect instead (which could also be integrated in the lore and why they only allow small ships).
Agreed, please keep shield fitted ships in mind...
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:10:00 -
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Red Teufel wrote:Thera
Why allow dictor and hic bubbles and only have 4 stations. Its just a station campers dream and a place for coalitions to go on vacation to. just seem very underwhelming to me and definitely not a Jita of WH space. please add more stations and bar hic and dic bubbles.
I kind of agree with that too... 4 stations may be too low for the traffic this system will likely see, and having them perma-camped will be counter productive to what it can become...
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
186
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:13:42 -
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Sven Viko VIkolander wrote:I am extremely excited about these new wormholes, but I have one major worry. With server population being so low lately (higher since Phoebe, but still low), I don't think adding new systems is automatically a good for the game. New systems means more people spread out--sure, people might cluster in Thera, but that means less people everywhere else, too. It is hard enough to find a fight when they server population is below 25 or 20k (a daily occurrence), and where a decent 50% of those players might be in station or afk. Thera will likely be a good system, but unless the game gets more players, it just means everywhere else is going to be that-much-more empty.
I have to think that the goal here is that such additional content (new wormholes, new unique named wormhole system) is designed, on some level, to be a catalyst for players to return to the game or to attract new players altogether. In addition, it may make a percentage of those "in station or afk" get out into space.
Even *if* these systems are underutilized, they end up as a resource benefit to existing wormhole corporations at a minimum so that in itself is a positive. |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
1003
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:13:47 -
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Saisin wrote:Red Teufel wrote:Thera
Why allow dictor and hic bubbles and only have 4 stations. Its just a station campers dream and a place for coalitions to go on vacation to. just seem very underwhelming to me and definitely not a Jita of WH space. please add more stations and bar hic and dic bubbles. I kind of agree with that too... 4 stations may be too low for the traffic this system will likely see, and having them perma-camped will be counter productive to what it can become... I am gonna go out on a limb and guess that players are responsible for clearing camps, not CCP. Given that this is a wormhole system with few local resources, destroying enemy forces puts a real hamper on their ability to reship due to the vagaries of how things get in and out of the system. This is a 0.0 system, not highsec -¡-- play appropriately.
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Nyctef
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
101
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:16:41 -
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Alexis Nightwish wrote:Everything about this looks amazing except for the Thera system itself. What a bubblebath that place will be
Between anchored bubbles being disabled, and the nerf to undock-bubble-dock, it shouldn't be quite so bad. |
Lord Echon
Frontier Adventurers Divum Liberi
12
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:24:53 -
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Damn, this sounds great. The new exploration content and this makes me very excited for Rhea. |
Marcus Tedric
Tedric Enterprises The Star League
13
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:31:03 -
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I do believe some people's prayers are answered.......
It's an Ishtar-nerf! |
Lyron-Baktos
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
464
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:31:46 -
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Ya, I'm also not interested in more frigate holes. They are unused since they were introduced and will remain unused. I'd also like to see some before and after metrics for the last WH updates. Have the number of kills gone up or down? How many kills were made in the frigate holes compared to other holes?
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Cypher Decypher
Flowery Twats
37
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:35:00 -
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Bit concerned that a small group of tanked camping HICs will effectively nerf dock/undock.
Otherwise, this all looks saucy. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
5629
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:36:40 -
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What are the odds of doubling the stations and size of Thera if it proves to be too small after some time? Or would you simply add another system like it?
The Paradox
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Winter Archipelago
Thera Industries
281
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:40:26 -
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New corp made, lots of new BPO's purchased, and the research alts will shortly be maxing them.
My body industry lines is will be ready!
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Unknown Subject
Ninja Bunnies With Fangs
16
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:42:22 -
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Wth! Actual content!? No new ships!? F I N A L Y ... More sand in the sandbox, not more buckets and spades. \o/ |
Ajunta Thor
Pwn 'N Play Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:45:40 -
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Overall I like the idea of Thera. Just one question/comment. You finally decided to put ice in wormhole space which is great something wormholers have been asking for for a while but the only wormholes you can get the ice in you can't live in or control that well. So why? What's the point/bonus to go mine ice in a wormhole? It's not your whole and probably has multiple entrances basically a death trap for indy guys. Why would they mine ice here over wherever they are mining it right now? IThe just seems pointless. |
Fred Kyong
EWH NanoTex
6
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:56:30 -
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I posted it somewhere else already. A nice idea for a new WH.
BUT:
The stations will be camped by hostiles forever and an actual WH live with maybe a tower, rating and mining will not be possible. So those WHs are useless, rather move to NPC 0.0 or lowsec. Same stuff. |
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SpaceSaft
Capts Deranged Cavaliers Gentlemen's.Club
95
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:56:52 -
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Quote:They will contain minable ice fields.
