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GIZMOdk
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:49:49 -
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About time! Thanks a lot CCP! A increasing trend towards using cetain tools to multibox has made me unsure of whenever I wanted to keep playing this game or not. No more 1 man armies of death \o/ |
Gavin Nordoff
Drunken Union of Monkeys Northern Associates.
5
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:49:50 -
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Stop making me like these cahnges ccp. |
embrel
BamBam Inc. Outlanders United
206
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:50:45 -
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Komi Toran wrote:Curse you, CCP! Now what am I to use to scapegoat all my problems!?
Grrr goons? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6033
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:51:14 -
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Quote:Yes and No. What CCP should have done was ban it entirely. You forget that most use DX nothing and not multi. DX nothing takes more prep work but once you have it set right it runs circles around multi.
So, maybe some do but on the high side most don't. Plain and simple which is why I said it to begin with. Hop on over there and take a look un the eve side. Will tell you exactly how much DX nothing is used over the multi.
The point is that is exactly why they are banning the behavior they want to eliminate, not the software. Nobody really cares if you have to individually click on each account to make an action, that still takes time and mental coordination. People do mind when it's "one click to rule them all".
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5571
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:52:00 -
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Cyrus Doul wrote:Mumm. more like pay to efficently use the UI. If i could have a little loadout window that had like 3 buttons that said
Cap Shoot Turtle
without having to dig all five accounts deep into the fittings pages
- Open fitting window
- Click "Browse"
- Shift+Drag saved fittings window to existing pile of chat windows
Perhaps add a "little things" post asking for saved fittings to be faster to apply (e.g.: drag to hangar or double-click or right-click->apply).
Day 0 Advice for New Players
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Bakuhz
Ebon Cartel Ebon Pestilence
166
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:52:04 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. Sure, that's logical, since an AFK cloaked pilot has absolutely no way to interact with the game at all... perfect sense there... CCP is directly nerfing the force projection that one player can have affect on others in Eve. What do you think afk cloaking is?
one player one account stop crying about AFK cloaking and learn to deal with it!! If you have not found a way by now to counter such things maybe farmville is your thing? any case blizzard might listen to tears of this magnitude!
https://zkillboard.com/character/584042527/
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Porucznik Borewicz
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:53:05 -
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Hahahahaha! Rekt! Good luck selling all those fine named characters. |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1297
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:54:21 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Artemis Dalvik wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:So, does this mean no more Mac support? wtf does this have to do with mac support? I use MAC and have no idea what this could possibly do to my gameplay I have one word for you - Applescript
Nerfing your ability to use a system's scripting platform to broadcast input to multiple clients is not anywhere near close to nerfing the users of that platform across the board.
I'm a Mac user, and to be perfectly honest it would never have occurred to me to control EVE clients through AppleScript--though, granted, that's because I usually control one, and at most two, accounts at once on a single monitor, and those two accounts are usually doing distinctly different things.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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Mike Vandenberg
Time Lord Academy Vanguard of the Phoenix
25
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:54:50 -
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This disappoints me. I don't use ISBoxer but don't have a problem with people who use it to multibox. I know CCP Falcon is stating that multiboxing isn't banned....but inhertited with multi-boxing is keyboard multiplexing either through software or hardware and this has always been ok. I think this is a little overkill. I think it hurts everyone. I can appreciate banning macros but banning people who are sitting in front of the computer, running multiple accounts, using the keyboard or mouse to control the accounts, what a disappointment.
Next you're going to want to ban multiple accounts, or ip bans, or other equaly stupid moves. As a person who pays for my multiple accounts with cash, I give two thumbs down on this decision. |
Apo Lamperouge
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:55:46 -
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Boxer ban
Tears, delicious, nutritious and a great source of daily fibre.
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
1135
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:55:47 -
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Mike Vandenberg wrote:This disappoints me. I don't use ISBoxer but don't have a problem with people who use it to multibox. I know CCP Falcon is stating that multiboxing isn't banned....but inhertited with multi-boxing is keyboard multiplexing either through software or hardware and this has always been ok. I think this is a little overkill. I think it hurts everyone. I can appreciate banning macros but banning people who are sitting in front of the computer, running multiple accounts, using the keyboard or mouse to control the accounts, what a disappointment.
