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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:05:31 -
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So I'm pretty much corpless, dont really konw too many people, very inexperienced with the game. I don't know really what to do. I want to try things in eve but I'm a bit scared to. Incursion people are too... how shall I say critical and particular in what you fly apparently. I don't have any ships that can fly them at th emoment but I think I can afford one. I'm terrified of making mistakes becuase ppl tend to jump on you. I already got into an acquire conversation about my personal legion fit which, I admit isn't fancy or probably practical for most purposes but I use it for my own personal situations. Needless to say I want to enjoy and have fun but I'm at the moment limited in what I can do.
On top of that I want to find a corp, The corp I have now is my own personal corp more like a placeholder to avoid being in NPC corps so I don't get ppl attacking me within the npc corp as I can'ta fford to lose my ships right now. I can't seem to find a corp that I feel would fit me. There are a few that apparently really badly want me but I'm just a bit scared to go ahead and join one. I've already had a bit of a bad experience with a null sov corp and I dont want to put myself into that situation again. And as it stands I'm not really able to do much on my own obvoiusly. I really wish I knew what to do. I was told to look into e-uni corp but I don't meet their standing requirements. I'm at a loss as to what to do right. I dont think I could just join a corp, being that eve is so ruthless unlike all other MMO's. I keep having to play it safe absolutely dreading making a critical mistake. I've made a few of those and lost ships I shouldn't have lost. People tried scamming stuff off me, obviously I know better but You get what I mean. I'm not sure what to do at this point. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
528
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:21:07 -
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Go join FW.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
63
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:40:36 -
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as yang said, join FW. check out www.factionwarfare.com or check out my corp. :)
Just Add Water
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13971
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:42:28 -
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Also Red vs Blue.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Lan Wang
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
105
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:52:19 -
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Faction warfare is pretty managable when it comes to isk as its mostly frigates, i wouldnt fly a legion around looking for pvp because you will be hunted and will lose it moments after leaving highsec, learning in frigs is cheap and fun,
Brave noobies might teach you some stuff
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5959
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Posted - 2014.11.23 10:59:04 -
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Well.... as it happens, there's a bunch of really fun laid back players recruiting right now. Us.
When it comes to what you fly, we focus more on composition rather than doctrine, and you'll rarely see us in the same ship too often. We find that people using the same stuff over and over are too easily predictable. We don't like being predictable, so go nuts.
We don't care what you fly as much as we might ask questions regarding what you lose.
As for shiploss, we have SRP depending on circumstances. We'd cover that in more detail if you joined.
We are a PVP focused corp though. We don't care if you don't know anything about PVP because we'll teach you a lot more than just orbit+f1. But we do want you to PVP if you join. There's no playing it safe with us, there's only playing it fun. And we'll teach you to have as much fun whelping ships as you do killing them.
What we are in a nutshell: smallscale lowsec pirates that aren't afraid of butting heads with bigger dogs.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1457
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Posted - 2014.11.23 11:06:16 -
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All of the above.
On top of that:
Quote:The corp I have now is my own personal corp more like a placeholder to avoid being in NPC corps so I don't get ppl attacking me within the npc corp
I've never heard of that. You do risk"" being wardecced in your own corp while NPC corps are immune from that.
Anywho, loosing stuff, getting blown up, scammed etc. is just part of EVE. It's almost unavoidable. Learn to live with that, to shrug it off and move on to the next target you've set out.
And mistakes, we make them all. No problem as long as you learn from them.
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
986
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Posted - 2014.11.23 14:11:01 -
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The best day you will ever have in your Eve life is the day you realize that you no longer care if you get asploded. Go out and die some!
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1848
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Posted - 2014.11.23 14:16:07 -
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You will make mistakes and get blown up.
It doesn't actually matter though. Just go and kill some people. |
SpaceSaft
Capts Deranged Cavaliers Gentlemen's.Club
103
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Posted - 2014.11.23 14:38:05 -
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Ideally I'd like to show you that you can indeed trust null sec corps, if there is anything I can do to that effect, let me know.
If you absolutely don't want to trust a corp, your options are basically limited to everything that doesn't need larger numbers to pull off, solo or small group pvp in lowsec or faction warfare, exploration, mining and industry stuff.
General advice: If anyone wants something from you that has an ingame value to them, they probably don't have your best interests in mind. Also if they really want you and you are really new, chances are they will just give you everything you need where they live, no need to ship anything anywhere or hand anything over. |
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
986
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Posted - 2014.11.23 15:40:48 -
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Greetings Jhante Vhael
Your name come to me of good standing and honorable. My name is Boombas Mumbatukameep and I am happy of ambassador of finance from Niarja. His High Excellency Chief Pokalottatwat has throne been taken and is no longer his by military upheaval in Niarja. His Excellency must be moved to Amarr, and am sadly becuase I am been entrusted of good faith to transfer special funds of money for his Excellency Chief Pokalottatwat.
Due to transfer of funds and no Amarrian bank accounts, it is been entrusted to me for so move funds for Big Chief Pokalottatwat. Your name come to me from friends and many others of repute in galaxy. We must transfer 100 million isk for bank account of Mr Big Chief Pokalottatwat. Because of tranaction tax and mistrust of Amarrian bankers of my Big Chief, I am for to have contact person of repute to assist in this matter.
For your time you are to be having 23% of isk to be moved from Niarja to Amarr. Please first forward to me details of your account with number and location so that we may first transfer funds then after taxes give to you 23%. Time is urgent.
