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Artemis Dalvik
Arxersize Industries
4
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:58:43 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:So, does this mean no more Mac support?
wtf does this have to do with mac support? |
CameronCZ
Id Est The Volition Cult
4
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:59:07 -
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Wow, totally agree, nice work!
Im only wondering about this:
Quote:Just to be clear, are we still allowed to bind all our hardeners to the same key?
Like in example, press Key1 to activate all Hardeners on only one account. Prohibited or ok?
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Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace Unsettled.
150
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:59:13 -
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Thank you CCP! This was long overdue. |
Thalen Draganos
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:59:33 -
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Not ISBoxer, just one of it's functions. CCP just added a ton of effort to multiboxers. That's all. |
Sarah Shadow
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
3
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:01 -
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So 35 days notice on a feature that pretty seriously affects our decision to keep multiple accounts subbed.,..
That's a load of bullshit by itself.
The other load is the question of why activities couldn't be segregated based on their impact to others. |
Otto Erich Stollmmler
Deutsche EvE Lehranstalt
13
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:04 -
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Vielen Dank CCP Falcon und das ganze Team!
Es geschehen noch Zeichen und Wunder!
MfG Otto E. Stollmmler |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
1575
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:16 -
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Kant Boards wrote:Kubiq wrote:Kant Boards wrote:CCP making bold and courageous and much needed changes. Whats next!? An end to AFK cloaking?! Cloaking creates content (victims form defense fleets) isboxer does not Well yeah but if they did something entirely reasonable like booting you from the server after 15-20 minutes of not interacting with the client like most games do it would end afk cloaking and Jita would never be capped out. DARE TO BELIEVE
jita cap has nothing to do with the inactive players. it's only there to limit gatejumps and undocking/docking. That's where the load comes from
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
353
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:16 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote: No, but the fact I am running Mac OSX and it provides these functions, how would the distinguish between legal and illegal actions. I run 6 monitors and typically have 12-25 clients running, i can see every client on the screens simultaneously, so clicking from screen to screen and pressing keyboard buttons happens super fast and I can broadcast to multiple clients or a single client, but clicking from one to the other is instant.
The default would be ban first and sort it out later. I dont' have that kind of time, it took me 5 months to get a simple reimbursement thru the CCP bureaucracy, i can't imagine how many years a petition here would take.
Just thinking outloud, I could make a script to cycle the windows and do the commands a window at a time, them I am not broadcasting to multiple clients - this may work after all
you are running eve on a turing-complete computer, just like the rest of us
a turing-complete computer can bot
ergo, you probably would already have been banned under this theory that if you use a computer that can violate the rules you will be banned
also, your planned countermeasure IS botting |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
1064
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:19 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:No, but the fact I am running Mac OSX and it provides these functions, how would the distinguish between legal and illegal actions. I run 6 monitors and typically have 12-25 clients running, i can see every client on the screens simultaneously, so clicking from screen to screen and pressing keyboard buttons happens super fast and I can broadcast to multiple clients or a single client, but clicking from one to the other is instant.
The default would be ban first and sort it out later. I dont' have that kind of time, it took me 5 months to get a simple reimbursement thru the CCP bureaucracy, i can't imagine how many years a petition here would take.
Just thinking outloud, I could make a script to cycle the windows and do the commands a window at a time, them I am not broadcasting to multiple clients - this may work after all
The bold part is the part you should probably cease.
If you're worried about it, don't do it. Simple.
You've got a month and change to start practicing.
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Radkiel
Everlasting Vendetta.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:26 -
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Kaaeliaa wrote:Gina Taroen wrote:lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D Who gives a ****? They're the kind of people EVE doesn't want because they **** things up for everyone else. CCP, congratulations on having the stones to put your foot down and tell these idiots to GTFO. Maybe we can finally have nice things again.
How did I mess things for you? I've seen people cry about multi-boxing for years and I've never understood why.
FU, Radkiel |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5705
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:37 -
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Imagine if you will a setting whereby there is not enforcement or a lack of regulation about the age of consent to have sex.
Believe it or not, it was like that back in the 1980s. It was quite common for say a 16 yo to date a 14 yo, or an 18 with 15 year old. Nobody really cared as long as the two were teenagers and the "maturity level of the individual" was taken into account.
You know, that whole "she won't date me I'm just a Freshman" clich+¬ from all those dumb films in the 80s.
Now imagine if, lacking regs or enforcement, you have men in their 20s and up dating 12 year old girls. It becomes a bit too much, a bit "in your face" and most of all, a little difficult to pretend it's still OK.
So, there was no problem with the multi box thing, all "within the rules" and an area where while it appeared illegal it was not.....
and then, like the 30 year old dating the 12 year old, suddenly you have entire fleets gratuitously hoovering up entire belts, each pilot not even having a real name, all in the safety of highsec.