They will have no moons and every planet will be shattered.
Cheeky. I'm sure this is exactly what the wormhole community meant when they said "put ice in wh-space". At least they can't say you aren't listening.
I'll reserve all judgement of Thera until a month after it hits Tranquility.
Hope restored.
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
186
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:57:46 -
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Ajunta Thor wrote:Overall I like the idea of Thera. Just one question/comment. You finally decided to put ice in wormhole space which is great something wormholers have been asking for for a while but the only wormholes you can get the ice in you can't live in or control that well. So why? What's the point/bonus to go mine ice in a wormhole? It's not your whole and probably has multiple entrances basically a death trap for indy guys. Why would they mine ice here over wherever they are mining it right now? IThe just seems pointless.
I'm more concerned about the racial nature of ice and how it is far more likely that the ice is useless to you because it is of the wrong type rather than being too dangerous to get. Danger is how it is in wormhole space and these systems will be no different than others in that respect. |
Klarion Sythis
Lazerhawks
315
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:59:03 -
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Ajunta Thor wrote:Overall I like the idea of Thera. Just one question/comment. You finally decided to put ice in wormhole space which is great something wormholers have been asking for for a while but the only wormholes you can get the ice in you can't live in or control that well. So why? What's the point/bonus to go mine ice in a wormhole? It's not your whole and probably has multiple entrances basically a death trap for indy guys. Why would they mine ice here over wherever they are mining it right now? IThe just seems pointless. It's not a death trap. Those who want to mine their ice can and will and those who choose to import will keep doing it.
This is really just to allow self sufficiency if you want it as it doesn't take a lot of ice mining to get what you need and can be ninja'd pretty quickly when the opportunity presents itself. |
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
146
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:59:36 -
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Ajunta Thor wrote:Overall I like the idea of Thera. Just one question/comment. You finally decided to put ice in wormhole space which is great something wormholers have been asking for for a while but the only wormholes you can get the ice in you can't live in or control that well. So why? What's the point/bonus to go mine ice in a wormhole? It's not your whole and probably has multiple entrances basically a death trap for indy guys. Why would they mine ice here over wherever they are mining it right now? IThe just seems pointless.
You sir seem to be lacking in knowledge of logistics, organization and most importantly, imagination.
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adriaans
Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak
15
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:04:49 -
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This sounds awesome. I am very hopeful it will become an area where I can get good fights in smaller ships.
----True oldschool solo pvp'er----
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Fred Kyong
EWH NanoTex
6
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:05:27 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:Ajunta Thor wrote:Overall I like the idea of Thera. Just one question/comment. You finally decided to put ice in wormhole space which is great something wormholers have been asking for for a while but the only wormholes you can get the ice in you can't live in or control that well. So why? What's the point/bonus to go mine ice in a wormhole? It's not your whole and probably has multiple entrances basically a death trap for indy guys. Why would they mine ice here over wherever they are mining it right now? IThe just seems pointless. It's not a death trap. Those who want to mine their ice can and will and those who choose to import will keep doing it. This is really just to allow self sufficiency if you want it as it doesn't take a lot of ice mining to get what you need and can be ninja'd pretty quickly when the opportunity presents itself.
Sure. With 50 Russians camping in WH stations. Useless |
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:05:41 -
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Looks interesting, though I expect Thera to be filled with bubbles and bombers at least for the first few weeks after it goes live on Tranquilty. Maybe I should brush up those scanning skills to see it live.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1227
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:08:39 -
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Um.. not sure if this was asked... but uh... in 25 wormhole there will be ice fields... yet the wormholes can only allow frigs... a frig is around 25km3 and the smallest barge, that can use ice miners is 100km3... or the size of a cruiser/bs... so.. how the hades are you going to be able to mine ice in these 25 systems? unless I am missing something... which if I am correct me, because I don't know of a none strip ice miner....
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Fred Kyong
EWH NanoTex
6
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:09:26 -
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Keras Authion wrote:Looks interesting, though I expect Thera to be filled with bubbles and bombers at least for the first few weeks after it goes live on Tranquilty. Maybe I should brush up those scanning skills to see it live.
No bubbles allowed in such WHs |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
852
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:09:53 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:What are the odds of doubling the stations and size of Thera if it proves to be too small after some time? Or would you simply add another system like it?
We're all kinda thinking the same thing. A group of 4 people can lockup a station pretty easily, then dock about as easily.
I see it happening. I'm not sure for how long.
I'm a little less worried about people at sites. Yes they will be probed down to death the first week or two. After the novelty wears off though..
You can put too many stations into a system and defeat the whole purpose of it. A lot of us see 4 as too low. I believe 9 is too high. You could put more stations in, but the one that people designate as "the trade hub", will be the one under 24 hour hobo watch.
I'm going to stop theorycrafting though and go see it first.
Yaay!!!!
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