Thank You, Boombas Mumbatukameep Accepted of Finance and Honorable
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:14:19 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:All of the above. On top of that: Quote:The corp I have now is my own personal corp more like a placeholder to avoid being in NPC corps so I don't get ppl attacking me within the npc corp I've never heard of that. You do risk"" being wardecced in your own corp while NPC corps are immune from that. Anywho, loosing stuff, getting blown up, scammed etc. is just part of EVE. It's almost unavoidable. Learn to live with that, to shrug it off and move on to the next target you've set out. And mistakes, we make them all. No problem as long as you learn from them.
I've done this plenty of times across multiple characters i"ve NEVER been wardecced and if I was I'd just go play an alt and wait out the wardec. In an npc corp they can shoot you without penalty. I'm flying a few ships that I don't want to risk that way. I don't do anything to warrant a wardec. I don't see the benefit, even the dickish ones, to wardeccing a 1 man corp that is so far off grid you'd need an electron microscope to see me. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:17:25 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Go join FW.
I actaully though about faction warfare, but the problem is money. I want to be able to do stuff to make money and if i'm in FW people can attack me in high sec if i wanted to lets say mine. Now I have an alt that I joined FW just to experience it, fun as hell but she is literally fresh out of the box so her skills aren't the best. First day of FW I fitted a rifter and went to go look for something to shoot at, the station I was at had 2 legion WT and i was immediatly 1 shot upon exiting the station. So ya I couldn't do any type of mission running or mining in high sec. Yes I HAVE heard there are faction missions but honestly I don't want to ruin my standings on this character which is the main reason I didn't do it on my main. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:22:38 -
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SpaceSaft wrote:Ideally I'd like to show you that you can indeed trust null sec corps, if there is anything I can do to that effect, let me know.
If you absolutely don't want to trust a corp, your options are basically limited to everything that doesn't need larger numbers to pull off, solo or small group pvp in lowsec or faction warfare, exploration, mining and industry stuff.
General advice: If anyone wants something from you that has an ingame value to them, they probably don't have your best interests in mind. Also if they really want you and you are really new, chances are they will just give you everything you need where they live, no need to ship anything anywhere or hand anything over.
Well I was in a null provi SOV corp for about a month, it was an interesting experience. For the most part I was doing nothing but mining and sansha hubs simply because the corp was so new and all the people that were recruited were brand newbs and I was one of the only pilots able to fly stuff to be self sufficient. And due to a falling out with the CEO, he was by f ar a ****, I left that corp. Now I know this is my only experience with null so far but it wasnt the best one and i'm very hesitant. I dont care about blowing up certain ships. But I like to fly blingy ships and I dont have a good way to make the money to replace them if I blow them up. I have been wanting to join a WH corp since I heard they get a bit of everything and actually are great for isk making. As far as what I actually want to do? I don't knw. I haven't experienced hardly anythign in this game. I JUST started fw on the one of my other alts, I have only been in null a month and it was a not the best experience. I'm about to try incursions too and ironically one of the corps wanting me in their ranks is a high sec incursion corp but I dont know if i want to be in a high sec corp high sec is a bit boring :/. Even if they say incursions are intense awesome and all that jazz. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:25:18 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Well.... as it happens, there's a bunch of really fun laid back players recruiting right now. Us.When it comes to what you fly, we focus more on composition rather than doctrine, and you'll rarely see us in the same ship too often. We find that people using the same stuff over and over are too easily predictable. We don't like being predictable, so go nuts. We don't care what you fly as much as we might ask questions regarding what you lose. As for shiploss, we have SRP depending on circumstances. We'd cover that in more detail if you joined. We are a PVP focused corp though. We don't care if you don't know anything about PVP because we'll teach you a lot more than just orbit+f1. But we do want you to PVP if you join. There's no playing it safe with us, there's only playing it fun. And we'll teach you to have as much fun whelping ships as you do killing them. What we are in a nutshell: smallscale lowsec pirates that aren't afraid of butting heads with bigger dogs.
I forgot to mention in my other replies, my main focus isn't pvp so much, its fun to do don't get me wrong but the simple fact is I dont really care to fly frigates or destroyers all the time to pvp. I mean my favorite type of ships to use range from cruisers to bs's. You can't really use those too wel in pvp I have found. Now in curions on the other hand are able to do that and they aren't pvp of course. I want to blow stuff in blingy ships, can't realy do that in pvp, unless you are so loaded with isk throwing away billions a fight isn't a problem and well I don't think there are a whole lot of ppl that do that, I could be wrong. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:26:46 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Greetings Jhante Vhael
Your name come to me of good standing and honorable. My name is Boombas Mumbatukameep and I am happy of ambassador of finance from Niarja. His High Excellency Chief Pokalottatwat has throne been taken and is no longer his by military upheaval in Niarja. His Excellency must be moved to Amarr, and am sadly becuase I am been entrusted of good faith to transfer special funds of money for his Excellency Chief Pokalottatwat.
Due to transfer of funds and no Amarrian bank accounts, it is been entrusted to me for so move funds for Big Chief Pokalottatwat. Your name come to me from friends and many others of repute in galaxy. We must transfer 100 million isk for bank account of Mr Big Chief Pokalottatwat. Because of tranaction tax and mistrust of Amarrian bankers of my Big Chief, I am for to have contact person of repute to assist in this matter.
For your time you are to be having 23% of isk to be moved from Niarja to Amarr. Please first forward to me details of your account with number and location so that we may first transfer funds then after taxes give to you 23%. Time is urgent.
