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Jvpiter
Jovelike
2973
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Posted - 2014.11.26 12:54:48 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Wasn't ganking with ISBoxer already one of this gray areas that got you banned because it gives you an unfair advantage in combat? I can remember I heard something along this lines on coms once from a guy who used ISBoxer to gank once. Could be wrong about that.
I can't imagine why. I've been killed by mini ISBoxed fleets in Low before, and it leads me to believe it's not an uncommon practice for some players in EVE.
It could be because gank targets are more vocal about a loss to PVP?
Call me Joe.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2702
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:05:55 -
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Greg Inglis wrote:Why would you need ISboxer anyway. Its pretty easy to coordinate yourself without it. Unless you're a chimp
I nearly spat my banana out when I read this
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
1034
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:05:59 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Call me Joe.
Ive been curious for a while now, is that an homage to the Sinead O'Connor song?
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
2974
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:12:02 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Jvpiter wrote:Call me Joe. Ive been curious for a while now, is that an homage to the Sinead O'Connor song?
I always smile when someone gets one of my oddball references.
Though I've known for a while now that Ssabat is a smart fellow.
Call me Joe.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5544
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:17:38 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Trolling aside, guys that know, give me at least a rough estimate please - Im curious how significant this isBoxer ban will be for empire ganking?
Why on earth would you assume any player would have this information? That's just silly.
As for empire ganking - it wont have much effect at all. In fact, I might take it back up as a hobby and increase it just because you asked.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
1035
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:17:54 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Jvpiter wrote:Call me Joe. Ive been curious for a while now, is that an homage to the Sinead O'Connor song? I always smile when someone gets one of my oddball references. Though I've known for a while now that Ssabat is a smart fellow.
I smile when I get something right too! lol
edit: Just throwin it out there, but I think Sinead has probably the most beautiful voice Ive ever heard.
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
16
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:18:02 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nobody knows except CCP, it's really that simple. How could one know all or even a rough percentage of the ISBoxers that operate in highsec? If that were possible why would they share it in a thread in GD? Are you really that daft? the boxers might be ... seeing as cheaters generally are daft . lol. (ref to exam cheaters, and a wide artistic brush to extend that to eve playing ... meh ... ok, so it might not always corresdpond lol)
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
16
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:19:15 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Greg Inglis wrote:Why would you need ISboxer anyway. Its pretty easy to coordinate yourself without it. Unless you're a chimp I nearly spat my banana out when I read this
oh, oh! oh! Does that mean you're a ..... omgz! Shock horror, run for the hills!! lol
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:58:12 -
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We could ask loyalanon as the leader of code alliance and known isboxer. How many alts did he use to gain first place on the killboards? I mean other than sophia and wolf soprano and loyalanon, which he already admitted ar his. Also he could explain how or why this would be elite pvp.
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5998
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:30:11 -
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La Rynx wrote:We could ask loyalanon as the leader of code alliance and known isboxer. How many alts did he use to gain first place on the killboards? I mean other than sophia and wolf soprano and loyalanon, which he already admitted ar his. Also he could explain how or why this would be elite pvp.
Don't need alts to be good at PVP. What you just wrote is pretty much just libel, a demonstration of little more than your own spite.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
1040
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:33:07 -
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Dont hate the playa, baby, hate The Game
\m/ O.o \m/
"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:34:40 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I know of three people that use ISBoxer to gank.
Two of them started as a way to apply pressure to CCP to ban ISBoxer.
I've played around with the thought of setting up isboxer for ganks for exaclty that reason. Though in the end I acknowledged I'm simply to lazy to put that much effort in training and setting up the software.
Props to those who did though. I find that if you don't agree with any kind of loophole, your best bet to have it fixed is to abuse the crap out of it and propagate to others to do the same :) |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
266
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:34:58 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Wasn't ganking with ISBoxer already one of this gray areas that got you banned because it gives you an unfair advantage in combat? I can remember I heard something along this lines on coms once from a guy who used ISBoxer to gank once. Could be wrong about that.
There were rumors of bans, and there were confirmed ships being replaced by CCP. CCP Falcon attempted to insult the ISBoxed playerbase claiming that nothing had changed despite evidence of the contrary. If he was indeed correct in that nothing had changed, then CCP had a GM problem where someone was sympathetic to the victims and handed out reimbursements left and right. |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
350
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:37:22 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Who needs ISboxer when you have friends?
Confirming that friends are OP and CCP should immediately move to nerf friends.
Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
5999
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:06:09 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Who needs ISboxer when you have friends? Confirming that friends are OP and CCP should immediately move to nerf friends.
+1. Agree 100%. Never much liked that show anyway.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:29:12 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:
+1. Agree 100%. Never much liked that show anyway.
Completely overrated I agree. Married with Children, now THAT's comedy! |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
6000
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:40:08 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
+1. Agree 100%. Never much liked that show anyway.
Completely overrated I agree. Married with Children, now THAT's comedy!
Only comedy I could ever get into was CSI Miami...
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10714
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:06:19 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It's probably an integer. Actually there is essentially a 0% chance that it is an integer...assuming the percentage is not 0 or 100, and given the large sample size. Veers you realize he only said that because he knew you would dispute it right?
