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David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 09:45:55 -
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Dear Warfare and Tactics
I am saddened to tell you that Iron Oxide have dropped from the TLF. It has become apparent that we cannot hope to hold Huola and so we are bowing out from the fight. We may well come back to the TLF at some point but for now we will be going pirate. Friendly entities are invited to arrange blues.
Thanks to everyone we have fought alongside and well done to the Amarr. I hope you will appreciate that without tz presence after LNA left and the Periphery went we were kind of screwed. Added to which however we have faced a competent foe who has brought a few decent fights along the way. No bitterness on our side there.
We're pretty tired right now and will be looking to spend time with our families during this difficult period. I hope you will respect our privacy on this matter.
Much love
David Devant
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Arla Sarain
142
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Posted - 2014.11.26 10:21:57 -
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Mwaahhhhaahhaa.
Wow.
"Bail Bail Bail Bail" turned into https://soundcloud.com/the-theme-song/****-this-****-im-out
A bleh. Censor broke the link. |
Veronica Isagar
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
11
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Posted - 2014.11.26 10:26:38 -
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We enjoyed fighting along side with you, and wish you nothing but the best in your future.
BLACK FOX is RECRUITING
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
142
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:17:53 -
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Should Houla fall, it will feel a bit hollow with the absence of a fight from the main players that have left.
...and there I was thinking you would make it to 1000 days (see Dotlan).
Once again I feel it is necessary to point out that the tier bonuses continue to be unbalanced and excessive. The resulting effect meaning large numbers flip flop militias to the winning side and make it harder for the lower tier faction to keep up with contest for complexes.
Tier 1 s/b 100% Tier 4 s/b no more than 140%
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Suun Ablehart
Parallax Shift The Periphery
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:18:59 -
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It's a shame to see Fe0 leave as well, sincere apologies if us leaving hastened that :(
FW was a great run for the last 5 years, but the meta has been changing slowly all the while and frig-on-frig PvP didn't secure strategic objectives, at least not for RIFT. I fondly recall to noob recruits a time when BS brawls on gates were "a thing" in FW low-sec. A time when hotdropping wasn't prevalent and we could actually use our own capitals. Needless to say, hotdropping, especially in this warzone, among other things, really reduced things to just frig-on-frig.
Looking to bring back some of the old fun :)
PARALLAX SHIFT / Recruiting Pilots / Minmatar Faction War & Piracy
THE PERIPHERY / Recruiting Corporations for growing FW alliance
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Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:27:41 -
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I think I'll take some time out to write the erotic novel I always felt I had in me. |
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis
26
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:39:39 -
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sad to see you leave FW
theres always a time for a comeback...well
and if not, can i have your stuff??? |
Shiva Makoto
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:25:22 -
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On behalf of Imperial Outlaws. I hereby accept the surrender of Iron Oxide.
Please contact Shalee Lianne to arrange reparation payments for the damage you've done in your struggle for "freedom", preferably paid in slaves.
I want to take the moment to ask Ice Fire Warriors, The Periphery and the Minmatar Militia to consider an official surrender post as well, just so we can get the paperwork done.
Edit: AMARR VICTOR! |
Riven Maskar
Parallax Shift The Periphery
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:41:42 -
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Good Hunting to you, FeO.
I'm sure with such an awesome collection of pilots and competence, you'll raise hell where ever you decide to go. |
Suun Ablehart
Parallax Shift The Periphery
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:47:27 -
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Nobody surrendered. Including Fe0.
The meta is simply changing, and flying around in frigates is not only extremely boredom-inducing, but doesn't accomplish anything.
Enjoy your T4 Amarrs, we're already farming up that LP \o/
Parallax SHIFT
Recruiting Pilots / Low-sec Pirate Corp
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
427
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:25:57 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Should Houla fall, it will feel a bit hollow with the absence of a fight from the main players that have left.
...and there I was thinking you would make it to 1000 days (see Dotlan).
Once again I feel it is necessary to point out that the tier bonuses continue to be unbalanced and excessive. The resulting effect meaning large numbers flip flop militias to the winning side and make it harder for the lower tier faction to keep up with contest for complexes.
Tier 1 s/b 100% Tier 4 s/b no more than 140% Agreed. It is good that members of militias with the current upperhand make posts like this. I feel the same way sitting in the presently on top Galmil. The FW tier system needs some more tweaking.
That and more attention has to be paid to faction ship balancing again. I'm sure the desire to supply the NApoc demand is helping the Amarr militia attract farmers with the in-game tier 4 benefit as it is.
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2980
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:34:57 -
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i don't get it why people bail from fun due to having such a great fear of losing. We went for huola last time as we where at tier 1 with very bad odds and 0 preparations. We haven't even started now and the opponents are bailing.
very disappointed.
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
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James Clough
Heart of Pyerite Imperial Outlaws.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:34:59 -
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So are you staying in the min/amarr warzone?
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Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:06:11 -
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Bienator II wrote:i don't get it why people bail from fun due to having such a great fear of losing. We went for huola last time as we where at tier 1 with very bad odds and 0 preparations. We haven't even started now and the opponents are bailing.
very disappointed.