Thank You, Boombas Mumbatukameep Accepted of Finance and Honorable
Ok wow, I saved this one for last. I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea how to take your post. Are you being sarcastic, roleplaying, serious? I'm not trying to be rude, mean, or making fun. I simply am just trying to get an idea of how to take this post. I can't hardly understand half of it and I just can't make heads or tails of what you are trying to say... |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5975
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:36:50 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Well.... as it happens, there's a bunch of really fun laid back players recruiting right now. Us.When it comes to what you fly, we focus more on composition rather than doctrine, and you'll rarely see us in the same ship too often. We find that people using the same stuff over and over are too easily predictable. We don't like being predictable, so go nuts. We don't care what you fly as much as we might ask questions regarding what you lose. As for shiploss, we have SRP depending on circumstances. We'd cover that in more detail if you joined. We are a PVP focused corp though. We don't care if you don't know anything about PVP because we'll teach you a lot more than just orbit+f1. But we do want you to PVP if you join. There's no playing it safe with us, there's only playing it fun. And we'll teach you to have as much fun whelping ships as you do killing them. What we are in a nutshell: smallscale lowsec pirates that aren't afraid of butting heads with bigger dogs. I forgot to mention in my other replies, my main focus isn't pvp so much, its fun to do don't get me wrong but the simple fact is I dont really care to fly frigates or destroyers all the time to pvp. I mean my favorite type of ships to use range from cruisers to bs's. You can't really use those too wel in pvp I have found. Now in curions on the other hand are able to do that and they aren't pvp of course. I want to blow stuff in blingy ships, can't realy do that in pvp, unless you are so loaded with isk throwing away billions a fight isn't a problem and well I don't think there are a whole lot of ppl that do that, I could be wrong.
EVE is a PVP game which includes PVE content that you can still be PVP'd while trying to run. And don't be silly, there is no such thing as a ship that isn't capable or is less capable of PVP. We use a wide variety.
Shunning PVP in a PVP game is how you make it harder for yourself. And make no mistake, this is a PVP game, which is why the PVE content is so generic and repetitive, as if it's an afterthought. It's your call at the end of of the day, though.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
2078
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:42:13 -
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You should day-trip wormholes from high-sec in a non-cloaky T3. Be sure to fit some purple modules too. Best advice I can give you.
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25549
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:43:50 -
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whatever you do, don't join goons. it's the ******* worst ***** **** and **** didn't even **** the **** was *********.
****.
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Lister Dax
Intergalactic Trade and Harm
17
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:44:31 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote: In an npc corp they can shoot you without penalty.
I'm pretty sure this isn't the case.
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Ria Nieyli
24028
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:47:49 -
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Rain6637 wrote:whatever you do, don't join goons. it's the ******* worst ***** **** and **** didn't even **** the **** was *********.
****.
Can I buy a vowel?
Clone Grade Nu
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
2078
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:53:02 -
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Can't believe people get so conflicted over what kind of PvE they want to do in EVE...
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:54:27 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Can't believe people get so conflicted over what kind of PvE they want to do in EVE...
You play EVE how you like it I like to play it how I like to play. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:55:34 -
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Rain6637 wrote:whatever you do, don't join goons. it's the ******* worst ***** **** and **** didn't even **** the **** was *********.
****.
Had no plans to. Was already approached by one of your administrative corps I turned them down. Not interested in politics. |
Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
9
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Posted - 2014.11.23 20:09:34 -
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Start off by actually telling us what you would want to do in EVE, but can't because of X obstacles?
I know you typed a long post somewhat telling us your issues, but really tell us what you want to do. If you don't know specifics of exact professions, then tell us a little bit about what you generally like to do in games. These really help others understand what you're talking about and could really allow them to make suggestions.
For example, I came to EVE 10 years ago, I started playing for a year and then asked if piracy existed in this game. Someone quickly linked me to some stuff about m0o Corp and what they had done etc. Then I got some insight on what I should focus on skillwise and who the up and coming pirate outfits were. That's when I joined one of the first pirate alliances in the game. It was all downhill from there.
Hope that helps.
Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate
Former The Pirate Syndicate Member
Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member
Former Burn Eden member
Former BioMass Cartel member
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
2078
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Posted - 2014.11.23 20:15:38 -
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Famine Aligher'ri wrote:Start off by actually telling us what you would want to do in EVE, but can't because of X obstacles? This is basically it, OP, you're hindering yourself. Go make some friends, join public channels for the things you want to do. You'll increase your chances of finding a corp, get advice on how to do the things you want to do, etc...
Alternatively, you could just run missions solo until you're bored to tears...
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 20:27:15 -
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Famine Aligher'ri wrote:Start off by actually telling us what you would want to do in EVE, but can't because of X obstacles? I know you typed a long post somewhat telling us your issues, but really tell us what you want to do. If you don't know specifics of exact professions, then tell us a little bit about what you generally like to do in games. These really help others understand what you're talking about and could really allow them to make suggestions. For example, I came to EVE 10 years ago, I started playing for a year and then asked if piracy existed in this game. Someone quickly linked me to some stuff about m0o Corp and what they had done etc. Then I got some insight on what I should focus on skillwise and who the up and coming pirate outfits were. That's when I joined one of the first pirate alliances in the game. It was all downhill from there. Hope that helps.
