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Miranda Shoota
Gnampf Inc.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:46:03 -
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I am trying this thing for the first time since it was released because I now have a bunch of **** to sell that I don't need to put up orders for....
Select all.. sell.. sell... that's what's meant to work now right?
Nope, not enough order slots.. How to get around this? You guessed it! Clickfest time!
Thanks, working as intended and all I hope. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5514
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:51:41 -
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Miranda Shoota wrote:I am trying this thing for the first time since it was released because I now have a bunch of **** to sell that I don't need to put up orders for....
Select all.. sell.. sell... that's what's meant to work now right?
Nope, not enough order slots.. How to get around this? You guessed it! Clickfest time!
Thanks, working as intended and all I hope.
Train the relevant skill - get bonus slots.
Working as intended.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Miranda Shoota
Gnampf Inc.
9
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:54:27 -
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Yeah nevermind. I think I went about this the wrong way. I expected a functionality improvement, not a slightly fancier look. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5922
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:00:13 -
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It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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brutalbutneutral
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom Ace of Spades.
18
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:01:48 -
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Maybe instead of showing info when clicking the item, show the marketorders for that item. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:04:25 -
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I think it would be helpful to have some commas for the ISK amounts which are already quite small in size and hard to read.
Call me Joe.
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Miranda Shoota
Gnampf Inc.
9
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:05:34 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.
Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5923
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:07:43 -
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Miranda Shoota wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE. Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P
No.
And that's the whole point.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ama Scelesta
108
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:12:56 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Miranda Shoota wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE. Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P No. And that's the whole point. What point? That people who aren't trade focused can't actually take full advantage of the feature? It really shouldn't matter what your trade skills are, if you're only going to do immediate sales. Skills should only matter, if you place orders with duration. |
Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
6
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:13:27 -
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what makes this tool awkward for me, hence not using it, is that from the mass listing screen, you can't (or i can't figure out how yet) look up market status/prices for each item. (to know what price you want to sell at - and yeah, you'd be stupid to use the red/green avg if you're in business).
So, I find myself having to use the item hanger as per normal to right click and see price ... which makes me think, might as well do the whole thing tyhe old fashioned way as when selling more than a few items its easy to loose where you are in the list.
So, yeah ... cool upgrade, if you're not watching your bottom line and just want to sell your junk. Not really that handy for the commercial producer (unless they know their market prices movement by heart). |
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Square PI
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:46:30 -
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Leannor wrote:what makes this tool awkward for me, hence not using it, is that from the mass listing screen, you can't (or i can't figure out how yet) look up market status/prices for each item. (to know what price you want to sell at - and yeah, you'd be stupid to use the red/green avg if you're in business).
So, I find myself having to use the item hanger as per normal to right click and see price ... which makes me think, might as well do the whole thing tyhe old fashioned way as when selling more than a few items its easy to loose where you are in the list.
So, yeah ... cool upgrade, if you're not watching your bottom line and just want to sell your junk. Not really that handy for the commercial producer (unless they know their market prices movement by heart).
You do know that you can click in the nice red/green icon and get to the item in the market place this way, dont you?
It is really easy and fast to check the prices for all items in the sell window. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5517
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:15:50 -
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Miranda Shoota wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE. Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P
My trading alt feels the same way... he wants to target and shoot all the things with one click but has trading skills instead.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Redux
91
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:22:15 -
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set it to sell your items immediately, rather than setting up sale orders, BOOM everything that can be sold immediately is, everything that can't goes back to your inventory (at least that's how it worked for the 400 items I sold the other day. and I can only have ~ 100 orders) |
Jur Tissant
The TERRA Guardians of Serenity
323
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:09:08 -
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No, if you want to sell 50 items at once you need 50 orders at once.
However, it is annoying to only sell half of a given item, it'd be nice to have a checkbox which defaults the sell price to whatever it needs to be to sell ALL of the stack. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1716
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Posted - 2014.11.19 00:03:53 -
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Does the skill take into account immediate sell order or only ones that take time when using multi sell? |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
240
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Posted - 2014.11.19 01:01:50 -
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You should be able to sell 100 stacks immediately, regardless of skills.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5935
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Posted - 2014.11.19 02:32:43 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:You should be able to sell 100 stacks immediately, regardless of skills.