If there is one mistake that CCP tends to make, it's the underestimation of the Min-Max player. If there is one little tiny atom-sized little teensy iota of a chance that something will be taken all the way in one direction as the mechanics allow it, then it WILL. If there is a "possibility" of something, anything, and that possibility leads to more ISK or more stats, then that possibility by itself becomes the reality. Thera for example, if the stations can be death bubbled by dictors, it WILL and by people who have all the time in the world for it.
So, while the multibox fleet may be OK per the rules and all that, we have seen the min max sperglords take that all the way to the absurd.
And absurd, even if in the rules, eventually starts to look bad. People get to wondering "what kind of people am I dealing with here?" and nobody is really having a good time when hit with crazy vibes.
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Red Rose
Thundercats The Initiative.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:48 -
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First nerf since Falcon range / strengh nerf back in 2009 which does not f*** me over I approve this product - make it real! |
white male privilege
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
93
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:00:49 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:Jesus, can you be any more vague Falcon? Its not vague at all? You can use isboxer to manage your clients but you can't use it to replicate commands. What is vague about that? |
Makhpella
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:01:20 -
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Hi CPP if I warp squad do I get banned? |
big miker
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
237
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:01:36 -
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CCP is going places!
Finaly real skill and teamwork is needed again instead of boxing 10+ accounts. Goodbye ISboxers, happy to see you leaving o/
-A very glad Miker
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
223
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:01:43 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:
GÇóEVE Online client settings GÇóWindow positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating systemGÇÖs desktop environment) GÇóThe login process [/i]
Emphasis added.
I'm confused by why this would be something you would ever have to expressly say you're not trying to control, unless you're simultaneously of the opinion that you could.
Is CCP actually claiming they have the right to police where I put my client window on my desktop?
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2244
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:01:49 -
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Goodbye, ISBoxer. We won't miss you.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Forged of Fire
639
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:01:49 -
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I Alt-tabbed for years to run multiple accounts, so that's not a very big loss. The only question in my mind is whether the windows management aspect of ISBoxer is worth the money.
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Laughable Xhosa Girl
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:02:45 -
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Let me tell you how I, the downtrodden, every day Joe Eve Player With 25 Accounts is harmed by this. |
Angela Daemonic
Jaded. The Natural Order
4
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:02:52 -
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There will be tears from a few, but joy from the many. Eve has needed this for a while and I am excited for the future. |
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Maxxor Brutor
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
52
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:03:04 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:
is there some dark gateway that requires precise coordinated action from several eve clients at once to unlock the portal to mac compatibility that must be opened every day
Yeah mac users need isboxer because they only have one mouse button :( |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
800
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:03:11 -
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thank you, CCP, finally. |
Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
135
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:03:21 -
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Get rekt love squad h4ck3rs
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
353
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:03:28 -
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Arrendis wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:
GÇóEVE Online client settings GÇóWindow positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating systemGÇÖs desktop environment) GÇóThe login process [/i] Emphasis added. I'm confused by why this would be something you would ever have to expressly say you're not trying to control, unless you're simultaneously of the opinion that you could. Is CCP actually claiming they have the right to police where I put my client window on my desktop? i know why you'd say something like that: because dumb people will make the above dumb post if you don't, just with some words changed around
but for not-dumb people this is clearer |
Zishy Linaris
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:03:36 -
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goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens |
Act-Mack PVT
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:03:46 -
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So Fozzie, Is CCP adverse from making money? The way its going it looks like your trying to get rid of your current fan base and replace it with a new one. The only problem is that your current fanbase has multiple accounts and pays for them (if an account buys a plex CCP still technically has made 15-20 usd/euro) compared to newbros with one or two accounts. Its ok really, lowsec is dying because of phoebe, the only contested regions are placid and black rise (OE/TISHU, Snuff and Shadow cartel) Null sec is in flames as usual but who cares. |
Prince Amygdala
The Dutch East India Company Fidelas Constans
6
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:04:15 -
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This is, without any doubt, the best thing I have ever seen CCP do to improve this game. Well done. Seriously. It was getting old seeing people pay to win by strapping smart bombers together and calling them independent accounts/characters.
Thank you. |
Prince Amygdala
The Dutch East India Company Fidelas Constans
6
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:05:34 -
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Zishy Linaris wrote:goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens
Good riddance. |
Angry Arnst
W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M
1
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:05:59 -
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All have do now is get rid of the awoxers who too lazy play game can only ruin it for others |
Romana Erebus
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
19
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:06:03 -
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I think prescriptions for psyche meds just tripled
big miker wrote:CCP is going places! Finaly real skill and teamwork is needed again instead of boxing 10+ accounts. Goodbye ISboxers, happy to see you leaving o/ > A very glad Miker
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