Well, I want to make lots of isk to buy blingy ships to blow up other ships, be it pve or pvp :P. I guess null isn't out of the question I just need to find a somewhat decenly sized corp that is really active. I don't want to get stuck out in null like I did before which is what I'm most fearful of. I actually liked it in null. Though my pvp experiences were bad. |
Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
10
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Posted - 2014.11.23 21:57:22 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote:Famine Aligher'ri wrote:Start off by actually telling us what you would want to do in EVE, but can't because of X obstacles? I know you typed a long post somewhat telling us your issues, but really tell us what you want to do. If you don't know specifics of exact professions, then tell us a little bit about what you generally like to do in games. These really help others understand what you're talking about and could really allow them to make suggestions. For example, I came to EVE 10 years ago, I started playing for a year and then asked if piracy existed in this game. Someone quickly linked me to some stuff about m0o Corp and what they had done etc. Then I got some insight on what I should focus on skillwise and who the up and coming pirate outfits were. That's when I joined one of the first pirate alliances in the game. It was all downhill from there. Hope that helps. Well, I want to make lots of isk to buy blingy ships to blow up other ships, be it pve or pvp :P. I guess null isn't out of the question I just need to find a somewhat decenly sized corp that is really active. I don't want to get stuck out in null like I did before which is what I'm most fearful of. I actually liked it in null. Though my pvp experiences were bad.
That's a good start.
It sounds like you are shooting for a pretty generic corporation that offers a wide variety of activities from missions to PvP to even potentially mining and production. These types of corporations are really a dime-a-dozen in EVE. It's just some do it better than others. I'm sure some posters may give you some suggestions on good overall corps that are not in NULL, but overall I would suggest doing your own research for corporations that may be your cup-of-tea. If you can't find ones, then hit up the recruitment channel in-game as well in the forums. See who is willing to recruit you and then research all the submissions for the best option.
At the end of the day, no one can give you a sure-thing. You just have to make the best choice and hope it works out. If not, leave and keep searching for a corporation who is going to satisfy your needs with a good ISK income and corp mates that can help you along the way.
Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate
Former The Pirate Syndicate Member
Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member
Former Burn Eden member
Former BioMass Cartel member
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
386
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:16:31 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote:Famine Aligher'ri wrote:Start off by actually telling us what you would want to do in EVE, but can't because of X obstacles? I know you typed a long post somewhat telling us your issues, but really tell us what you want to do. If you don't know specifics of exact professions, then tell us a little bit about what you generally like to do in games. These really help others understand what you're talking about and could really allow them to make suggestions. For example, I came to EVE 10 years ago, I started playing for a year and then asked if piracy existed in this game. Someone quickly linked me to some stuff about m0o Corp and what they had done etc. Then I got some insight on what I should focus on skillwise and who the up and coming pirate outfits were. That's when I joined one of the first pirate alliances in the game. It was all downhill from there. Hope that helps. Well, I want to make lots of isk to buy blingy ships to blow up other ships, be it pve or pvp :P. I guess null isn't out of the question I just need to find a somewhat decenly sized corp that is really active. I don't want to get stuck out in null like I did before which is what I'm most fearful of. I actually liked it in null. Though my pvp experiences were bad.
If PvP with PvE on the side is your thing then a WH corp would also fit your bill, just make sure you pick the right corp and not a gang of complete muppets like the ones that moved in our old c3 WH (and started shooting our POCO). For 3 days we watched as they were constantly ganged by half of EVE from the looks of it, hell we were afraid that they might actually just back up and leave before our planned "visit" when POCO would return from reinforcement. I mean frankly we couldn't keep our face straight from what our scouts reported back to us. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
307
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:20:16 -
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Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. |
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5977
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:30:53 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game.
Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:37:02 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does.
Please no flame wars. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
307
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:39:43 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does. Please no flame wars.
Just ignore him...he is a troll. Incursion groups can often seem very picky about fits, but that's because they have optimized for survival and for isk/hour. Try Warp to Me Incursions - they are very new player friendly, and lots of fun. Just fit EXACTLY according to their fitting website. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5978
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:41:15 -
[34] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Jhante Vhael wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does. Please no flame wars. Just ignore him...he is a troll. Incursion groups can often seem very picky about fits, but that's because they have optimized for survival and for isk/hour. Try Warp to Me Incursions - they are very new player friendly, and lots of fun. Just fit EXACTLY according to their fitting website.
Or find some people that don't have sticks up their bums and fit however the heck you want, and learn from your own experience rather than what some nerd tells you to do. And make no mistake, isk/hour is for nerds. Fun/hour is where the real EVE party is at.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:41:43 -
[35] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game.
I'm actually grinding SOE standings, up to L3 missions now shouldn't be too long than I can run l4's. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:43:18 -
[36] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Jhante Vhael wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does. Please no flame wars. Just ignore him...he is a troll. Incursion groups can often seem very picky about fits, but that's because they have optimized for survival and for isk/hour. Try Warp to Me Incursions - they are very new player friendly, and lots of fun. Just fit EXACTLY according to their fitting website.
Well I don't have the money to run some of the fits they need. Most of those ships are like 400m at the least. I don't exactly have that kind of cash :P. And I can't sell a bpo that would give me the cash needed to buy that but... ya no one wants it :/ |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
307
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:49:22 -
[37] - Quote
Jhante Vhael wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Jhante Vhael wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does. Please no flame wars. Just ignore him...he is a troll. Incursion groups can often seem very picky about fits, but that's because they have optimized for survival and for isk/hour. Try Warp to Me Incursions - they are very new player friendly, and lots of fun. Just fit EXACTLY according to their fitting website. Well I don't have the money to run some of the fits they need. Most of those ships are like 400m at the least. I don't exactly have that kind of cash :P. And I can't sell a bpo that would give me the cash needed to buy that but... ya no one wants it :/
Warp to me will actually take you in a T1 Hyperion or Rokh. Grinding L3s is pretty rough...make sure to train up your social skills for standings increases. Your life will be a lot easier if you are willing to buy a couple of plex and fit up a decent Machariel with a good implant set. You should never need to buy any plex after that.
something like this:
Machariel 7 T2 800 Acs 2 T2 Adaptives Dread Guristas XL Shield Booster Domination shield Boost Amplifier Gist B 100 MN AB 4 Republic Fleet Gyros 2 T2 Tracking Enhancers Damage control 1 T2 Cap Control Circuit Rig 2 T1 Cap Control Circuit Rig RF EMP & Warrior 2 drones
Add halos in the attributes, 5% cap recharge, 5% tracking, Zor's 5% velocity bonus, and two 5% damage implants, and you are golden.