You can, I do it all the time, no trade skills on Rem at all except contracting.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
4355
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Posted - 2014.11.19 14:35:25 -
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He Mad
I'm a Snaper - imgur.com/8EHPPWU
mad? ( -í° -£-û -í°)
Hengle Teron > v(t) = dp / dt
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
250
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Posted - 2014.11.19 15:51:51 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:You should be able to sell 100 stacks immediately, regardless of skills. You can, I do it all the time, no trade skills on Rem at all except contracting. So does OP just want to use multisell to place sell orders at his own prices and bypass the sell order limit? If so then yeah, he's dumb for thinking that that was going to happen.
At first thought he was complaining about what I was originally complaining about when Phoebe was first released which was that you couldn't use it to place more immediate sell orders than your skills allow for sell orders. It makes sense that you should be allowed to, because you're not really placing sell orders with "immediate" orders, you're just completing buy orders. CCP agreed and implemented the change that allowed you to sell 100 stacks immediately regardless of skills. So I was just confused because I thought he was complaining about something that's already been fixed (and which worked for me when I tried it).
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Angeal MacNova
The Scope Gallente Federation
248
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Posted - 2014.11.19 16:02:56 -
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Agreed. There is a definitive difference between creating a sell order and completing someone's buy order. Needing free sell order slots equal to the number of items you want to complete buy orders with is absurd. This new feature compounds this issue. Before you could only sell one item at a time so you only ever needed one open sell order slot. Now you need one for every single item type.
I think the problem was that if there were no buy orders, it would automatically create a sell order at regional average. I'd rather have this feature gone and be able to complete buy orders without the need for sell order slots. If my intent was to just settle for people's buy orders for the sake of getting isk now instead of later, then I'd sooner just reprocess items for which there are no active buy orders and sell the minerals to get the isk now.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
754
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Posted - 2014.11.19 16:05:40 -
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Miranda Shoota wrote:Yeah nevermind. I think I went about this the wrong way. I expected a functionality improvement, not a slightly fancier look.
When I first sold something with the new Sell UI I thought it was having me create is Market Order to sell. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
754
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Posted - 2014.11.19 16:09:19 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Agreed. There is a definitive difference between creating a sell order and completing someone's buy order. Needing free sell order slots equal to the number of items you want to complete buy orders with is absurd. This new feature compounds this issue. Before you could only sell one item at a time so you only ever needed one open sell order slot. Now you need one for every single item type.
I think the problem was that if there were no buy orders, it would automatically create a sell order at regional average. I'd rather have this feature gone and be able to complete buy orders without the need for sell order slots. If my intent was to just settle for people's buy orders for the sake of getting isk now instead of later, then I'd sooner just reprocess items for which there are no active buy orders and sell the minerals to get the isk now.
I don't know now with the changes in refining/reprocessing but people use to farm the market for cheap modules that was worth more for their minerals than the module itself. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2014.11.19 16:20:03 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Agreed. There is a definitive difference between creating a sell order and completing someone's buy order. Needing free sell order slots equal to the number of items you want to complete buy orders with is absurd. This new feature compounds this issue. Before you could only sell one item at a time so you only ever needed one open sell order slot. Now you need one for every single item type.
I think the problem was that if there were no buy orders, it would automatically create a sell order at regional average. I'd rather have this feature gone and be able to complete buy orders without the need for sell order slots. If my intent was to just settle for people's buy orders for the sake of getting isk now instead of later, then I'd sooner just reprocess items for which there are no active buy orders and sell the minerals to get the isk now.
Yeah, I assumed the original complaint was the function was blocking you selling to buys if it was selling more stacks than you had sell slots (since I have screwed that one up before myself and filled all my sell order slots and then couldn't drop some items on to a buy because I was out of slots). If that isn't the problem, it should notify that there wasn't an eligable buy order for some items, and sell off only those that there were (so as you say, you can reprocess the rest, or pick and choose what sell orders you want to put up).
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2185
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:45:57 -
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Miranda Shoota wrote:I am trying this thing for the first time since it was released because I now have a bunch of **** to sell that I don't need to put up orders for....
Select all.. sell.. sell... that's what's meant to work now right?
Nope, not enough order slots.. How to get around this? You guessed it! Clickfest time!
Thanks, working as intended and all I hope.
Did you try turning it down to "immediate"?
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Serene Repose
1638
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:08:58 -
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Miranda Shoota wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE. Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P Like..."once in a while" as in "every now and then" after "things accumulate"? You mean THAT kind of "have to sell"?
I don't think "marketers" ( the target of the change ) do it quite the same way. Let's see, who should we tailor the marketing system to, hmmmmm?
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Vyl Vit
874
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:10:28 -
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Hi. I'm a marketer. I've got all the marketing skill trained to V. Works fine for me. AND, thanks CCP for the improvement.
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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