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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5536
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:29:49 -
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Taram Caldar wrote:War Kitten wrote:Mierin Arthie wrote:How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch That doesn't broadcast, it just changes where input goes - it should be fine. Wrong it broadcasts a single command to multiple systems Still applies. Seriously people.... reading comprehension
No, that's not what a KVM switch does. It is a switch that allows you to select which system to send input to. It's 1:1.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7278
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:29:55 -
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baltec1 wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. That can only happen when they remove local.
Stahp, stahp....
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine Yulai Federation
178
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:31:16 -
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KVMs
A KVM is typically used to broadcast keyboard and mouse to one computer out of many at a time. It's real strength lies in being able to select WHICH computer out of many without lots of plugging and unplugging cables. e.g. manage many servers in a datacentre from one keyboard mouse and monitor.
If you use a KVM in this way to mange many eve client but only manage one at any time you're fine. If you use some form of modified KVM to broadcast many eve clients at the same/simultaneously time then this is not allowed under the news rules.
The rule of thumb is does an action, e.g. a click or keypress affect more than one instance of the eve client at the same time? If yes then disallowed.
This only applies to in game actions that affect the eve universe. Cient side non universe affecting things are mostly fine. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6839
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:31:42 -
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It seems PLEX have dropped by 50m since this thread went up.
I can't complain about that.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Master Apollyon
BLACK REGIMENT
3
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:32:29 -
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Finally!
No more farm accounts. |
Systimus
Nightweave Operations Revenant Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:32:50 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Systimus wrote:I use isboxer to mine with 4 accounts. Never have pvp'd with it. I don't use constantly but might use it to activate auto pilot or to dock. If I'm reading this correctly, this action with be banned . So no point in having 4 accounts so might as well cancel 3 of them.
Elite dangerous is out soon. Maybe cancel all 4 and have a go at that instead. If you never used it to do anything other than auto pilot or dock, why would this bother you at all? You should probably get your story straight. Personally I don't care one way or the other, but there are a few good points to all this. 1: Restrictions on bomber use don't have to be as severe. 2: More people will be able to make their living mining. 3: Wealth is better distributed across the general population of miners. 4: PLEX prices will drop quickly, which will be welcome news to many. To explain the latter, your average ISBoxer miner pays for all of his accounts with PLEX purchased off the market with ISK. His tolerance for higher PLEX prices is MUCH higher than the average EVE player due to his extremely high income stream per account he is funding. In other words, the large number of "high rollers" providing a steady market for over priced PLEX will be sharply and suddenly curtailed. Which I never had a problem with ISBoxer being in game, even I have to admit this helps to solve a lot of problems.
Ranger, I find you really offensive. My story straight ?
I think ccp need to clarify what they intend to ban. Any action that affects the universe ...... If using auto pilot or docking is specifically excempt then please ccp clarify. Also, I have never plexd any account and pay for all 4 every month with real money. I don't do pvp on any of my accounts and I find mining relaxing. I feel mining with 1 account a little boring but mining with 4 much more enjoyable. Do I gave an advantage over someone playing with a single account maybe. But if they wanted to pay for 4 accounts they could have that advantage too.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1597
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:32:57 -
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So...the guy the mittani told to kill himself, may now actually kill himself?
F
Would you like to know more?
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:32:57 -
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Systimus wrote:I use isboxer to mine with 4 accounts. Never have pvp'd with it. I don't use constantly but might use it to activate auto pilot or to dock. If I'm reading this correctly, this action with be banned . So no point in having 4 accounts so might as well cancel 3 of them.
Elite dangerous is out soon. Maybe cancel all 4 and have a go at that instead.
Bye :) |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:33:08 -
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Sentamon wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. Yup nerf all things that threaten the rich boy club of nullsec.
(As if we don't actively have the largest base of afk cloaking alts in the game, because we can afford the accounts) |
virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine Yulai Federation
178
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:33:10 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:It seems PLEX have dropped by 50m since this thread went up. I can't complain about that. Mr Epeen
Tritanium is going to go higher than PLEX at the current rate of change :) |
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RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
15963
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:33:34 -
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Querns wrote:This will probably never happen. This game is pretty much impossible to play on any meaningful level without multiboxing. I guess that depends on what you mean by "meaningful level". Devoid of any useful definition of that phrase, this statement is utter crap.
So, you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.
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Prisoner11213
iMmortal Wings Most Valuable Player
2
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:34:25 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:It seems PLEX have dropped by 50m since this thread went up. I can't complain about that. Mr Epeen
Let them fall LET THEM FALL AND BE BURN AWAY.
Got my money rdy to buy some when they are rising again cant wait !! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:35:03 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So...the guy the mittani told to kill himself, may now actually kill himself?
F
is this real life? |
RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
15977
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:35:13 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. Sure, that's logical, since an AFK cloaked pilot has absolutely no way to interact with the game at all... perfect sense there...
So, you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17936
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:35:26 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking.
But how will CCP fix people's runaway imaginations?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine Yulai Federation
181
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:35:35 -
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If all the bot accounts stopped playing all at the same time, would anyone notice? If only the bot players are sad, and they aren't even playing Eve, then who is left to be sad for them? Maybe someone could write a bot to be sad for the other bots? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7280
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:35:50 -
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isBoxer fleet character sales are coming out now.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
161
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:36:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So...the guy the mittani told to kill himself, may now actually kill himself?
F
Not empty quoting. |
embrel
BamBam Inc. Outlanders United
204
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:36:04 -
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Partricia Solette wrote:meh i think this is a bad call by ccp people are going to unsub accounts and stuff even if they just plex there account those plexes are still payed by some1.
prices of modules and ships are going to go up and everything
You see any reason this someone would not buy a Plex now?
