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DaReaper
Net 7
1371
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:56:22 -
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Soldarius wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Somewhere in Jita.. people are jumping out of windows due to their PLEX based life saving being lost. And this is why stations don't have windows. Just imagine the clouds of frozen business suits floating around stations if they had. Someone should drop corpses all around the station. #BlackTuesday
that would be funny
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Vito Tattaglia
Shinigami Miners Spaceship Samurai
227
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Posted - 2014.11.27 01:46:35 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Cashed out my plexes. Merci for 12.5 GORILLION!
A gorillion dollars you say? |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
943
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Posted - 2014.11.27 02:04:37 -
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Cashed out my PLEX. Thank you for all-the-money-in-the-game-zillion ISK!
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3779
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Posted - 2014.11.27 02:54:34 -
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Soldarius wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Somewhere in Jita.. people are jumping out of windows due to their PLEX based life saving being lost. And this is why stations don't have windows. Just imagine the clouds of frozen business suits floating around stations if they had. Someone should drop corpses all around the station. #BlackTuesday
Please do this.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
325
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Posted - 2014.11.27 03:01:08 -
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less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
64
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Posted - 2014.11.27 03:35:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka!
still uninformed.... read the blog again please.
Just Add Water
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
533
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Posted - 2014.11.27 03:38:58 -
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Oh noes the recent barrage of posts have told me one thing! EVE is DyingGäó! Quick everyone panic like headless chickens EVE is DyingGäó because PLEXprices are falling even though everyone was also saying EVE is DyingGäó when PLEX prices were increasing MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND AHHH MASS PANIC AND HYSTERIA IN JITA!!!
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
325
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Posted - 2014.11.27 03:40:24 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! still uninformed.... read the blog again please.
Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1185
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Posted - 2014.11.27 03:47:08 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! still uninformed.... read the blog again please. Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially.
Market Economics becomes irrelevant once the value of a commodity is speculative and is detached from its actual use as a commodity. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
325
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Posted - 2014.11.27 04:04:46 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! still uninformed.... read the blog again please. Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially. Market Economics becomes irrelevant once the value of a commodity is speculative and is detached from its actual use as a commodity.
Nope...supply and demand still work. CCP announces changes restricting multiboxing...plex plummets....as expected. Markets work. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6047
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Posted - 2014.11.27 05:15:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! still uninformed.... read the blog again please. Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially. Market Economics becomes irrelevant once the value of a commodity is speculative and is detached from its actual use as a commodity. Nope...supply and demand still work. CCP announces changes restricting multiboxing...plex plummets....as expected. Markets work. Well, that and never underestimate how lazy most people are. Yes, you can still use ISBoxer to organize your windows, but many folks (especially those running the really large fleets) simply won't make that effort for long.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
65
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Posted - 2014.11.27 07:39:18 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! still uninformed.... read the blog again please. Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially.
1. are you telling me that this automating program can not be automated to activate the mining lazorz in an intervals of 5-10 (or any random) secs., which in effect make the detection of multibroadcasting difficult?
if not, i demand a cut in the profit the owner of the program will make once he incorporates this feature.
2. your early assumptions only apply to the risk averse, people that enjoys pvp will still explode internet spaceships however expensive they might be.
3. if the demand of ****, sorry trits will rise, therefore makes mining a viable source of income then one of my alts will mine.
Just Add Water
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Signal11th
1470
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Posted - 2014.11.27 09:47:59 -
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No and tbh it's silly it's even suggested, It will be back to 950mil probably within 1 or 2 weeks. Plex has never dropped in price consistently and it's puzzling why all the plex buyers moaning and complaining about the price when it's them that's inflating the price in the first place.
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1411
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Posted - 2014.11.27 09:58:16 -
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I didn't sell my stash. Too much hassle for ~20 additional billions I could get + I believe ISK will continue to drop in value anyway. At least until really interesting expansion will increase amount of players. |
Blastcaps Madullier
Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS.
157
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:20:50 -
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Gogela wrote:Wow! That's a big deal. Good link. I bet freighter ganking and bot mining become more rare.
Freighter ganking is unlikely to become more rare, bot mining dunno, hopefuly. |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1303
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:26:58 -
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DaReaper wrote:I might buy when the free fall stops
Freefall hit 830m. You missed it bub. |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1303
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:28:55 -
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Blastcaps Madullier wrote:Gogela wrote:Wow! That's a big deal. Good link. I bet freighter ganking and bot mining become more rare. Freighter ganking is unlikely to become more rare, bot mining dunno, hopefuly.
