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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
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Posted - 2015.01.30 18:04:50 -
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Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, the Jove symbol is in the top left and right corners while the integral symbol is at the top and bottom.
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Kayba Kanade
Ireco Industries Zombie Pony Express
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:18:46 -
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Someone mentioned that the hull has battle damage on it (which CCP has revealed is what they're trying to do with the next graphical update).
It's possible that with the Jovian stargate network down, possibly an entire system blown up, and a Sansha invasion, that their society has gone into an apocalyptic scenario, from which the Drifter Battleships are fleeing refugees, and Circadians being a 'scout out a new place to set up camp' force. |
Rajeet Achmar
Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:46:42 -
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Really hoping it isnt like its up to capsuleers to "finish them off" Id rather them become another powerful race in New Eden to break the balance of the 4 empires instead of just becoming another irrelevant race that attacks you like the sansha's nation. |
Eojek
Starlight Moly
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:48:30 -
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Artistically, the ship's silhouette and form are pleasing to the eye. I am guessing much of the ship's detail will come from shaders and environmental interaction via the wonder of PBR. Still, I would lay in more subltle Geigeresque organic details native to Jovian architecture within the normal-map. |
Morgan Porterfield Freeman
Fenga Papits
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Posted - 2015.01.30 20:10:54 -
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Well, interestingly, in my day we used to call Jovians by an entirely different name. Though, I suppose, they might find it rude now. You see they were simpler times, when a man earned what he had by the sweat of his brow. Jovians weren't terribly interested in those things. They had a different way of looking at the world. You could see it in their beady eyes, the way they'd size you up. Then, on occasion, they'd just sit down and whistle a tune.
Yes it was simpler times.
I'm Morgan Freeman. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
16526
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:26:20 -
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Eojek wrote:Artistically, the ship's silhouette and form are pleasing to the eye. I am guessing much of the ship's detail will come from shaders and environmental interaction via the wonder of PBR. Still, I would lay in more subltle Geigeresque organic details native to Jovian architecture within the normal-map. http://m.imgur.com/MKb7YIQ
It looks a lot more Jovian in the game- this isn't my screenshot by the way- it looks MUCH more Geiger-esque
And I'd be devastated if this ended up just becoming another "enemy" to fight- this is the Jovians- they're much more important than that- and I'm sure CCP feels the same way
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
16526
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:00:03 -
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https://twitter.com/myronik/status/561244635004436480
The turret is called "Lux Kontos"- "Light Spear"- I'll post the stats once I know them.
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1065
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:02:34 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:The full image is now online Ok. Now i'm scared. This thing has a battle stance of some sort. Top left corner of the picture. Looking like station killer weapon.
I also noticed that. Reminds me of the stance-swapping of Tactical Destroyers. T3 battleships inbound?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
213
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:15:12 -
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Kayba Kanade wrote:It's possible that with the Jovian stargate network down, possibly an entire system blown up, and a Sansha invasion, that their society has gone into an apocalyptic scenario, from which the Drifter Battleships are fleeing refugees, and Circadians being a 'scout out a new place to set up camp' force. Suicide by star? or perhaps genocide?
Rajeet Achmar wrote:Really hoping it isnt like its up to capsuleers to "finish them off" Id rather them become another powerful race in New Eden to break the balance of the 4 empires instead of just becoming another irrelevant race that attacks you like the sansha's nation. This would be sad or just lack of imagination from the devs side. Elders are coming back, new possibilities opens.
How do they travel anyway? by wormholes? Gates are down.
"...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6154
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Posted - 2015.01.30 23:36:42 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Hey all, I did my best to combine the two pics that were linked in this thread. Anyway, how do I make a Jove BS spawn? I've read a few pages back, but I haven't found the secret to making a Jove BS spawn. I'm on Sisi with my gang, and have been for a couple hours, lurking at an Unidentified Structure. Killed maybe four sets of waves + reinforcements, but no Jove BS.
Sleeper exploration sites in known space might spawn them, "final room" I think. Getting to the end of those is going to take a team. Good luck.
BTW, if we start seeing people who look Jovian but have black eyes, those are NOT Jovian. And the people "sleeping" in those containments (supposedly) have blue eyes (no pupils or cornea either). Templar One touches on this without direct mention.
Considering how things usually go around here, I don't think Jovians are coming to give out toys to all of the good girls and boys.
And the Empress, who is also "The Other" (See Empyrean Age) can make sleepers stand down at will. Basically her latest public comment amounts to "Hey you people have been committing genocide all these years".