Next you're going to want to ban multiple accounts, or ip bans, or other equaly stupid moves. As a person who pays for my multiple accounts with cash, I give two thumbs down on this decision. It doesn't hurt me. I have never used input multiplexing to multibox in Eve.
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RudinV
Hard Knocks Inc.
457
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:56:46 -
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prior ISboxers nerf CCP should remove botters from nullsecs |
Apo Lamperouge
33
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:56:53 -
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Mike Vandenberg wrote:This disappoints me. I don't use ISBoxer but don't have a problem with people who use it to multibox. I know CCP Falcon is stating that multiboxing isn't banned....but inhertited with multi-boxing is keyboard multiplexing either through software or hardware and this has always been ok. I think this is a little overkill. I think it hurts everyone. I can appreciate banning macros but banning people who are sitting in front of the computer, running multiple accounts, using the keyboard or mouse to control the accounts, what a disappointment.
Next you're going to want to ban multiple accounts, or ip bans, or other equaly stupid moves. As a person who pays for my multiple accounts with cash, I give two thumbs down on this decision.
Doesn't hurt me.
One. Single. Bit.
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6033
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:57:00 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:Systimus wrote:You aren't making much sense my friend. Multiple accounts are still fine. Using ISBoxer to control them all with simultaneously is not fine. Are you seriously asking us to believe that if the program you use to "auto pilot or dock" your 4 accounts with is taken away things will become to complicated for you and you'll need to cancel accounts? REALLY? The opening post stated the following; 'Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing of actions with consequences in the EVE universe, are prohibited and will be policed in the same manner as Input Automation. This includes, but isnGÇÖt limited to: GÇó Activation and control of ships and modules GÇó Navigation and movement within the EVE universe GÇó Movement of assets and items within the EVE universe GÇó Interaction with other characters' This rules out more or less any use of ISBOXER to activate an autopilot button, or to dock my 4 accounts simultaneously. As I have stated previously, I don't pvp and have 4 accounts all of which I pay real money for each month. I don't consider myself to have an unfair advantage as I am paying for all 4 accounts. If anyone else wants to pay for more than 4 accounts they would have an advantage over me. good luck to them. Maybe get rid of plex's and stop macro miners self funding their players if that what the problem is. I don't agree with macro mining and look dimly on those that do. I don't and have never plex'd any of my accounts - I pay real money each month for all 4 accounts. One account I have had for nearly 10 years. A second account, 9.5 years. I enjoy mining as I find it relaxing but mining with one account is boring but I find it much more enjoyable with 4. I don't make huge use of multi-broadcasting but I might use it to dock or maybe activate the autopilot which I consider to be trivial but would carry the same penalty as someone caught multi-broadcasting to 80 accounts. I find ISBOXER convenient to use but I may find myself at the wrong end of CCP action should I accidently use a function I shouldn't. And yes, if I find myself subject to a 30 day ban that I felt unjust, I will be looking elsewhere for an online game to play.
Quote:You are overreacting.
In a nutshell for isboxers this does two things that i can think of:
1. It bans the use of the broadcast all feature. 2. It bans the use of clickbars that send commands to multiple characters. Precisely, it's pretty simple. I have a hard time believing that he can't get it through his head not to use broadcast all for ANYTHING.... or to take seriously his claim he would quit if he can't broadcast auto pilot or dock.
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ISD Ezwal
isd community communications liaisons
2781
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:57:10 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Note: I am not yet done with this entire thread, so more rule breaking posts might get found and subsequently get edited or removed. If that is the case, I will update this post accordingly. This way this thread can stay open while I moderate it.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Utari Onzo
united system's commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:57:28 -
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Mike Vandenberg wrote:This disappoints me. I don't use ISBoxer but don't have a problem with people who use it to multibox. I know CCP Falcon is stating that multiboxing isn't banned....but inhertited with multi-boxing is keyboard multiplexing either through software or hardware and this has always been ok. I think this is a little overkill. I think it hurts everyone. I can appreciate banning macros but banning people who are sitting in front of the computer, running multiple accounts, using the keyboard or mouse to control the accounts, what a disappointment.
Next you're going to want to ban multiple accounts, or ip bans, or other equaly stupid moves. As a person who pays for my multiple accounts with cash, I give two thumbs down on this decision.