Considering botting anything was bannable before, I don't see how this would affect botting at all. Unless CCP can now track more of the mechanisms of the bots, in addition to tracking client broadcasting done by players using programs like Isboxer. |
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2014.11.27 14:01:36 -
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Seems to me isboxxing miners/incursioners/whatever would be hammering it for the next month to make as much isk as possible, while it's still legal.
Only after that would we see the proper effect on plex prices - yesterday's movements were probably entirely speculative.
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Hevymetal
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
398
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Posted - 2014.11.27 14:16:07 -
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LOL, It's simple basic economics, Supply and Demand. The speculation, conspiracies and bulk investors due have an influence on the basic principles of supply and demand.
As supplies rise and demand falls prices will lower. If demand rises and supply diminishes prices will rise. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10726
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Posted - 2014.11.27 14:19:23 -
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Hilariously, I have lost almost as much speculating on plex as I have gained speculating on ice and other mining products.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
327
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Posted - 2014.11.27 15:40:39 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Eureka! still uninformed.... read the blog again please. Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially. 1. are you telling me that this automating program can not be automated to activate the mining lazorz in an intervals of 5-10 (or any random) secs., which in effect make the detection of multibroadcasting difficult? if not, i demand a cut in the profit the owner of the program will make once he incorporates this feature. 2. your early assumptions only apply to the risk averse, people that enjoys pvp will still explode internet spaceships however expensive they might be. 3. if the demand of ****, sorry trits will rise, therefore makes mining a viable source of income then one of my alts will mine.
1. Is bannable and risky. Some may do it...but still the level of mining will surely fall.
2. And therefore what? Ship/Mod prices will still rise, and Plex will still fall.
3. Good for you, human mining is unlikely to ever be as extensive as bot mining. It's just too boring to manually mine on so many individual accounts. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
606
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Posted - 2014.11.27 16:56:14 -
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At the moment its all speculators; some will panic at the first sign of trouble, which will start the current slide, but sooner or later the "confident in the inevitability of PLEX" guys will buy in trying to get them at a good price before the speculation dip corrects, this in itself will correct the dip, and then we will see-saw back up until the change hits, and then its flip a coin time to see what really happens.
Quite frankly, I know I'm too stupid to play the markets (I was lucky I got out only 2 bil down from my attempt to dapple in Technitium around the time of the nerf). |
Beers Veldspar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:28:56 -
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I was starting to panic but as soon as I thought of Veers, I felt reassured. Veers is there now, we are saved.
Veers Belvar, heroic figure in Highsec dedicated to preserving "Truth, justice, and the American way."
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kraken11 jensen
Californian CottonPickers
13
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:36:25 -
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Blastcaps Madullier wrote:Gogela wrote:Wow! That's a big deal. Good link. I bet freighter ganking and bot mining become more rare. Freighter ganking is unlikely to become more rare, bot mining dunno, hopefuly.
its sad that they do this against players who actively play, while you can still see bots mining day in and day out. ( its allmost like them saying, ''og bot instead'' Lol) |
Serene Repose
1662
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:31:38 -
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PLEX is a virgin? I had no idea!
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Hicksimus
Volatile Instability Resonance.
439
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:48:13 -
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Sweet, another middle manager tactic in EvE is getting punched in the ****. Buhbye service managers, make some space for new people who are actually going to play EvE.
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1196
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Posted - 2014.11.28 05:17:44 -
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Arronicus wrote:DaReaper wrote:I might buy when the free fall stops Freefall hit 830m. You missed it bub.
yah but PLEX sale on this weekend so who knows ... could drop more -- might go up |
Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
93
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Posted - 2014.11.28 11:57:07 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:[quote=Veers Belvar][quote=Nat Silverguard][quote=Veers Belvar]less boxing = less mining = less eve stuff = rising demand for that stuff = highser stuff prices = less demand for plex since it gets less stuff now = lower plex prices.
Elementary Economics, my dear Watson. The multibroadcasting ban will significantly reduce the amount of mining. The rest follows trivially.
1. are you telling me that this automating program can not be automated to activate the mining lazorz in an intervals of 5-10 (or any random) secs., which in effect make the detection of multibroadcasting difficult?
if not, i demand a cut in the profit the owner of the program will make once he incorporates this feature.
In answer to this point ( I removed the rest of your post)....it doesn't matter if you do as suggested...at one of fan fests security presentations ( I cant remember which year) a dev. talked about CCP's tools, and they can spot when IS boxer is active on your computer. That they have chosen to take no action until January is their choice. I seem to recall that he said the banning can also be automated...but not 100% sure on that.
It will be interesting to see the drop in player numbers in January. Ice prices ( it seems most ice is mined by boxed fleets) will be all over the place for years until sov. mechanic changes are finished although cap ship fuel usage has dropped massively.
We live in interesting times
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