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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:39:36 -
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The Rattlesnake was a unique ship and very versatile ship. Nobody trained for it for its PVP viability or specialized DPS.
This ship was completely changed around for no good reason whatsoever.
It is undoubtedly the best BS in the game for passive shield tanking in close combat. In its former iteration it had torpedo viability due to its missile velocity bonus and bonuses to all drones, giving it high DPS vs any target type without the need for a target painter, enabling the RS pilot to dedicate all of his mid slots to creating a strong passive tank. The large drone bay allowed a RS pilot to carry the optimal medium/light drone type for the situation along with a set of sentry drones for distant targets, and allowed for creative possibilities with large utility drones. Heavy drones were never part of this play style and sentry use was very minimal.
This was one of the best ships in the game when facing e-war and neut/nos. CCP Rise "rebalancing" has amounted to no more than tinkering.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7179
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:45:18 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Will CCP ever acknowledge that CCR Rise destroyed a playstyle for RS ?
No.
/thread
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Paranoid Loyd
2592
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:46:49 -
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Man you have real problems. Seek help.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:48:59 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Man you have real problems.
I have problems?
Don't you live here?
Try acknowledging someones valid complaint even if it doesn't benefit you in some way for once. |
Paranoid Loyd
2592
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:55:26 -
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You have voiced your complaints to the point it is a huge joke. Get over it already.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10614
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:57:08 -
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Congrats on getting unbanned again, Fabulous Rod.
Reported for opening a duplicate topic, attacking a member of CCP, and for trolling.
Your "playstyle" never mattered.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:57:17 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Man you have real problems. I have problems? Don't you live here? Try acknowledging someones valid complaint even if it doesn't benefit you in some way for once. Your "valid" complaint consists of "I don't want to adapt to any changes in the game".
Grow up, HTFU and shut up.
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6800
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:57:20 -
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Whatever.
I still like it and I still fly one.
I adapted. Why can't you?
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1274
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:00:15 -
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Dude, CCR broke up decades ago. Get over it already.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
218
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:03:04 -
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Don't go bringing Creedence into this discussion. They didn't do anything to make you fail.
I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it.
- Bill Frug
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
71
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:05:09 -
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If you're going to start a personal crusade against a video game feature, I feel that it's best not done while impersonating another well known player.
It makes you look like you have nothing to offer on your own.
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:06:46 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Whatever. I still like it and I still fly one. I adapted. Why can't you? Mr Epeen
Its not even the same ship for me. Its much weaker in the same playstyle and it didn't need to be.
I am adapting. I'm hardly playing this game anymore out of dissatisfaction with this change and I cancelled my paid sub.
Maybe you like to adept to being treated so callously and don't mind having your favorite playstyles destroyed but some people do, believe it or not.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6794
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:06:53 -
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Ha!
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:07:45 -
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Jvpiter wrote:
If you're going to start a personal crusade against a video game feature, I feel that it's best not done while impersonating another well known player.
It makes you look like you have nothing to offer on your own.
It's Fabulous Rod, he's never had anything of value to offer.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:08:36 -
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Well, thanks for making me feel better about myself at least. I'm very thankful not to be dedicating my life to this game and its forums.
I can see again that I have been correct in all my assumptions. Have fun with your refreshing. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
71
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:09:27 -
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Your play style is at the whim of the company that owns the game and all its intellectual property rights.
The destruction of your play style may well be an Icelandic pastime or hobby.
I'm surprised you haven't figured that out yet.
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Wendrika Hydreiga
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:11:26 -
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But... I thought the Rattlesnake was awesome now. Filling in the lack of drone boats for the Caldari and stuff.
Well, I'm still going to save my ISKies to get one. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5142
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:15:59 -
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The old Rattlesnake was so awesome it even beat every other faction battleship by how cheap it was.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
343
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:21:56 -
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I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2105
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:22:04 -
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What kind of drek is this?
And more importantly, where's my Guristas Marshal jacket already?
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
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Paranoid Loyd
2593
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:25:10 -
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Destoya wrote:I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff That is why this is so funny.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5880
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:27:09 -
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Are you still shitting up the forums with your whining about how completely incompetent you are at EVE? You need to get over the Rattlesnake bruh, move on with your life, don't be so obsessed. It's going to eat you up inside.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:28:45 -
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Destoya wrote:I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff
DPS-centric thinking. The buff was only in the form of specialized DPS.
