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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1367
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Posted - 2015.02.08 06:34:28 -
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Korozaa Akuma wrote:Sentenced 1989 wrote:Korozaa Akuma wrote:One thing that's bugged me is the issues with Minmatar Arc mission "Heresiology". There seems to be no way to avoid the Ammatar standing hit. It is true, only the Detective gives a large hit (-3% I believe), but killing any ship will give you the -0.075% per tick hit. While this is small, since there is no way to repair Ammatar without screwing with everything else, over the long term it adds up.
I've tried having one ship tank the dps at about ~100km away while using a cov ops to hack / warp on grid (cause the rats switch to your hacker)/ repeat but this seems to bug the mission. The cans stop respawning after 6 or so.
Has anyone come up with something that works? Petition, its bug... Great advice..... I do petition it, they reset the mission and I'm back to square one.
I got to 11 cans before they stopped spawning by killing the battleships and cruisers and tanking the frigates and detectives but I could not get the twefth to spawn. |
Korozaa Akuma
Yomi-no-kuni
0
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Posted - 2015.02.08 06:57:34 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:
I got to 11 cans before they stopped spawning by killing the battleships and cruisers and tanking the frigates and detectives but I could not get the twefth to spawn.
Yeah this mission definitely has some randomness ever since they got rid of loot spew.
For me, I just build a Drake that could passive tank 950 EM/TH dps (by my math there was 856 on grid) and had relic analyzer. It was painful slowboating between all the cans, but the mission item actually dropped out of cargo spawn following my 7th or so hack. I had a Mobile Depot and Medium MJD in the hold just in case I needed to jump out of any scrams. So FINALLY I was able to do this mission w/o an Ammatar hit. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1368
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Posted - 2015.02.08 09:57:37 -
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Korozaa Akuma wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:
I got to 11 cans before they stopped spawning by killing the battleships and cruisers and tanking the frigates and detectives but I could not get the twefth to spawn.
Yeah this mission definitely has some randomness ever since they got rid of loot spew. For me, I just build a Drake that could passive tank 950 EM/TH dps (by my math there was 856 on grid) and had relic analyzer. It was painful slowboating between all the cans, but the mission item actually dropped out of cargo spawn following my 7th or so hack. I had a Mobile Depot and Medium MJD in the hold just in case I needed to jump out of any scrams. So FINALLY I was able to do this mission w/o an Ammatar hit.
The big change I noticed was any previously hacked cans now appear unlocked after hacking but randomly relock on a failed hack or if you take too long.
However I spent 3 or 4 hours on this (so maybe 100 succesful hacks) and could not get past 11 hacked cans. Two cargo drops spawned but they were the two "rubbish" document you always got.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
47019
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Posted - 2015.02.08 10:21:47 -
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Whenever I run the Epic Arcs, I always check and update Eve Survival Mission Reports as needed. When I ran that mission back in Oct 2014, there was only 3 containers on warp in. After a successful hack another container would spawn which also needed to be hacked.
Total amount of containers needing to be hacked was 6.
Now I see people posting different amounts of containers spawning that need to be hacked. If that's the case then the mission is definitely bugged.
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Sentenced 1989
162
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Posted - 2015.02.08 11:59:59 -
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Korozaa Akuma wrote:Sentenced 1989 wrote:Korozaa Akuma wrote:One thing that's bugged me is the issues with Minmatar Arc mission "Heresiology". There seems to be no way to avoid the Ammatar standing hit. It is true, only the Detective gives a large hit (-3% I believe), but killing any ship will give you the -0.075% per tick hit. While this is small, since there is no way to repair Ammatar without screwing with everything else, over the long term it adds up.
I've tried having one ship tank the dps at about ~100km away while using a cov ops to hack / warp on grid (cause the rats switch to your hacker)/ repeat but this seems to bug the mission. The cans stop respawning after 6 or so.
Has anyone come up with something that works? Petition, its bug... Great advice..... I do petition it, they reset the mission and I'm back to square one.
Ask for mission objective and mission complete so you can turn in. I've done this mission on 3 toons and neither was able to complete. Used to be 4 cans, after hacking one can you would open 1 more, up to 3 more per originals, ending up with 16 cans. 16th can would drop objective, so far I've managed to open 6 of them 2 times and once 5 of them
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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
277
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Posted - 2015.02.08 15:20:50 -
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Shows we all have something to learn : I never even noticed the standings loss!