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Dyllan Ma'tar
Hoplite Brigade
0
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Posted - 2015.01.31 01:03:30 -
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The Other is a Sleeper, the Broker is the Other, the Broker is a Sleeper. That is all. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
16550
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Posted - 2015.01.31 05:33:40 -
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http://imgur.com/a/Xn759
Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff:
Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that.
The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6155
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Posted - 2015.01.31 05:57:37 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives
Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation.
But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once.
The plot thickens
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
16563
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Posted - 2015.01.31 06:00:52 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation. But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once. The plot thickens Maybe, I suppose- but the Jovian Directorate insignia in the top-left of the drifter concept is kind of telling.
I mean, it could simply mean that they have similar features, as in no hair, slim faces, similar body weight distributions, etc., but if CCP is putting them into the game once again, I doubt they'd make them too similar to each other to be told apart
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6155
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Posted - 2015.01.31 06:11:13 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation. But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once. The plot thickens Maybe, I suppose- but the Jovian Directorate insignia in the top-left of the drifter concept is kind of telling. I mean, it could simply mean that they have similar features, as in no hair, slim faces, similar body weight distributions, etc., but if CCP is putting them into the game once again, I doubt they'd make them too similar to each other to be told apart
OR
The character creator requires it.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29627
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Posted - 2015.01.31 07:13:45 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Hey all, I did my best to combine the two pics that were linked in this thread. Anyway, how do I make a Jove BS spawn? I've read a few pages back, but I haven't found the secret to making a Jove BS spawn. I'm on Sisi with my gang, and have been for a couple hours, lurking at an Unidentified Structure. Killed maybe four sets of waves + reinforcements, but no Jove BS. Sleeper exploration sites in known space might spawn them, "final room" I think. Getting to the end of those is going to take a team. Good luck. Well ****. I lurked at an unidentified object for... 12 hours today, while I did other things on the computer. Welp.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
213
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Posted - 2015.01.31 09:32:37 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Models are looking short. Jovians are about 4 feet tall. Also with cloths, without body hairs it will be hard to tell woman/man.
"...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
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Kharnakh
Acheron Imperial Ascendancy Acheron Imperial Dominion
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:28:43 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Models are looking short. Jovians are about 4 feet tall.
Hold on, is this true? The Jovian master race is a load of hobbits? :disappointment: |
Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
29
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:35:39 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians.
The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys.
I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:48:31 -
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Kharnakh wrote: Hold on, is this true? The Jovian master race is a load of hobbits? :disappointment:
Height has nothing to do with brain potential. It's adaptation to natural conditions, maybe they didn't need it. Green Lantern corp guardians were short, most of D&D elves are shorter than human race. Remeber small gun in Men in Black? They are looking scary, inhuman. In dark alley i would shoot first ask later.
"...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
16684
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Posted - 2015.01.31 17:22:01 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Models are looking short. Jovians are about 4 feet tall. Also with cloths, without body hairs it will be hard to tell woman/man. Well that's the old description at least- you're getting that one from the Jovian wet grave, right?
The "modern" one is in the short story "Theodicy" on the community website and in Templar One- they're relatively not-tall (Grious is ~5'11"), have extremely pale skin that looks and feels like wet glass, and have black veins going back from their eyes, which are pitch-black all around.
The "modern" image of the Jovians that appeared on-screen at Fanfest 2012 and in EVE: Source reflects that image completely.
But they still don't have any hair
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Asura Vajrarupa
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of Metropolis
29
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Posted - 2015.01.31 17:43:59 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation.
But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once.
The plot thickens
The Jovians had several empires, which covered several epochs of genetic modification. The Jovians we know now being the latest and possibly last iteration. These could be Jovians from an earlier epoch, and epoch which the current Jovians wished to separate themselves from. If that is the case then these are definitely Jovians, and they are definitely dangerous.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
287
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Posted - 2015.01.31 17:57:37 -
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I'm intrigued about those Lux Kontos. My theory is that they are similar to our turrets, excepting they're held in place by magnetic and/or gravitic fields. Probably they're stored inside the vessel while not in use or warping, and go out and get in position when needed. About the weapons themselves, they probably are some kind of laser, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were particle beams or even electric arc projectors.
About the "sorrowful brother"... My theory is that due to the continuous attacks on their facilities, Sleepers want to come back to the Jove Empire. However, they're seen as desertors, or are looked at with jealous eyes (due to not suffering the Jove disease), or maybe their brethen are not longer there (Sansha invasions?)...