That's a bit disingenuous on all counts to be fair and I can only speak personally but orbiting a button 23/7 isn't fun, nor are grindfests in T1 frigs that rinse/repeat.
I'll shortly be publishing a novel who's main protagonist is a London-based "consulting detective" whose powers of logical reasoning would deduce from your statement that; you're disappointed that you've been deprived of your type of fun. Unfortunately my sub is selfish and is only concerned with mine, sorry about that. |
David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:12:27 -
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Yeh, we'll be staying around.
@Bienator - Sorry! We had big bout of soul searching as Kourmonen crumbled. But it was apparent to us that even if we could muster a decent response in our peak hours we were leaving about 20 hours of uncontested plexing. As it is we can't get more than 20 active pilots in a fleet on a week night so even that point is moot. It is literally only our alliance who are left to defend the system with a couple of helping hands whereas the Amarr have a reasonable coalition and Death by Design on standby. We'll still try and kill you wherever possible if that makes you feel any better? |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2980
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:19:52 -
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David Devant wrote: We'll still try and kill you wherever possible if that makes you feel any better? a little bit
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
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RTSAvalanche
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:28:42 -
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The last truely epic fleet fight we had was in sisede where it escalted into alot of capitals... anyone else remember that??
Anyways since then it's been a bunch of fire crackrs that fizzled out... most notable was ESZUR, but they left fw and walked away with out a fight..
everyone in FW... im calling you ALL pussies (Amarr is included equally as amarr in this)
man the f**k up, fly with out ecm, fly with out logistics!
remember the old BC roams... no tackle, no ecm, no logi -- just goo simple cheap fun!
too bad people care so much about their KB stats |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1190
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:06:38 -
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RTSAvalanche wrote:The last truely epic fleet fight we had was in sisede where it escalted into alot of capitals... anyone else remember that??
Nearly 3 years ago lol. Part 1 Part 2
Its a bit of a shame, cant say im up to date with what the amarr are fielding but TZ discrepancies are probably the hardest thing to fight against.
o7 Huola guys, o/ Huola pies |
Xavi Bastanold
Parallax Shift The Periphery
9
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:29:13 -
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Last fight I had in FW was against tiktok and a couple others in their linked/boosted thingies. Savesti was there as well in her vexor. Lost 2 (or 3?) ships overall, but it was fun and Savesti was a generous soul. All the best to FeO. Solar winds at your back, mates!
Good hunting,
Xavi
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Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:44:26 -
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RTSAvalanche wrote:remember the old BC roams... no tackle, no ecm, no logi -- just goo simple cheap fun!
They're slow old dogs now, which to be fair lends itself to a one way roam with a pod express home.
Xmas is coming up, joint BC op?
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Moglarr
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:01:36 -
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David Devant wrote:Yeh, we'll be staying around.
@Bienator - Sorry! We had big bout of soul searching as Kourmonen crumbled. But it was apparent to us that even if we could muster a decent response in our peak hours we were leaving about 20 hours of uncontested plexing. As it is we can't get more than 20 active pilots in a fleet on a week night so even that point is moot. It is literally only our alliance who are left to defend the system with a couple of helping hands whereas the Amarr have a reasonable coalition and Death by Design on standby. We'll still try and kill you wherever possible if that makes you feel any better?
David,
Sad to see your team has decided to depart from FW. Glad that our Amarrian allies are beating up the Minmatar.
Templis went through the same thing Iron Oxide. did, even as far back as when Innia fell for good leading all the way up to the Gallente sweep of the WZ. Being on such a serious end of a beating is rough, demoralizing, and makes you wonder why you're even paying to play this game. I would encourage you to stay with a militia, and redeploy to a new region. This has worked for Templis, it was slow, hard work but combined with aggressive recruitment and unbelievable commitment from our vets we've made gains. We retreated from Innia and Black Rise to open up a new front, and it was probably the best move we've made. Although some of our regular enemies don't see us much any more, we have new ones we hate just as much <3.
If you do want to be a part of a militia still, and you want to occasionally use something besides frigates (apparently, some people do - weird) then I'd suggest you come out to Hasmijaala. Accept the LP from the State, wage war on the Gallente and fight beside Templis. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
692
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:08:56 -
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Moglarr wrote:If you do want to be a part of a militia still, and you want to occasionally use something besides frigates (apparently, some people do - weird) then I'd suggest you come out to Hasmijaala. Accept the LP from the State, wage war on the Gallente and fight beside Templis. The other option, of course, is to join the Glorious Gallente - we who stood by you in your hour of need. Besides, we're the ones fielding BS fleets to try and take on Snuffbox and other high end lowsec groups. That's a much better match if you're looking to do something bigger and better than T1 frigate grindfests.
You've already got the standings, you already know we've got your back - and our LP beats the hell out of State Protectorate chits!
We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
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Anslo
Scope Works
22630
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:27:53 -
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Or just contact me ffs. Christ lol.