Re: other prices guess so too, unless the boxers created a large demand there too. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Forged of Fire
640
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:36:34 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking.
The next logical step is for CCP to implement a better way to employ multiple accounts within Eve. Not saying that would be a good thing or bad thing, just saying I could see it being a new feature down the road.
In the meanwhile, I won't be unsubscribing my six accounts. You just won't see all three of them wave like this in local:
Char1: o/ Char2: o/ Char3: o/
Alt-tabbing, along with normal fleet functions such as squad warp, works very well for mining or ratting.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
1999
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:36:44 -
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Damn, lot of folks pitching in on this and more even as I write.
ISBoxer is not banned, what it sometimes does IS. This has the benefit of if you make a new program called ASSBoxer that does the same as ISBoxer you have not found a way around the bans. If you use chopsticks and rubberbands to duplicate you have not found a way around. It is not the tool it is the application of it that is at issue.
I think this is a good move. It may cost a few short term, losses but I think a lot of players will appreciate the chance to be on even footing or forced to be with other players to do a group activity (one of the M's in mMo)
and I know I forgot to ask earlier . . . but yeah, I am helping out the FLOOD of new players coming into the game and so if you want to hand over the assets of a multibox mining fleet I will see that they get a good home and USED by individual players.
which is what I like
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
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Laughable Xhosa Girl
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:37:41 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So...the guy the mittani told to kill himself, may now actually kill himself?
F
Beware the long play |
Kagehisa Shintaro
We Make Weapons
8
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:37:46 -
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Taram Caldar wrote:War Kitten wrote:Mierin Arthie wrote:How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch That doesn't broadcast, it just changes where input goes - it should be fine. Wrong it broadcasts a single command to multiple systems Still applies. Seriously people.... reading comprehension
KVM sends signals to one computer at a time. You then tell it to switch to another computer and send the command, infact it would make multiboxing slower. KVM does NOT automate actions.
Dazamin wrote: CCP Falcon, mind explaining why the punishments for something that has previously been allowed in game are more severe then they have ever been for actual botting? Up until this point completely automated botting had a three strike policy, why is someone playing the game using input broadcasting considered worse?
Also are you intending to devote more resources to catching people using various forms of automation? Since it is already a large problem before you add more bannable offences.
Botters have been on two-strike system for some time now. |
Ginger Barbarella
2040
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:38:30 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking.
0/10
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
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Utari Onzo
united system's commonwealth
38
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:39:26 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote: no i only do it for 1 account i cant pvp with more then 1 lol u would have to be some kind of god to do any combat with more than 1
I tend to fly in pvp with 1 logi alt and 1 dps/ecm ship. I have the two clients in windowed mode, shrunk so they both fit in my monitor. It works in that I can generally use both characters pretty well, but I am a human and it has bit me in the ass more then once playing the game like this. I would link you my carrier lossmail while dualboxing triage/devoter and logging a proteus alt in, but I can't. Here's a blog post about it instead http://smug-bastard.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/neither-borrower-nor-lender-be.html
Dual/Multiboxing without broadcast fuctions is a PITA but it's still a massive force multiplier when you ahve limited 'real' pilots |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17936
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:39:29 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:and I know I forgot to ask earlier . . . but yeah, I am helping out the FLOOD of new players coming into the game and so if you want to hand over the assets of a multibox mining fleet I will see that they get a good home and USED by individual players.
Your CSM tag does not exempt you from the fact that you know damn well that I have perma-dibs on people's stuff.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1415
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:40:13 -
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RIP Code and Miniluv gankers
DISCLAIMER : All of the above replies are not meant as any form of harassment. It's all SciFi.
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Utari Onzo
united system's commonwealth
38
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:40:48 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Damn, lot of folks pitching in on this and more even as I write.
ISBoxer is not banned, what it sometimes does IS. This has the benefit of if you make a new program called ASSBoxer that does the same as ISBoxer you have not found a way around the bans. If you use chopsticks and rubberbands to duplicate you have not found a way around. It is not the tool it is the application of it that is at issue.
I think this is a good move. It may cost a few short term, losses but I think a lot of players will appreciate the chance to be on even footing or forced to be with other players to do a group activity (one of the M's in mMo)
and I know I forgot to ask earlier . . . but yeah, I am helping out the FLOOD of new players coming into the game and so if you want to hand over the assets of a multibox mining fleet I will see that they get a good home and USED by individual players.
which is what I like
m
Can't like this post enough. |
Charley Talleyrand
Project Kairos Dei-Telum
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:41:16 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:Interesting. Given that this is a new policy and one that might be hard to communicate to players at large, are you going to go soft with people the first few months and give them written warnings before you adopt your other policy?
lol. It's a month away. Anyone stupid enough to be doing this now deserves a ban- much less leniency in 2015. They should skip the 30-day suspension and just perma ban. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
45
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:41:21 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote: no i only do it for 1 account i cant pvp with more then 1 lol u would have to be some kind of god to do any combat with more than 1
I tend to fly in pvp with 1 logi alt and 1 dps/ecm ship. I have the two clients in windowed mode, shrunk so they both fit in my monitor. It works in that I can generally use both characters pretty well, but I am a human and it has bit me in the ass more then once playing the game like this. I would link you my carrier lossmail while dualboxing triage/devoter and logging a proteus alt in, but I can't. Here's a blog post about it instead http://smug-bastard.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/neither-borrower-nor-lender-be.html Dual/Multiboxing without broadcast fuctions is a PITA but it's still a massive force multiplier when you ahve limited 'real' pilots i can barly stand my own using just 1 account :P
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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