Thank God someone got the joke.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Lady Areola Fappington
2347
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Posted - 2014.11.26 19:24:13 -
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In all honestly, I'd say very few suicide gankers were dependant on ISBox. It's easier to pop into channel and grab a few friends to go gank.
It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
322
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Posted - 2014.11.26 19:45:23 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:In all honestly, I'd say very few suicide gankers were dependant on ISBox. It's easier to pop into channel and grab a few friends to go gank.
That's true for the miner ganks. The nado squadrons that hit blingy battleships are usually ISBoxed...and thankfully that crowd will be going out of business. |
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KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
4
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Posted - 2014.11.26 19:55:06 -
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Shalashaska Adam wrote:An interesting question for CCP now would be, if you are ganked by what appears to be isboxer, or bombed, or whatever.
If you petition, and the culprit was indeed found to be isboxing and is warned/banned, will the victims ship be reimbursed.
Umm you guys do realize that isboxer is not banned? You will still see isboxer fleets in space mining and ganking and bombing the same as before. The new rules from ccp has dropped the average isboxers efficiency probably somewhere between 3-15% depending on how much of your setup relied on broadcasts.
isboxer will be very much alive and working post 12/31/14 |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17989
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Posted - 2014.11.26 19:55:29 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Who needs ISboxer when you have friends? Confirming that friends are OP and CCP should immediately move to nerf friends. +1. Agree 100%. Never much liked that show anyway.
The only thing that needed nerfing was Rachel's apartment's thermostat.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:12:16 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:Shalashaska Adam wrote:An interesting question for CCP now would be, if you are ganked by what appears to be isboxer, or bombed, or whatever.
If you petition, and the culprit was indeed found to be isboxing and is warned/banned, will the victims ship be reimbursed. Umm you guys do realize that isboxer is not banned? You will still see isboxer fleets in space mining and ganking and bombing the same as before. The new rules from ccp has dropped the average isboxers efficiency probably somewhere between 3-15% depending on how much of your setup relied on broadcasts. isboxer will be very much alive and working post 12/31/14 So how does that work if I may ask? |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
263
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:39:13 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:Shalashaska Adam wrote:An interesting question for CCP now would be, if you are ganked by what appears to be isboxer, or bombed, or whatever.
If you petition, and the culprit was indeed found to be isboxing and is warned/banned, will the victims ship be reimbursed. Umm you guys do realize that isboxer is not banned? You will still see isboxer fleets in space mining and ganking and bombing the same as before. The new rules from ccp has dropped the average isboxers efficiency probably somewhere between 3-15% depending on how much of your setup relied on broadcasts. isboxer will be very much alive and working post 12/31/14
Be careful if you head into space lawyer territory. CCP have the final right of reply. If they decide you're trying to game the system they will not hold back the ban hammer. |
Kaely Tanniss
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
72
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:10:27 -
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La Rynx wrote:We could ask loyalanon as the leader of code alliance and known isboxer. How many alts did he use to gain first place on the killboards? I mean other than sophia and wolf soprano and loyalanon, which he already admitted ar his. Also he could explain how or why this would be elite pvp.
You are grossly misinformed. Why would a ganker need ISBoxer...all you need are friends. Contrary to popular belief, ganking is not as easy as Code and others make it seem...especially large fleet ganking. Such things require human timing and interaction..which is more than I can say for the majority of miners, amongst others. It's a matter of skill. I regularly multi-box 3 accts at one..manually..and have NEVER used ISBoxer. Others are capable of running more chars than I without it too. Why is it that anyone who is better, or achieves something more is always a "cheater". Banning ISBoxer is going to hurt carebears and miners FAR more than gankers..mark my words.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3120
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:09:32 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It's probably an integer. Actually there is essentially a 0% chance that it is an integer...assuming the percentage is not 0 or 100, and given the large sample size. Veers you realize he only said that because he knew you would dispute it right?
veers belvar is literally what happens when you try to 3d print a fart
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10718
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:10:56 -
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La Nariz wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It's probably an integer. Actually there is essentially a 0% chance that it is an integer...assuming the percentage is not 0 or 100, and given the large sample size. Veers you realize he only said that because he knew you would dispute it right? veers belvar is literally what happens when you try to 3d print a fart
Is that like when the last generation would Xerox their ass on old copy machines?
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3120
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:12:19 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:La Nariz wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It's probably an integer. Actually there is essentially a 0% chance that it is an integer...assuming the percentage is not 0 or 100, and given the large sample size. Veers you realize he only said that because he knew you would dispute it right? veers belvar is literally what happens when you try to 3d print a fart Is that like when the last generation would Xerox their ass on old copy machines?
I don't know 3d printed asses would be pretty heavy to distribute to the office.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2704
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:12:51 -
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La Nariz wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It's probably an integer. Actually there is essentially a 0% chance that it is an integer...assuming the percentage is not 0 or 100, and given the large sample size. Veers you realize he only said that because he knew you would dispute it right? veers belvar is literally what happens when you try to 3d print a fart
Oh, do grow up you irritating child.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10718
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:17:05 -
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La Nariz wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Is that like when the last generation would Xerox their ass on old copy machines?
I don't know 3d printed asses would be pretty heavy to distribute to the office.
Could be an excellent re-gift for Christmas though. Not even half as bad as one of those talking moose heads or a singing fish.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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