The nerfs were far greater than the buffs. The strengths and weaknesses of the ship were ignored and not played into with the changes. It was only reluctantly allowed to keep its sentry drones by CCP as was admitted in the pirate faction battleship thread.
To the layman who only values DPS, sure, it got a buff. For pilots who trained for the snake for what it was best at, it was a nerf. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5880
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:33:29 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Destoya wrote:I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff DPS-centric thinking. The buff was only in the form of specialized DPS. The nerfs were far greater than the buffs. The strengths and weaknesses of the ship were ignored and not played into with the changes. It was only reluctantly allowed to keep its sentry drones by CCP as admitted in the pirate faction battleship thread.
You know the RS isn't the only ship in that game don't you? Broaden your horizons, bub. Try a Navy Geddon or something.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Foxicity
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:38:31 -
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I agree with OP. It's really too bad the Rattlesnake is the only ship in EVE. |
First Ometic'lan
Krupp Heavy Industries
3
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:43:32 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Destoya wrote:I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff DPS-centric thinking. The buff was only in the form of specialized DPS. The nerfs were far greater than the buffs. The strengths and weaknesses of the ship were ignored and not played into with the changes. It was only reluctantly allowed to keep its sentry drones by CCP as admitted in the pirate faction battleship thread. You know the RS isn't the only ship in that game don't you? Broaden your horizons, bub. Try a Navy Geddon or something.
Well, of course one can always change the ships if CCP destroys a specific playstyle via "delicate balancing", if only there weren'T the skills neede to do so... Flying a RS today does not mean he could fly a Navy geddon tomorrow... Instead of accepting that there never was a problem with the RS in the first place, people only started to understand how awesome and versatile this ship was. CCP has an agenda and this agende has something to do with limiting people's income. PLEX prices up to staggering highs, loot drops of highsec lv4 missions getting nerfed and nerfed, exploration values of sites being bashed down, as well as values of nulsec anomaly's loot... Everything they undertake is to make pve income more tedious and time consuming. I do not know whether it is CCP's belief that players will start paying subs if the grind becomes too time consuming. I don't think so... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2106
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:47:38 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Destoya wrote:I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff DPS-centric thinking. The buff was only in the form of specialized DPS. The nerfs were far greater than the buffs. The strengths and weaknesses of the ship were ignored and not played into with the changes. It was only reluctantly allowed to keep its sentry drones by CCP as admitted in the pirate faction battleship thread. You know the RS isn't the only ship in that game don't you? Broaden your horizons, bub. Try a Navy Geddon or something.
To be fair, I'd be pretty buttmad if Rise nerfed the Ferox. Afterall, he was the one that made me even like that ship, to begin with (back when he was Kil2)... that would be a mindjob, and I doubt I'd get over it easily.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:49:05 -
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First Ometic'lan wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Destoya wrote:I do hope you realize the RS got a pretty massive buff DPS-centric thinking. The buff was only in the form of specialized DPS. The nerfs were far greater than the buffs. The strengths and weaknesses of the ship were ignored and not played into with the changes. It was only reluctantly allowed to keep its sentry drones by CCP as admitted in the pirate faction battleship thread. You know the RS isn't the only ship in that game don't you? Broaden your horizons, bub. Try a Navy Geddon or something. Well, of course one can always change the ships if CCP destroys a specific playstyle via "delicate balancing", if only there weren'T the skills neede to do so... Flying a RS today does not mean he could fly a Navy geddon tomorrow... Instead of accepting that there never was a problem with the RS in the first place, people only started to understand how awesome and versatile this ship was. CCP has an agenda and this agende has something to do with limiting people's income. PLEX prices up to staggering highs, loot drops of highsec lv4 missions getting nerfed and nerfed, exploration values of sites being bashed down, as well as values of nulsec anomaly's loot... Everything they undertake is to make pve income more tedious and time consuming. I do not know whether it is CCP's belief that players will start paying subs if the grind becomes too time consuming. I don't think so...
Thanks for your post. I guess it does make sense if their goal was trying to make the RS more tedious.
I still feel this was a callous and unnecessary change, however. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6799
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:17:58 -
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Ha ha ha!
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
748
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:19:21 -
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Foxicity wrote:I agree with OP. It's really too bad the Rattlesnake is the only ship in EVE.
Damn, I don't have Caldari Battleship trained. I guess I'll have to continue flying my rookie ship. |
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