That will absolutely tear up SOE L4s and earn you an easy 75 mil an hour.
On the other hand incursions are a lot more social and a lot more fun...so I would really suggest checking them up. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5979
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:49:43 -
[38] - Quote
Jhante Vhael wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Jhante Vhael wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Convo me in game about incursions. I can definitely help you fit a proper ship and get started. Also, can you help get into SOE L4s, which are a good isk maker. I'd tend to avoid highsec PvE corps - the ones that publicly recruit are terrible.
If you want nullsec, try Waffles, or a similar entry level corp. Remember that you don't need a corp or nullsec to enjoy the game, there is tons of fun to be had in highsec incursions or L4s, and I'd be happy to get you involves...just convo me sometime in game. Listening to this guy about anything is bound to cause you to fail at eve as bad as he does. Please no flame wars. Just ignore him...he is a troll. Incursion groups can often seem very picky about fits, but that's because they have optimized for survival and for isk/hour. Try Warp to Me Incursions - they are very new player friendly, and lots of fun. Just fit EXACTLY according to their fitting website. Well I don't have the money to run some of the fits they need. Most of those ships are like 400m at the least. I don't exactly have that kind of cash :P. And I can't sell a bpo that would give me the cash needed to buy that but... ya no one wants it :/
Do yourself a huge favour and just don't listen to Veers. Listen to literally anyone BUT Veers. He has nothing to offer but his own agenda and self-interest. Run incursions, missions, all that carebear stuff, do what you want, but as a far more experienced player than little ol' Mr Belvar here, I'm merely advising you that he is not where you want to go for advice. No flame, just a general consensus in the greater EVE community.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5979
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:51:18 -
[39] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:
Silly carebear advice.
At the end of the day, I know you think I hate you, but I'm really only trying to help you.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
307
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:52:05 -
[40] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do yourself a huge favour and just don't listen to Veers. Listen to literally anyone BUT Veers. He has nothing to offer but his own agenda and self-interest. Run incursions, missions, all that carebear stuff, do what you want, but as a far more experienced player than little ol' Mr Belvar here, I'm merely advising you that he is not where you want to go for advice. No flame, just a general consensus in the greater EVE community.
Could you stop with the trolling and personal attacks? It gets nauseating. Stop obsessing over me. Get help. |
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5981
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:54:52 -
[41] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do yourself a huge favour and just don't listen to Veers. Listen to literally anyone BUT Veers. He has nothing to offer but his own agenda and self-interest. Run incursions, missions, all that carebear stuff, do what you want, but as a far more experienced player than little ol' Mr Belvar here, I'm merely advising you that he is not where you want to go for advice. No flame, just a general consensus in the greater EVE community.
Could you stop with the trolling and personal attacks? It gets nauseating. Stop obsessing over me. Get help.
I never started. I'm just trying to keep a newbro out of the clutches of a failbear and subsequently do EVE Online, as a game and a community, a favour. You are demonstrably the worst kind of player for a new player to get any advice from ever. It's nothing personal, you've just demonstrated time and again that you are no good for the NPE. You are, in fact, a danger to it.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
307
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Posted - 2014.11.23 22:57:10 -
[42] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do yourself a huge favour and just don't listen to Veers. Listen to literally anyone BUT Veers. He has nothing to offer but his own agenda and self-interest. Run incursions, missions, all that carebear stuff, do what you want, but as a far more experienced player than little ol' Mr Belvar here, I'm merely advising you that he is not where you want to go for advice. No flame, just a general consensus in the greater EVE community.
Could you stop with the trolling and personal attacks? It gets nauseating. Stop obsessing over me. Get help. I never started. I'm just trying to keep a newbro out of the clutches of a failbear and subsequently do EVE Online, as a game and a community, a favour. You are demonstrably the worst kind of player for a new player to get any advice from ever. It's nothing personal, you've just demonstrated that you are no good for the NPE. You are, in fact, a danger to it.
That's nice. So shut up and give whatever advice you would like to give. Notice how I didn't attack the previous suggestions or rip the people posting them. I just gave some advice, and moved on. Try to do the same. Cut the grr Veers crap, say your piece, and shut up. No one cares what you think about me. No one really care about what you think about Eve, so just shut up. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:00:44 -
[43] - Quote
Veers Belvar
Just ignore him...he is a troll. Incursion groups can often seem very picky about fits, but that's because they have optimized for survival and for isk/hour. Try Warp to Me Incursions - they are very new player friendly, and lots of fun. Just fit EXACTLY according to their fitting website.
Well I don't have the money to run some of the fits they need. Most of those ships are like 400m at the least. I don't exactly have that kind of cash :P. And I can't sell a bpo that would give me the cash needed to buy that but... ya no one wants it :/[/quote wrote:
Warp to me will actually take you in a T1 Hyperion or Rokh. Grinding L3s is pretty rough...make sure to train up your social skills for standings increases. Your life will be a lot easier if you are willing to buy a couple of plex and fit up a decent Machariel with a good implant set. You should never need to buy any plex after that.
something like this:
Machariel 7 T2 800 Acs 2 T2 Adaptives Dread Guristas XL Shield Booster Domination shield Boost Amplifier Gist B 100 MN AB 4 Republic Fleet Gyros 2 T2 Tracking Enhancers Damage control 1 T2 Cap Control Circuit Rig 2 T1 Cap Control Circuit Rig RF EMP & Warrior 2 drones
Add halos in the attributes, 5% cap recharge, 5% tracking, Zor's 5% velocity bonus, and two 5% damage implants, and you are golden.