I can't decide if I'm happy to know about it or annoyed that it's another issue to deal with
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
47046
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Posted - 2015.02.08 22:38:10 -
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Sentenced 1989 wrote:Ask for mission objective and mission complete so you can turn in. I've done this mission on 3 toons and neither was able to complete. Used to be 4 cans, after hacking one can you would open 1 more, up to 3 more per originals, ending up with 16 cans. 16th can would drop objective, so far I've managed to open 6 of them 2 times and once 5 of them
Yeah, for a long time there was 4 cans present upon warping to the site which needed to be hacked. Total amount of cans needing to be hacked was 12.
Quote:The sequence :
1st Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
2nd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
3rd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
4th Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Obsidian Orb
When I did the arc in Oct of 2014, there were only 3 cans present upon warping to the site which needed to be hacked. The total amount of cans needing to be hacked was 6.
Quote:The sequence :
1st Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
2nd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
3rd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Obsidian Orb
My question is how many cans are present now upon warping to the site ?
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1371
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Posted - 2015.02.08 23:17:12 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Sentenced 1989 wrote:Ask for mission objective and mission complete so you can turn in. I've done this mission on 3 toons and neither was able to complete. Used to be 4 cans, after hacking one can you would open 1 more, up to 3 more per originals, ending up with 16 cans. 16th can would drop objective, so far I've managed to open 6 of them 2 times and once 5 of them Yeah, for a long time there was 4 cans present upon warping to the site which needed to be hacked. Total amount of cans needing to be hacked was 12. Quote:The sequence :
1st Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
2nd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
3rd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
4th Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Obsidian Orb When I did the arc in Oct of 2014, there were only 3 cans present upon warping to the site which needed to be hacked. The total amount of cans needing to be hacked was 6. Quote:The sequence :
1st Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
2nd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Document
3rd Original can / hack = spawn can / hack = spawn can / loot = Obsidian Orb My question is how many cans are present now upon warping to the site ? DMC
As I mentioned in the other thread - three .
- Hacking two of those changed their status to "unlocked" but created no new spawns. - Hacking the third one spawned a fourth. - In my case I ended up with 11 cans in 3 groups of 4-4-3 - I also got two documents presumably one from each of the two groups of 4 (though I did not take note at the time) - Presumably getting a 4th can to spawn in the three group and hacking it will give the orb - i was not able to get the twelfth can to spawn though there may be some "trick" to this I am unable to work out
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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
279
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Posted - 2015.04.12 09:59:26 -
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OP Updated significantly with suggested links and useful resources for Epic Arc Missioners. Thanks to everyone for their input
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2015.04.13 14:21:27 -
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Nightingale Actault wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:My recent experience says the warp times involved and the sheer travel involved have really hurt the isk/hr to way below normal missioning. I recently completed all 4 Epic Arcs and chose the paths that would increase faction standing over those that gave the best ISK rewards. After completion I had roughly 700-800 million ISK. As I blitzed whenever possible and did not salvage variations could come from bounties etc. Each Faction Arc took approximately 6-8 hours at a casual pace. Even with choosing the ISK rewards instead of straight standings I believe the income would have only been about 300 million higher, which is still quite below the expected missioning income/hour. I imagine the returns are much better if you just dont do the minmatar arc with its awful awful rewards. |
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Luscius Uta
137
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Posted - 2015.04.17 10:39:24 -
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I'm about to replay The Minmatar Epic arc, but I wonder where to find the Olfei Medallion these days (other than the market). It used to be found in hackable cans inside an anomaly called "A Demonstration", but now this anomaly is devoid of rats and the cans are empty. |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
279
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:11:17 -
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Luscius Uta wrote:I'm about to replay The Minmatar Epic arc, but I wonder where to find the Olfei Medallion these days (other than the market). It used to be found in hackable cans inside an anomaly called "A Demonstration", but now this anomaly is devoid of rats and the cans are empty.
Personally I think those anomalies are just regularly farmed for the medallion to sell to people.
I've been able to find them from the anomalies that freshly spawn, but then you have to be more patient. I often just buy the medallions.
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Civ Kado
Dutch East Querious Company Phoebe Freeport Republic
70
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:46:55 -
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How often can you repeat the epic arcs? |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
280
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:13:00 -
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Civ Kado wrote:How often can you repeat the epic arcs?
Once every 90 days, from the day you complete it, or abandon it.
An uncompleted arc will never time out. It must be manually abandoned by quitting the mission.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1428
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Posted - 2015.04.24 04:11:18 -
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Luscius Uta wrote:I'm about to replay The Minmatar Epic arc, but I wonder where to find the Olfei Medallion these days (other than the market). It used to be found in hackable cans inside an anomaly called "A Demonstration", but now this anomaly is devoid of rats and the cans are empty.