I multibox all the time and don't use broadcasting software. This change doesn't hurt me in the slightest |
Angry Ganker
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:57:43 -
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Apo Lamperouge wrote:Boxer banTears, delicious, nutritious and a great source of daily fibre.
And more ISK for GoonTards and their CODE puppies :-)
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Valterra Craven
385
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:58:34 -
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Mike Vandenberg wrote:This disappoints me. I don't use ISBoxer but don't have a problem with people who use it to multibox. I know CCP Falcon is stating that multiboxing isn't banned....but inhertited with multi-boxing is keyboard multiplexing either through software or hardware and this has always been ok. I think this is a little overkill. I think it hurts everyone. I can appreciate banning macros but banning people who are sitting in front of the computer, running multiple accounts, using the keyboard or mouse to control the accounts, what a disappointment.
Next you're going to want to ban multiple accounts, or ip bans, or other equaly stupid moves. As a person who pays for my multiple accounts with cash, I give two thumbs down on this decision.
I don't think it bans macros since macros can be used to do things on one account and I believe the rules are structured in a way that it only matters when a macro sends commands to more than one client. |
David-8
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:58:43 -
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Good riddance ISBOX scum |
Apo Lamperouge
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:58:47 -
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Porucznik Borewicz wrote:Hahahahaha! Rekt! Good luck selling all those fine named characters.
1 isk each, buying, seller pays all CCP costs etc etc etc
I'll put em to good cloaky use somewhere
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
337
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:59:41 -
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Angry Ganker wrote:Apo Lamperouge wrote:Boxer banTears, delicious, nutritious and a great source of daily fibre. And more ISK for GoonTards and their CODE puppies :-)
The tinfoil is strong with this one.
A bitter vet trying to start anew.
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Apo Lamperouge
33
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:00:37 -
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Angry Ganker wrote:Apo Lamperouge wrote:Boxer banTears, delicious, nutritious and a great source of daily fibre. And more ISK for GoonTards and their CODE puppies :-)
Maybe, but grrrrgooons.
Did anyone do that yet?
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Aequitae
Swamphole Inc. WormHole Occupation and Resource Exploitation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:01:50 -
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As a small time multiboxer using 2-3 pilots at most, I am not happy with the changes. I feel it takes away something from the game that I like to do on a small scale, because it's the only way I feel I can achieve some things in say lowsec without a bloody link-alt.
For me, this is a reason to reconsider paying my 9 accounts with actual cash. (No I don't multibox to plex) |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
524
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:03:27 -
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of illegal multibox miners suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I am confident something awesome has happened.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Apo Lamperouge
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:03:35 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post. The Rules:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.Note: I am not yet done with this entire thread, so more rule breaking posts might get found and subsequently get edited or removed. If that is the case, I will update this post accordingly. This way this thread can stay open while I moderate it.
awww come on... want to see whos trolling....wait... it wasn't me was it?
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Lady Zarrina
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:04:03 -
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I like it, I like it a lot.
EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4381
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:04:20 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:If you are uncertain about your Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing use-case, please get in contact with us, as we would prefer to work with members of the community to come to an amicable resolution. What category should we petition under?
As I previously posted, I'm uncertain what "Input Broadcasting" and "Input Multiplexing" mean; are they the same thing?
I can't find any useful answer via Google either. |
Apo Lamperouge
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:04:22 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of illegal multibox miners suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I am confident something awesome has happened.
I've got a bad feeling about this.
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Paranoid Loyd
2800
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:04:50 -
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Aequitae wrote:As a small time multiboxer using 2-3 pilots at most, I am not happy with the changes. I feel it takes away something from the game that I like to do on a small scale, because it's the only way I feel I can achieve some things in say lowsec without a bloody link-alt.
For me, this is a reason to reconsider paying my 9 accounts with actual cash. (No I don't multibox to plex) Lrn2Read
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1712
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:05:35 -
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Valterra Craven wrote: I don't think it bans macros since macros can be used to do things on one account and I believe the rules are structured in a way that it only matters when a macro sends commands to more than one client.
Macro's are already banned as botting and have been since EVE started I believe. Catching simple short macro's is obviously a fairly hard job for CCP to do, but it doesn't change it being banned already. |
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