Also Lory if you're watching, we still on for our dinner date? <3
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
39
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:09:08 -
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I certainly have watched all the old footage from years back about the Gate Battleship Fights and all that cool stuff....... what happened that pushed the meta down into Frigates? |
Iudicium Vastus
Incognito Holdings and Savings
311
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:45:32 -
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Soren Tyrhanos wrote:I certainly have watched all the old footage from years back about the Gate Battleship Fights and all that cool stuff....... what happened that pushed the meta down into Frigates?
I believe not a lack of wanting to. But rather some bored Super pilots from various 'entities' who drop their Aeons and such onto anything larger than four T1 cruisers.
So wasn't anything between the Militias or their desires, but rather third parties that lowered the meta.
[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just..
-Fit more points
-Fit faction points
-Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
457
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Posted - 2014.11.27 01:44:03 -
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RTSAvalanche wrote:The last truely epic fleet fight we had was in sisede where it escalted into alot of capitals... anyone else remember that??
Anyways since then it's been a bunch of fire crackrs that fizzled out... most notable was ESZUR, but they left fw and walked away with out a fight..
everyone in FW... im calling you ALL pussies (Amarr is included equally as amarr in this)
man the f**k up, fly with out ecm, fly with out logistics!
remember the old BC roams... no tackle, no ecm, no logi -- just goo simple cheap fun!
too bad people care so much about their KB stats
probably the only epic fleet fight you had with IO was in sis and eszur.
not the rest of us.
sad to see you guys go, maybe now we can do a fleet together, now that your not the arch enemy.
Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
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Jhaelee de'Auvrie
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
11
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Posted - 2014.11.27 01:56:58 -
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As many have voiced here already, it is sad to see things continue to fall apart like this. Good fights were had, especially before LP payouts for everything. You guys leaving means things are truly grinding to a halt.
Thanks for the years of good fights and solid opposition.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
64
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Posted - 2014.11.27 04:46:26 -
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Suun Ablehart wrote:It's a shame to see Fe0 leave as well, sincere apologies if us leaving hastened that :(
FW was a great run for the last 5 years, but the meta has been changing slowly all the while and frig-on-frig PvP didn't secure strategic objectives, at least not for RIFT. I fondly recall to noob recruits a time when BS brawls on gates were "a thing" in FW low-sec. A time when hotdropping wasn't prevalent and we could actually use our own capitals. Needless to say, hotdropping, especially in this warzone, among other things, really reduced things to just frig-on-frig.
Looking to bring back some of the old fun :)
1st and foremost, im a newbie ok? so my views maybe limited.
imho, the effects of Phoebe is pretty much felt in the FW/lowsec space alot. i feel, most of lowsec/FW corps (or atleast my corp) are not too much concerned of a nullsec hot-drop, although it's still pretty much a possibility. local pirates are now exerting much more effort to dominate the region and are fielding more firepower than usual. heck because of these developments, my corp. are kicking up a notch and have a go to train above cruisers to defend our space.
so yeah, BS brawls might be more common in the future, in fact GalMil had already 2 major fights with Snuff with more than just cruisers in the field.
Just Add Water
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Pinky Feldman
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
745
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Posted - 2014.11.27 04:55:12 -
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Suun Ablehart wrote:Nobody surrendered. Including Fe0.
The meta is simply changing, and flying around in frigates is not only extremely boredom-inducing, but doesn't accomplish anything.
Enjoy your T4 Amarrs, we're already farming up that LP \o/
David Devant wrote:Yeh, we'll be staying around.
@Bienator - Sorry! We had big bout of soul searching as Kourmonen crumbled. But it was apparent to us that even if we could muster a decent response in our peak hours we were leaving about 20 hours of uncontested plexing. As it is we can't get more than 20 active pilots in a fleet on a week night so even that point is moot. It is literally only our alliance who are left to defend the system with a couple of helping hands whereas the Amarr have a reasonable coalition and Death by Design on standby. We'll still try and kill you wherever possible if that makes you feel any better?
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, all I can say is that i'm pleased and saddened that it sounds like the Minmatar have finally realized what the rest of us struggled with since Inferno. I'm pleased because it sounds like you guys realize that game mechanics are game mechanics and it wasn't simply a case of Minmatar having superior dedication to the cause.The FW that you've just recently accepted is the one that the Amarr have had to deal with since the beginning. Trust me, your frustrations are things that we struggled against and had to build everything up from scratch.
That being said i'm sad that you guys have fully decided to accept the reality of FW. Long ago when I was an active FW advocate, I was always clear that it was a sad day when ANYONE left FW, enemy or ally. It frustrated me to no end when people would smacktalk and act like the other side was leaving because their militia was too awesome. That hasn't changed and it still makes me sad seeing groups, especially old guard leave FW as it will always hold a special place in my heart. Despite the level of frustration and futility we were all still able to motivate militia friends into fun campaigns and BOTH sides enjoyed great clashes, yet sometimes things just get stale and you can only force narrative for so long. Those were some of my fondest moments in EVE and I am grateful that we had a strong enemy to fight against. Best of luck to whatever you guys decide to do.
The moar you cry the less you pee
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SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
72
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Posted - 2014.11.27 05:45:01 -
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\o/ JOIN GALLENTE \o/
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