That will absolutely tear up SOE L4s and earn you an easy 75 mil an hour.
On the other hand incursions are a lot more social and a lot more fun...so I would really suggest checking them up.
I just spoke to a few people in the incursion channel, and from what I'm gathering I'm not exactly skilled in the right area's for their incursion running, nor do I have the money to fit anything they would require :/. I'm at an impasse at least for incursion running. And as much fun null is I want to make money not be supplied ships in an SRP. I don't mind the SRP but i want to have billions to mess around with. I know it may sound stupid to most of you if not all, but thast how I play eve. I fly what I like, unless its for specific things like roam pvp/incursions etc... I may be the worlds crappeist eve player but i enjoy what I do.
However if I cannot make the money that is moot at this point. It takes a crap tonne of money to get into incursions, money I don't have and I dont even know if I can afford to risk right now. It would take me weeks of not a month or 2 of mining to get a ship together, and having padding incase I lose that ship. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5981
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:01:05 -
[44] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do yourself a huge favour and just don't listen to Veers. Listen to literally anyone BUT Veers. He has nothing to offer but his own agenda and self-interest. Run incursions, missions, all that carebear stuff, do what you want, but as a far more experienced player than little ol' Mr Belvar here, I'm merely advising you that he is not where you want to go for advice. No flame, just a general consensus in the greater EVE community.
Could you stop with the trolling and personal attacks? It gets nauseating. Stop obsessing over me. Get help. I never started. I'm just trying to keep a newbro out of the clutches of a failbear and subsequently do EVE Online, as a game and a community, a favour. You are demonstrably the worst kind of player for a new player to get any advice from ever. It's nothing personal, you've just demonstrated that you are no good for the NPE. You are, in fact, a danger to it. That's nice. So shut up and give whatever advice you would like to give. Notice how I didn't attack the previous suggestions or rip the people posting them. I just gave some advice, and moved on. Try to do the same. Cut the grr Veers crap, say your piece, and shut up. No one cares what you think about me. No one really care about what you think about Eve, so just shut up.
You seem mad, but allow me to clarify and reiterate: who cares about what is irrelevant. I care about EVE, and you, demonstrably, do not. So in caring about EVE, I have to make sure that people giving BAD advice or people demonstrably not qualified to give advice are countered in order to prevent the metastasis of bad advice perpetuating in EVE Online, which ultimately does more harm to the game than good. This isn't about you Veers. This is about you being demonstrably unqualified to help a newbro in EVE Online. I'd be doing the same thing if it were someone else demonstrably unqualified for the task as well.
Always so self-absorbed, aren't you. Always thinking it's all about you. Well it's not, my interest is the game and the community as a whole, and you and your 'advice' are demonstrably bad for it.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
993
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:05:51 -
[45] - Quote
OP, perhaps see how you like doing relic sites? It used to be my primary means of income and I can tell you it can be very lucrative. A decent night in lowsec would net me 100-200m isk, a decent night in nullsec can net you 400-700m or so, no joke. My first night doing em in nullsec I made 770M in a few hours. I got quite hooked on it, plus it's one of those jobs where u dont have to constantly be at the KB. Cloak up and go take that dump or make that sammich :D
Shoot me a mail in-game sometime if you wanna check it out and I'll be happy to give you some pointers on it.
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:07:32 -
[46] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do yourself a huge favour and just don't listen to Veers. Listen to literally anyone BUT Veers. He has nothing to offer but his own agenda and self-interest. Run incursions, missions, all that carebear stuff, do what you want, but as a far more experienced player than little ol' Mr Belvar here, I'm merely advising you that he is not where you want to go for advice. No flame, just a general consensus in the greater EVE community.
Could you stop with the trolling and personal attacks? It gets nauseating. Stop obsessing over me. Get help. I never started. I'm just trying to keep a newbro out of the clutches of a failbear and subsequently do EVE Online, as a game and a community, a favour. You are demonstrably the worst kind of player for a new player to get any advice from ever. It's nothing personal, you've just demonstrated that you are no good for the NPE. You are, in fact, a danger to it. That's nice. So shut up and give whatever advice you would like to give. Notice how I didn't attack the previous suggestions or rip the people posting them. I just gave some advice, and moved on. Try to do the same. Cut the grr Veers crap, say your piece, and shut up. No one cares what you think about me. No one really care about what you think about Eve, so just shut up. You seem mad, but allow me to clarify and reiterate: who cares about what is irrelevant. I care about EVE, and you, demonstrably, do not. So in caring about EVE, I have to make sure that people giving BAD advice or people demonstrably not qualified to give advice are countered in order to prevent the metastasis of bad advice perpetuating in EVE Online, which ultimately does more harm to the game than good. This isn't about you Veers. This is about you being demonstrably unqualified to help a newbro in EVE Online. I'd be doing the same thing if it were someone else demonstrably unqualified for the task as well. Always so self-absorbed, aren't you. Always thinking it's all about you. Well it's not, my interest is the game and the community as a whole, and you and your 'advice' are demonstrably bad for it.