Be warned, Heresiology is still bugged and usually keeps refilling the cans you just hacked.
If you get stuck, petition and tell them you were advised to request both the mission item to hand in as well the mission requirements marked as fulfilled tather than resetting. (Them resetting the mission just means you lose another batch of Ammatar standing for no benefit) |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50285
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Posted - 2015.04.25 23:47:51 -
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According to the Mosaic Patch Notes / Fixes / Missions & NPC's :
Quote:A completion issue with the Minmatar epic arc mission 'Heresiology' has been fixed.
Hopefully everything is now back to normal.
DMC
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Valterra Craven
535
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Posted - 2015.04.28 20:03:37 -
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I wonder when they will fix the standings gains.
I've had to submit reimbursement reports. Every. Time. For the caldari epic on every character that I have that runs it. |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
282
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Posted - 2015.04.28 20:09:56 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:I wonder when they will fix the standings gains.
I've had to submit reimbursement reports. Every. Time. For the caldari epic on every character that I have that runs it.
My checklist for making epic arc rewards work :
1. Don't be in a fleet. 2. Be docked if possible.
These seem to have helped me, significantly #1.
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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
171
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Posted - 2015.05.10 23:08:47 -
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Just finished the Caldari Arc using the linked guide. All hacking now uses the new hack method. Also, would it be possible to highlight the need for hacking for those missions that require it.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
886
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Posted - 2015.06.27 11:37:06 -
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I find it interesting how many guides and summaries ignore Sansha path in Amarr arc. Although there's little to say on missions themselves there, so that may be the reason. |
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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
292
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Posted - 2015.06.27 17:34:07 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:I find it interesting how many guides and summaries ignore Sansha path in Amarr arc. Although there's little to say on missions themselves there, so that may be the reason.
Most of us missioners are carebears who avoid low and null :D
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50666
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Posted - 2015.06.27 19:59:48 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:I find it interesting how many guides and summaries ignore Sansha path in Amarr arc. Although there's little to say on missions themselves there, so that may be the reason. Eve Survival : Mission Reports has documented the Sansha path in the Amarr Epic Arc.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
888
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Posted - 2015.06.27 23:10:29 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Eve Survival : Mission Reports has documented the Sansha path in the Amarr Epic Arc. EDIT : The Sansha path of the Amarr Epic Arc as well as the other Epic Arcs were all documented first in the Lorebook by Jowen Datloran. DMC I know, thanks. I think I've seen links somewhere earlier, probably it was Uni-wiki. It's just that I found relative lack of mention consistent with market indications
That said, since documentation also indicates that you don't need anything expensive to run those, you'd think people will find it worth it to try it for what, about 400mil, I think. |
Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards
87
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:55:24 -
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au5Fc0GDX-jGdGhoVVJGN1hITk92aHB3MmNIUVFBcnc#gid=0
Still working on some and I have not done the other paths. |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
154
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Posted - 2015.06.28 09:50:30 -
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Would you be able to do the epic arcs solo in a gila?
Will gank for food
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Ramshack Z
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:49:01 -
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Tarojan wrote:Would you be able to do the epic arcs solo in a gila?
Right to Rule would be interesting with that nasty EM resistance hole. |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
294
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Posted - 2015.06.28 18:17:48 -
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Tarojan wrote:Would you be able to do the epic arcs solo in a gila?
I've done the Amarr Arc, Right to Rule, in an Ishtar with a single EM ward field, however I was sniping for the most part with Curators, with the Gila this is not possible or at least reliable due to drone flight times and web frigates. It's probably possible but not easy.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
482
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Posted - 2015.07.07 04:10:26 -
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Anyone did Amarr Arch (Old Guard version of Chapter 3) getting missions in low sec? "Making an Arrest" is sending me 4 jumps deep into low. Bug or intended?
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
70
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Posted - 2015.07.07 05:31:34 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Anyone did Amarr Arch (Old Guard version of Chapter 3) getting missions in low sec? "Making an Arrest" is sending me 4 jumps deep into low. Bug or intended?
Never did it in lowsec. But you can do this mission in ceptor or covert ops. No combat in this mission. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
482
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Posted - 2015.07.07 05:40:40 -
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I was under the impression that it wouldn't be in low sec. It's not a question of whether I can do the mission, it's a matter of now I have to go pick up a inty, setup a fit, buy a new jump clone cause this one has 5% hardwiring and +5 attribute imps.
I was asking if that was a glitch or if I need to start bringing a low sec ship from now on even if I intend to run the Amarr side, at which point I might as well run the Sansha side instead. I thought that was the whole point of the Amarr side.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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