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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:05:13 -
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Playing with multiple accounts at the same time has a long history within EVE Online, and has always been permitted. There are various ways to do it, and since thereGÇÖs been a lot of discussion surrounding what is and isnGÇÖt allowed, weGÇÖd like to clarify a few terms and exactly how the EULA and our Policies must be interpreted and how some things are shifting.
Over the last few weeks we have gone through an internal review process to clarify what exactly the EULA and ToS require in terms of input automation, input multiplexing and input broadcasting. This is the result of that review process and an outline of how we will interpret things going forward.
Firstly weGÇÖd like to go over a few terms.
Multiboxing
Multiboxing refers to playing as multiple separate characters, simultaneously, across a number of accounts, either by using multiple computers to run the game, or by using a number of instances of EVE on a single computer.
Uses for multiboxing range from scouts in PvP to gang boosting, support and ECM alts, as well as extra characters for hauling, mining and many other applications. Based on our EULA and Policies we would like to clarify that multiboxing is allowed.
Input Automation
Input Automation refers to actions that are commonly also referred to as botting or macroing. This term is used to describe, but is not limited to, the automation of actions which have consequences in the EVE universe.
Input Broadcasting & Input Multiplexing
Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing refer to the multiplication of inputs, actions and events to multiple instances of the game.
Going Forward
As of 15th of March 2013 we have been policing input automation based on a two-strike policy
GÇó1st strike for input automation is a 30 day ban GÇó2nd strike for input automation is a permanent ban
Input Automation remains strictly prohibited, and is policed under our suspension and ban policy.
Based on the discussion in this area and our will to be more clear and concise with the community regarding this part of our rules, we have decided to also apply this two-strike policy to prohibited forms of Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing as of January 1st 2015.
We would like to add, however, that we will not be taking action retroactively and will only be policing this policy as of January 1st, 2015.
Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing of actions with consequences in the EVE universe, are prohibited and will be policed in the same manner as Input Automation.
This includes, but isnGÇÖt limited to:
GÇóActivation and control of ships and modules GÇóNavigation and movement within the EVE universe GÇóMovement of assets and items within the EVE universe GÇóInteraction with other characters
Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:
GÇóEVE Online client settings GÇóWindow positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating systemGÇÖs desktop environment) GÇóThe login process
NOTE: Please keep in mind that using the same password for multiple accounts as well as storing your password in a third party tool or script which helps you to automate the login process can increase the risk of account theft and hacking drastically. It is strongly recommended that you do not engage in this type of activity.
We are closely monitoring all game events for suspicious activity suggesting illicit behaviors, including Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing.
We would like to clarify that it does not matter how Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are being done, whether through use of software or modified hardware. Our only concern is regarding how it is being used in the EVE universe.
If you are uncertain about your Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing use-case, please get in contact with us, as we would prefer to work with members of the community to come to an amicable resolution. We will also follow up this statement with further clarifications if needed, based on questions and concerns from the community.
TL:DR :
Starting from 01.01.2015 the use of Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing is limited to activities which do not impact the Eve universe. For more details please refer to the entirety of this announcement.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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Ama Scelesta
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:10:06 -
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RIP ISBoxer? |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1295
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:13:21 -
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Ban all russians! |
Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
119
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:15:22 -
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Christmas is early this year it seems! |
Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:15:59 -
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Interesting. Given that this is a new policy and one that might be hard to communicate to players at large, are you going to go soft with people the first few months and give them written warnings before you adopt your other policy? |
Fonac
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:16:36 -
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So is-boxer is banned?
edit: I Honestly dont care about is-boxer or what it can do, since i've never used it, or met anyone who uses it. But the OP is not very clear on it. |
Darkblad
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:16:55 -
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I wonder if wonders really happen.
Seems like they do. Wonderful!
In hiatus, indefinitely
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:17:04 -
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Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer?
ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not.
@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters
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Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's Wormhole Clown Car
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:17:51 -
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Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer?
for the most part? |
Zara Arran
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:18:00 -
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+1 |
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Ama Scelesta
130
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:18:12 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not.
PS. I was there. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4256
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:20:10 -
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Fonac wrote:So is-boxer is banned?
edit: I Honestly dont care about is-boxer or what it can do, since i've never used it, or met anyone who uses it. But the OP is not very clear on it.
isboxer isn't banned. Some of the things isboxer can do are banned.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's Wormhole Clown Car
35
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:20:14 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not.
So how do you plan on detecting this behavior vs. a player clicking really fast across multiple screens? |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:20:48 -
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Tears incoming |
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:21:19 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not.
How will you differentiate between legal and illegal use of ISBoxer under these rules? |
Corey Lean
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:21:23 -
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This is a good change and can only lead to a healthier game. Much courage, much respect |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
1048
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:21:24 -
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Glad to see some positions finally being taken in this matter. Indecision in this matter was always way more damning than the actual resolution, in my opinion. My respect goes to CCP Falcon and any other individuals involved in taking a position here.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Capri Sun KraftFoods
The Suicide Kings Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:21:39 -
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As someone who actually ISBox's bombers I'm a little upset.
The problem isn't ISBoxer. The problem is that bombs as they currently stand are completely broken Sure isboxer exacerbates the problem significantly, but you can still get 30 dudes into a fleet easily and go kill anything with 4 waves that isn't a T3 or a faction battleship. I'd be happy to see my bomber accounts become useless and de-sub them if it meant I didn't have to worry about getting hell bombed every other fleet. |
Capqu
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
850
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:21:41 -
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:21:46 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not.
Your response is a bit like "Well, bumping Titans is kind of not allowed in some circumstances". Being a bit more specific on this topic would probably be appreciated. |
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Tineoidea Asanari
Heeresversuchsanstalt The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:22:05 -
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CCP Falcon - I love you (and CCP)
Thanks for drawing a sharp line where we know what is allowed and what is not. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5525
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:22:21 -
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Interesting....
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Capqu
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
850
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:22:46 -
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Capri Sun KraftFoods wrote:As someone who actually ISBox's bombers I'm a little upset.
The problem isn't ISBoxer. The problem is that bombs as they currently stand are completely broken Sure isboxer exacerbates the problem significantly, but you can still get 30 dudes into a fleet easily and go kill anything with 4 waves that isn't a T3 or a faction battleship. I'd be happy to see my bomber accounts become useless and de-sub them if it meant I didn't have to worry about getting hell bombed every other fleet.
LOL
ISBABBY TEARS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:23:04 -
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RIP those 20 accounts, mining sucks anyways. |
DragonHelm III
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:23:09 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. For god's sake CCP stop all the bluster and give a straight answer
ISBOXER banned or not? It just needs a yes or no
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Citricioni
Stille Gewalt Dead Terrorists
173
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:23:12 -
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@ISBoxers thats a CCP Falcon punch in your face :'D
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Shaqil
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:23:29 -
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Arronicus wrote:Ban all russians!
Pain of the Russian's pet. |
El Space Mariachi
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
172
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:23:32 -
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thank god
thank you falcon
eve is saved
gay gamers for jesus
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Citricioni
Stille Gewalt Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:24:15 -
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DragonHelm III wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. For god's sake CCP stop all the bluster and give a straight answer ISBOXER banned or not? It just needs a yes or no
if you use the login feature or fps feature or features like that no
if you use the broadcast funcion to navigate, activate modules or something like that yes
its easy...
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Abe Atlas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:24:20 -
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Vladimir Putin will hear of this. |
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