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Alexa Coates
Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.11.23 01:48:41 -
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About 3 months ago when I unsubbed for a break, missions for me were easy. My sleipnir and I could breeze through 90% of missions with little to no trouble. Now, I can't even do worlds collide or blockade or even friggin buzzkill without getting melted.
Has anything happened to missions since I left? Do I now HAVE to get a battleship?
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7260
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Posted - 2014.11.23 01:54:34 -
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The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Paranoid Loyd
2762
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Posted - 2014.11.23 01:54:38 -
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No
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Mehrune Khan
Viziam Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2014.11.23 02:05:18 -
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Dumb question - did you forget to activate a module maybe? For instance if you rely on cap boosters to keep your tank going, forgetting to turn it on could screw you over pretty bad.
Check out my idea for the Malabar mining barge
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5701
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Posted - 2014.11.23 02:20:53 -
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Isn't there some bug afoot about ship bonuses?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Alexa Coates
Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order
743
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Posted - 2014.11.23 02:49:50 -
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I'm hoping it's some kind of glitch. with 90% kin/therm resists, serps shouldn't be able to melt me in seconds, while my hyperion here can tank endlessly.
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
306
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Posted - 2014.11.23 02:54:53 -
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No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
818
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Posted - 2014.11.23 03:04:15 -
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I did blockade level 3 last night and had no trouble tanking it but my Damnation was useless. A third of the NPCs were named with 95% resists and the repair cycles were almost back to back. I ended up bringing an Abaddon in to clear them. I could hit objects for over 6K volley's and it still took 5 to 6 to melt the named cruisers. Final spawn, they brought in tracking disruption and stacked them 4 at a time on me so I had to return to Damnation and missile/ Drone combo them down, pulling drones every 30 seconds or lose them.
"Hard"?
They have made them a pointless time drag. |
Alexa Coates
Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order
743
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Posted - 2014.11.23 03:11:51 -
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I ended up getting a hyperion just so I could do this l4 blockade and i see it, even right in their faces it takes so many cycles to kill them.
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
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Ajunta Pal
Sith Wannabies Annonymous
11
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Posted - 2014.11.23 03:43:07 -
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Unless they did the change less than a week ago, then no, missions are not any harder. Are you remembering to tailor your resists to the specific NPCs you are fighting? Same goes for damage. Range can be a real factor as well.
Average mission time for a lvl3 in a tengu is 5mins, lvl4 is 10min Average mission time for a lvl3 in a vargur is 5mins, lvl4 is 8min
If you are being melted either your cap broke or your tank is wrong....omni-tank is only for the max skilled, and even then it will get you killed if you don't pay attention.
I occasionally get sansha and serp mixed up, and have had some close calls because of it. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10695
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Posted - 2014.11.23 04:03:49 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Isn't there some bug afoot about ship bonuses?
The resistance soft cap one? I thought they had that one fixed.
(basically, if your resistances hit above a certain mark, they were counted as zero, it was possible with some Deep Space Transports and some Command Ships)
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5959
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Posted - 2014.11.23 04:09:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else?
I run level 4s in an assault frigate.
Problem?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Trey Kutoi
Nyarlthotep Holdings Ltd.
34
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Posted - 2014.11.23 04:57:55 -
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I've been having issues with being bored out of my mind using a Gila for L4. nothing really stands a chance of killing me (except ishkurs + 20 catalyst warpin) but otherwise its just watch Dscan for probes, deploy drones, and click in space so I don't whack into anything. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5701
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Posted - 2014.11.23 08:13:45 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Isn't there some bug afoot about ship bonuses? The resistance soft cap one? I thought they had that one fixed. (basically, if your resistances hit above a certain mark, they were counted as zero, it was possible with some Deep Space Transports and some Command Ships)
I vaguely remember one kind of problem over the years and it pops up in the forums and maybe after some patches but basically it's when the ship lacks the kinds of bonus that a players skill would bring to it, like the percentage of repair per cycle based on skill for example.
Cache?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4356
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Posted - 2014.11.23 08:28:03 -
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The only harder missions in EVE are "burner" missions, but they are all frigate-only.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/size-matters-introducing-burner-missions/ http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/some-npcs-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn/
CCP Fozzie wrote:On day one, 207 Burner NPCs died, but they killed 1563 capsuleer ships. The machines are winning. #tweetfleet #eveonline #iskwar |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
3309
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Posted - 2014.11.23 08:56:47 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:About 3 months ago when I unsubbed for a break, missions for me were easy. My sleipnir and I could breeze through 90% of missions with little to no trouble. Now, I can't even do worlds collide or blockade or even friggin buzzkill without getting melted.
Has anything happened to missions since I left? Do I now HAVE to get a battleship?