I also wonder if the whole capsuleer experiment did work as expected for the Jove. Did they predict we would try to be independent, and even attack the Sleepers? Are we their way of dealing with the Sleepers?
I really hope too the Jove finally come back and they're not simply another red cross to shoot at. Faction Warfare, standings... come to mind. I'd love to fight at their side, or help them defend themselves or migrate. And even better, be Jove. That means, Jove characters.
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Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
31
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Posted - 2015.01.31 18:04:30 -
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Komodo brings up an interesting point;
Lux Kontos are hovering above the hull of the BS, not directly connected to it.
Does this mean that All turrets can glide and fire from literally anywhere on the surface of the ship? Allowng for full, perfectly-angular return fire?
No turret would ever be redundant, no matter the firing trajectory. |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
287
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:11:15 -
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Allant Doran wrote:Komodo brings up an interesting point;
Lux Kontos are hovering above the hull of the BS, not directly connected to it.
Does this mean that All turrets can glide and fire from literally anywhere on the surface of the ship? Allowng for full, perfectly-angular return fire?
No turret would ever be redundant, no matter the firing trajectory. If that's the case, they don't need multiple stances of the same turret or launcher spred over the ship to cover all angles; instead, the turret moves along the hull to keep line of sight to the target. Gameplay-wise it doesn't seem like a big advantage, but it might be from an in-character point of view, as it requires less redundancy.
I wonder if they have other properties. Maybe they can be left behind, so that they start to work as sentry drones? That makes me wonder if they have their own internal power source (as sentries do) or they're fed by the ship via wireless electric power. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6162
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:14:20 -
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Allant Doran wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too.
Ah but take the prophecy into account, the reference to "little Brother".
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Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:19:02 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Allant Doran wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too. Ah but take the prophecy into account, the reference to "little Brother".
I don't follow.
As far as I have always known, the Jovians ARE the 'little brother'. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5951
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:35:33 -
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So wait. The Sleepers and Jove were once the same race. Then they split apart and the Sleepers went digital while the Jove tried to overcome their disease. Now maybe the Sleepers un-digitized themselves and put their brains back into bodies, going to the Jove asking for help against the Capsuleers harvesting their people for implants and research.
But the jove wouldn't have any of it, resulting in Caroline's Star. The Sleepers are the little brothers to the Jove.
And now they are adrift in their new old spaceships and have a severe grudge both against the Jove and especially against the empires and their Capsuleers.
Edit: The Jove rejected the coming home of the Sleepers because they are (somewhat) responsible for the Other, which is screwing around in the Jove's carefully prepared Petri dish. So if the Sleepers are coming and screw even more around in it, the Jove may be some seriously pissed off about it.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
16686
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:52:30 -
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I've always felt that the sleepers were the "little brother"- and they and the Jovians are now working together to end the Other's threat.
Remember the jovian body parts being collected by sleepers posing as Hilen Tukoss? If they're working alongside the Jovians, it would make sense for them to end when they started..
A common enemy can make interesting things happen
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6162
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:57:29 -
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Allant Doran wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Allant Doran wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians.
Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too. Ah but take the prophecy into account, the reference to "little Brother". I don't follow. As far as I have always known, the Jovians ARE the 'little brother'.
Well there are 9 races in the game.
5 "modern" one, of which the Jove are listed. That would be Gallente, Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr as we know, with their known bloodlines.
4 ancient races: Yan Jung, Sleepers, Takmahl, and Talocan
It's actually a little "new" to me that the sleepers are indeed considered a race because my impression was that their drones were little more than just old battle systems abandoned long ago after whoever activated them died from some disease. But the mentions on Templar One kind of set the record straight and only recently I noticed that Wiki lists sleepers as a race.
And we have not had much interaction with them.
So we either have the appearance of an ancient race, seeing that there's a possibility that they have been living in some kind of cryo, or the Jove are back.
Templar One implies (without giving much away) that the meddling with sleeper tech seriously messes things up for them and another ancient race, or "their enemies" (not very clear) brought some kind of holocaust to the sleepers. I would have to go through the book again. The book only makes mention of this in one chapter, and the presence of these evil ones is not directly seen, just felt by the Templars and mostly implied. Exactly who they are remains a mystery.
I recall in the IGS forum some speculation that the Talocan were the bad guys and they sleepers went into cryo to either get away from them (or some biological warfare they were using) or the Talocan fell to some disease that the Sleepers went into cryo to escape from.
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