Here in lies the issue I see. He's giving me advice. I don't know if its bad or good and frankly its advice so I'm taking it. You on the other hand have done nothing but flame and attack him. So far as I can see it you are the problem here not him. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
795
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
The fun/hour goal is the one I'd recommend shooting for. Those who are obsessed about ISK/hr ratio and total optimization are turning a game into a second job that you pay to work at. Micromanaging and fit crafting are fine every once in a while, but too much makes the brain go mushy. Find some folks who enjoy explosions as much as you do, and that you can get along with. PVE or PVP it just doesn't matter if you go up in flames now and then, so long as you've had fun in the process. (Also, failure is the best teacher... assuming you're sober enough to recall what you did wrong.) |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
307
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:08:10 -
[48] - Quote
Jhante Vhael wrote:
I just spoke to a few people in the incursion channel, and from what I'm gathering I'm not exactly skilled in the right area's for their incursion running, nor do I have the money to fit anything they would require :/. I'm at an impasse at least for incursion running. And as much fun null is I want to make money not be supplied ships in an SRP. I don't mind the SRP but i want to have billions to mess around with. I know it may sound stupid to most of you if not all, but thast how I play eve. I fly what I like, unless its for specific things like roam pvp/incursions etc... I may be the worlds crappeist eve player but i enjoy what I do.
However if I cannot make the money that is moot at this point. It takes a crap tonne of money to get into incursions, money I don't have and I dont even know if I can afford to risk right now. It would take me weeks of not a month or 2 of mining to get a ship together, and having padding incase I lose that ship.
Check this site.... http://forums.eve-warptome.com/index.php?/topic/151-projectiles/
Can you fit the TFI or the Maelstrom? Those should both be relatively cheap to fit. Around 300 mil or so, or even less. And you will make the money back very quickly.
If that is still to much grind L3s until you can do SOE L4s. Then use a MJD Raven fit to clear those until you have more isk.
Edit - the way I did it was grind Brutor Tribe L3s until I had enough for a maelstrom. Then I did brutor tribe L4s with buddies from NPC corp. Saved up for a mach, and was ready for incursions. But warp to me will let you in with a basic T1 battleship....so that could be even quicker than what I did. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
|
Posted - 2014.11.23 23:09:10 -
[49] - Quote
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:OP, perhaps see how you like doing relic sites? It used to be my primary means of income and I can tell you it can be very lucrative. A decent night in lowsec would net me 100-200m isk, a decent night in nullsec can net you 400-700m or so, no joke. My first night doing em in nullsec I made 770M in a few hours. I got quite hooked on it, plus it's one of those jobs where u dont have to constantly be at the KB. Cloak up and go take that dump or make that sammich :D
Shoot me a mail in-game sometime if you wanna check it out and I'll be happy to give you some pointers on it.
I'm only 2 days away from cloak then I'll fit up an astero :P. I did a few high sec relic sites not bad but my skills are subpar right now for exploration. Might be a good way to get money to get into incursions. I don't know not familiar with low/null/wh exploration really. And being alone doing this without any experience might not be a good move |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:11:56 -
[50] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Jhante Vhael wrote:
I just spoke to a few people in the incursion channel, and from what I'm gathering I'm not exactly skilled in the right area's for their incursion running, nor do I have the money to fit anything they would require :/. I'm at an impasse at least for incursion running. And as much fun null is I want to make money not be supplied ships in an SRP. I don't mind the SRP but i want to have billions to mess around with. I know it may sound stupid to most of you if not all, but thast how I play eve. I fly what I like, unless its for specific things like roam pvp/incursions etc... I may be the worlds crappeist eve player but i enjoy what I do.
However if I cannot make the money that is moot at this point. It takes a crap tonne of money to get into incursions, money I don't have and I dont even know if I can afford to risk right now. It would take me weeks of not a month or 2 of mining to get a ship together, and having padding incase I lose that ship.
Check this site.... http://forums.eve-warptome.com/index.php?/topic/151-projectiles/ Can you fit the TFI or the Maelstrom? Those should both be relatively cheap to fit. Around 300 mil or so, or even less. And you will make the money back very quickly. If that is still to much grind L3s until you can do SOE L4s. Then use a MJD Raven fit to clear those until you have more isk. Edit - the way I did it was grind Brutor Tribe L3s until I had enough for a maelstrom. Then I did brutor tribe L4s with buddies from NPC corp. Saved up for a mach, and was ready for incursions. But warp to me will let you in with a basic T1 battleship....so that could be even quicker than what I did.
Right now I can only fly amarr/caldari BS's, and I only have t2 pulse lasers so I dont know if that is even going to work. |
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5982
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:12:20 -
[51] - Quote
Here in lies the issue I see. He's giving me advice. I don't know if its bad or good and frankly its advice so I'm taking it. You on the other hand have done nothing but flame and attack him. So far as I can see it you are the problem here not him. [/quote]
I have given you advice. I advised you to join someone who knows how to have fun, amongst other things. If you're actually going to listen to Veers, I won't stop you, but it's little wonder that you've ignored my own advice as a result.
What I'm actually trying to do here also is advise you not to listen to him. See how that's advice? It's good advice, too, just ask anyone else here. I won't hold your hand, ultimately it's up to you, and I'll step off for now, but don't come crying to me if you have a bad day because of some idiot I warned you away from.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
993
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:18:07 -
[52] - Quote
Jhante Vhael wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:OP, perhaps see how you like doing relic sites? It used to be my primary means of income and I can tell you it can be very lucrative. A decent night in lowsec would net me 100-200m isk, a decent night in nullsec can net you 400-700m or so, no joke. My first night doing em in nullsec I made 770M in a few hours. I got quite hooked on it, plus it's one of those jobs where u dont have to constantly be at the KB. Cloak up and go take that dump or make that sammich :D
Shoot me a mail in-game sometime if you wanna check it out and I'll be happy to give you some pointers on it.