Not as far as I've noticed, but then I've always run missions in a BS. A Raven in my average skilled alt gets the job done. The only thing going on is that loot is crap, which probably happens because of some interaction between player activity and dynamic loot tables.
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
166
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Posted - 2014.11.23 09:28:05 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem?
Oh goodie an ego post.
I just love ego posts.
What remiel is really saying is 'look at me, I'm uber... and possibly leet. '
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
166
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Posted - 2014.11.23 09:33:18 -
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[quote=Alexa Coates]About 3 months ago when I unsubbed for a break, missions for me were easy. My sleipnir and I could breeze through 90% of missions with little to no trouble. Now, I can't even do worlds collide or blockade or even friggin buzzkill without getting melted.
Has anything happened to missions since I left? Do I now HAVE to get a battleship?[/quote
I unsub for breaks pretty regular, you'd be amazed how much competence you can lose in a 3 month break.
people expect to be able to go at it like they used to before leaving. This surprises a lot of people who are unaware of the vast amount of player skill required to play eve.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Erin Crawford
356
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:06:15 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem? Oh goodie an ego post. I just love ego posts. What remiel is really saying is 'look at me, I'm uber... and possibly leet. '
Actually there are quite a few players taking even normal frigs in to L4s for the lols - has nothing to do with ego, being umber whatever or leet - just the fun factor. Try get a team of 4 or 5 in frigs and hit up an L4. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
786
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:15:57 -
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Yup. Ego has little to do with it. Running 3's and 4's in an AF is a blast. It's slower, so those who feel that ISK/hr is the only metric in the game worth considering are going to be baffled by the notion. On the other hand, mindlessly grinding out missions as fast as possible is not what I personally consider to be fun.
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Cynadore
3 R Corporation
18
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:58:17 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem?
Good for you that you have so much time on your hands. I've done it, but it takes forever. Enjoy your 2M ISK/hr. |
Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
166
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:10:04 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem? Oh goodie an ego post. I just love ego posts. What remiel is really saying is 'look at me, I'm uber... and possibly leet. ' Actually there are quite a few players taking even normal frigs in to L4s for the lols - has nothing to do with ego, being umber whatever or leet - just the fun factor. Try get a team of 4 or 5 in frigs and hit up an L4.
I know i've done all of those things myself in my 6 years of playing.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
166
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:10:50 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Yup. Ego has little to do with it. Running 3's and 4's in an AF is a blast. It's slower, so those who feel that ISK/hr is the only metric in the game worth considering are going to be baffled by the notion. On the other hand, mindlessly grinding out missions as fast as possible is not what I personally consider to be fun.
Well said sir.
+1 from me.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5960
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:11:45 -
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Cynadore wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem? Good for you that you have so much time on your hands. I've done it, but it takes forever. Enjoy your 2M ISK/hr.
I don't do it for the isk, I do it to steal the original mission runner's loot. Der. What do you take me for, some kinda PVE'er?
HEIL SANSHA!!!
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5961
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:24:54 -
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You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
167
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:28:15 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:You know what's always fun? Going into someone's lvl 4 mission, and if they don't shoot at you cuz you're GCC (only way to fly in highsec), then you shoot all their triggers in one room, draw all the spawns to the beacon, then reship to cloaky, return to room, and watch them instasplode when they land. Have fraps running for bonus points.
I rather like this...
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
790
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Posted - 2014.11.23 12:12:17 -
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Confirming that AF's are also great for invading other peoples' level 4 missions as well. And level 3's. And level 2's. I'd say level 1's, but they're usually done with before you finish scanning down the ship.
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Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
202
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Posted - 2014.11.23 12:16:25 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem?
I tried level 3's in an ishkur. It works until you stop moving, then you die.
Then again I do lose a ship every now and then to NPC's. Missions and complexes.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and
want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
6779
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Posted - 2014.11.23 12:21:39 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem?
Some people have done burners in battleship and they still lost a fight. So, yes. But problems are there to stay, because these problems are good kind of a problems for a game.
Recon makes them stronger
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5966
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Posted - 2014.11.23 12:22:15 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:No....they are way too easy.
Edit - and yes, you really should be doing L4s in a battleship or T3. Why on earth would you use something else? I run level 4s in an assault frigate. Problem? I tried level 3's in an ishkur. It works until you stop moving, then you die. Then again I do lose a ship every now and then to NPC's. Missions and complexes.
That's just frigates in general. The trick to frigate combat is don't ever stop moving. I teach rookies three things in frigate combat, the three golden rules:
1. A frig without prop is a dead frig 2. A motionless frig is a dead frig 3. Despite all that, you're probably still going to lose your frig.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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