I'm only 2 days away from cloak then I'll fit up an astero :P. I did a few high sec relic sites not bad but my skills are subpar right now for exploration. Might be a good way to get money to get into incursions. I don't know not familiar with low/null/wh exploration really. And being alone doing this without any experience might not be a good move
Yeah it takes a little bit of time invested in it to get your skills where you want them, but it's not too bad, and it'll pay for itself quickly and maybe get ya on that road to incursions. That way, once youre in money-making mode with the relics, you can keep riding that train and making money while you get all the better skills for incursions.
Also, relics rly arent worth doing in hisec other than to get you familiar with the minigame, so dont let lousy returns there deter ya from trying it out elsewhere.
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
246
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:18:36 -
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You said that you had some corps interested in recruiting you. Care to share what types of corps they are?
EDIT: Oh jesus, Veers found this thread. Don't listen to him. For any reason. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:18:38 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote:
Right now I can only fly amarr/caldari BS's, and I only have t2 pulse lasers so I dont know if that is even going to work.
Ya, sorry, I just saw your chat there. You are going to want a more robust skill set for incursions. This is a good guide http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Preparing_for_Incursions
Start training those skills....get your BS level to 3. Easiest starter ship is Maelstron/Machariel...so I would get Minmitar BS to 3 ASAP, and Large Projectile Turret to IV. Then you can fit a MJD + 1400 Arty Mael for L4s, or you can run an AC fit with buddies. That will give you enough isk for the basic Maelstrom fit for Warp to Me, and you are golden. If you have any more Qs feel free to convo me in game....I run L4s/incursions all the time, and know how they go.
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5983
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:25:45 -
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Back when I was a newbro in 2012, I ran incursions in a Megathron with Ditanian Fleet, who used to be cool. I had no T2 anything, Gallente Battleship skill trained to level 1, and no ~bleeps~ were given. (strange how the language filter didn't catch that, self-censoring as a result). I didn't lose a thing, I contributed to the fleet, and at the end of the day even got a few corp invites out of it.
Incursion runners these days have the biggest logs shoved up their backsides and they just end up sucking all the fun out of the game as a result. Out of all the elitists in this game, they are by far the worst.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
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Posted - 2014.11.23 23:35:06 -
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If you're really looking to get into incursions, maybe train up to use a shield logistics cruiser. Could be a way to find a group to run with while you skill up for that blingy battleship. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.11.24 01:57:41 -
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AH, I was given a ship for incursions and currently in a incursion community fleet. Not bad experience notthing like I imagined it but good nontheless. I definatly am starting to think null is where I want ot be though. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.11.24 02:00:41 -
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As for what I want in null not sure. I'm not good at pvp, I dont have much experience out in null and whatnot. I would love to find a corp that can guide me properly. For sure to say the least. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
308
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Posted - 2014.11.24 02:45:34 -
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Congrats! If you run incursions a bit you will realize that most of the member base is nullsec alts. Get to know a few people and ask them for advice on joining a nullsec corp. They will be more than happy to hook you up with something appropriate. |
Jhante Vhael
Aegex Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2014.11.24 02:53:44 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Congrats! If you run incursions a bit you will realize that most of the member base is nullsec alts. Get to know a few people and ask them for advice on joining a nullsec corp. They will be more than happy to hook you up with something appropriate.
Cool will inquire thank you :D
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Cyndrogen
Angels Of Life
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Posted - 2014.11.24 03:39:10 -
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Jhante Vhael wrote:So I'm pretty much corpless, dont really konw too many people, very inexperienced with the game. I don't know really what to do. I want to try things in eve but I'm a bit scared to. Incursion people are too... how shall I say critical and particular in what you fly apparently. I don't have any ships that can fly them at th emoment but I think I can afford one. I'm terrified of making mistakes becuase ppl tend to jump on you. I already got into an acquire conversation about my personal legion fit which, I admit isn't fancy or probably practical for most purposes but I use it for my own personal situations. Needless to say I want to enjoy and have fun but I'm at the moment limited in what I can do.
On top of that I want to find a corp, The corp I have now is my own personal corp more like a placeholder to avoid being in NPC corps so I don't get ppl attacking me within the npc corp as I can'ta fford to lose my ships right now. I can't seem to find a corp that I feel would fit me. There are a few that apparently really badly want me but I'm just a bit scared to go ahead and join one. I've already had a bit of a bad experience with a null sov corp and I dont want to put myself into that situation again. And as it stands I'm not really able to do much on my own obvoiusly. I really wish I knew what to do. I was told to look into e-uni corp but I don't meet their standing requirements. I'm at a loss as to what to do right. I dont think I could just join a corp, being that eve is so ruthless unlike all other MMO's. I keep having to play it safe absolutely dreading making a critical mistake. I've made a few of those and lost ships I shouldn't have lost. People tried scamming stuff off me, obviously I know better but You get what I mean. I'm not sure what to do at this point.
About incursion runners, there is a reason fits are recommended and strictly enforced. It's for your protection. People who are poorly fit and poorly skilled die, even people with good skills and the right fits die. Incursions are hard, they are not for casual gamers. You might try to run lower sites like Vanguards or lower, the payout is still decent.
Best bet if you are starting incursions is train for logistics and fly vanguards, get good with that first. Then train up for more expensive fits. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2014.11.24 03:53:40 -
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You'll have to learn what you like to or want to do before you'll be able to choose a corp to fit into. As for incursion fleets .. the incursion missions can be unforgiving hence the anality of fit checking. But if you want to learn the ins and outs of fleet life, incursions are a good start. You have to work to meet the right fleet doctrines to join a fleet whether you fly incursions or not.
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