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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1453
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:00:34 -
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Two days ago Brigadier General Odo Korachi has reported unusual Sansha activity in Oasa region, and the next day capsuleer explorer Caroline Grace ventured there to investigate Nation's activity.
Yesterday about 1830 time explorer Caroline Grace has reported an unusual celestial object into Intergalactic Summit NeoCom conference, and at 1957 UTC she has reported it in this forum here
This celestial object has a distinguishable feature: its flares mostly directed in vertical plane, while lens flares for suns and other bright objects are dominantly in horizontal plane.
Caroline Grace has made a camera shot, where the object's flares don't turn together with camera, like lens flares of other object (proof goes here).
This object was also found in New Eden system (as reported by Jaret Victorian).
Many other capsuleers were observing this object from numerous systems in our cluster.
Analyzing this, we can make following conclusions: 1) The flares of the object aren't lens effect, but properties of the object, which make it look like either an active black hole consuming matter with relativistic jets from poles (vertical flares) and accretion disk (horizontal flares), or supernova 2) The supernova hypothesis is barely confirmable, as the object have been seen through very distant systems (our cluster is about 100 light years in size), thus if it was a supernova, it would be observed from different systems at different stages, but pictures from all the system are identical, which means that the celestial object Caroline's star maintains this form for at least 100 years. Black holes can consume matter for even longer periods of time. 3) The object is in fact quite old (about 100 years - if it is visible from all systems in our cluster), and is probably the same one, as has been referenced by Lieutenant Samira Kernher here |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
210
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:15:57 -
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Isogen-5 It was isogen-5 last time.
*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours! |
Joanne Breau
Sleeper Slumber Party Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:24:35 -
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Additionally, comparisons between pictures from yesterday and pictures from today show that the phenomenon has grown brighter and bigger. There are theories going about that this is a FTL event, as it wasn't noticeable anywhere in New Eden last week and is now visible across the whole cluster. |
Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
112
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:30:40 -
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There is another possibility for how this object became visible across all of New Eden. It is emitting some form of FTL radiation. As this radiation travels, some of it decays into visible light that is emitted in the same direction of travel as the original radiation. The entire cluster became flooded with this radiation at about the same time, so we all see it. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1456
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:30:57 -
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FTL event won't let light to spread faster than it spreads. Information can go FTL. Somehow that signal to Isogen-5, that it should go boom, traveled FTL. We through gates and wormholes travel FTL, warp drives work on FTL speeds.
But light is light, light can't spread faster than light, because it is damn light, and it has its damn speed, about 3x10^8 meters per second. |
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
4
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:35:57 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Isogen-5 It was isogen-5 last time.
*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours!
I too think that it is isogen-5 |
Joanne Breau
Sleeper Slumber Party Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:37:39 -
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It's not uncommon to see strange phenomena in New Eden, if the event itself could "push" light beyond its own maximum speed, it would become visible across the cluster. |
Anslo
Scope Works The Blacklist.
22635
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:44:33 -
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Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
112
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:52:58 -
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I'm sure we do not know of every phenomenon that can travel faster than light. My theory still works: FTL radiation is being emitted by... whatever..., travels throughout the cluster. Along the way some decays into light. When it does so in your solar system, you can see the light, right away. The travel distance is no longer an issue as the vast majority of the distance is traversed at FTL speeds. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1456
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:04:44 -
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Physics, Ms. Ma'chello.
If there would be FTL radiation, decaying into light, first, amount of this radiation should be rather colossal, and second, it should decay constanly on its way to create image of the Caroline's star in multiple points. Imagine you have two FTL particles, one decays at point A, second decays at point B. We register first light from point A, while light from FTL particle decayed at point B should travel A-B distance, thus it will get to observer later than particle A. Thus we will have two images of the object at the same time. If there are more particles, that decay at different times, we will get multiple snapshots of the object, and thus on camera and on the sky the object would appear as having a blurred 'tail', as it moves (or as we move together with system in the cluster). It then would appear more like a comet. |
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1398
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:31:14 -
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Very strange, what we are witnessing is by all the known laws of physics clearly impossibe.
However it is happening.
Any theory or hypothesis when encountering an occurence that contradicts it, requires us to either revise or disregard the hypothesis.
So the lesson of the last two days, is that we have made some significant errors in our scientific understanding.
Hopefully we can learn from them and learn the truth before something unfortunate happens we lack the knowledge to counter.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
878
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:58:45 -
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Reposting in this thread regarding the waves made by--and the equivalent lack of explanation of--the Bright Star's last appearance 6 years ago, as I believe it's important to keep in mind.
The last star heralded the most momentous events of the last decade, which included the holy resurrection of Her Imperial Majesty, armed with a godly weapon, along with the Malkalen attack, the assault on CONCORD, the start of the Empyrean War, and so on. The Seyllin Incident happened exactly one year later. Notably, the Bright Star disappeared in early March of YC110, and the Seyllin Incident happened on March 10th of YC111.
We can try to understand how this star can be, but we shouldn't get lost studying the lighthouse and so miss the ship steaming towards shore. God has given us this star is a sign of things to come. Mr. Tetua understands this, at least. |
Mecanos
The Idiot Kings Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:59:59 -
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My Gratitude to Caroline Grace as she passed through the systems i live the last 6 years and brought to my attention with extraordinay passion the details of her research about the Bright Star.
I was just staring at this Bright phenomenon while traveling through Vale of the silent region, but now i think i got overwhelmed by it.
My exploration ship is now called Caroline Star and here are some images i captured from Vale of the silent region at certain systems which they are full of Jovian Aura.
http://imgur.com/KJA7og3
http://imgur.com/dem5tJw
excuse my poor input, but im in space more than 15hours at this moment, this was more of a thank you capsuleers out there, that keep the spirit of adventure alive and the pure curiosity that leads to giant leaps... in space. |
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
4
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:08:16 -
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Quote:IGÇÖm frankly baffled. The information weGÇÖve been able to gather from this anomaly is in some respects suggestive of a core collapse supernova but there is simply no way in which the light would be visible in every system of the cluster. It is there. It is manifesting faster than light. It should not be possible. Wolls Obraio, Professor of Astrophysics at Caille University
Really Interesting..
Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready.
This. and just do not underestime the unknown.
I as a scientist also believe in the prohecies. I gathered a lot of finding related to the star. Will publish them soon. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works The Blacklist.
87
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:10:18 -
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Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready.
Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger? |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4250
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:30:45 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready. Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger?
The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...
It is fairly safe to say that we're probably looking more at something like the former rather than the latter but, personally, I'm making sure that my personnel are moved to self-sufficient systems, in case the jumpgate system collapses. If it does, I'm activating my softclone in Highsec.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works The Blacklist.
87
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:37:23 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready. Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger? The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from... It is fairly safe to say that we're probably looking more at something like the former rather than the latter but, personally, I'm making sure that my personnel are moved to self-sufficient systems, in case the jumpgate system collapses. If it does, I'm activating my softclone in Highsec.
So, ya..... I think Its a safe bet then....... Looks like its time to pick up a few more ships.....
Thanks for clarifying that for me Pieter. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1457
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:46:57 -
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Oh, sweet Maker.
Now even scientists have no freaking idea, what is going on, what would you expect from just a soldier like me...
THANKS, CAROLINE GRACE, FOR BREAKING OUR PHYSICS... I'll go home drinking my tea.
Ah, one more thing. During one particular physics lesson, our teacher was showing us, why the casuality principle exists, and that the quants of space can form continuous fabric of space-time only with this principle. If it becomes broken, space turns into a sponge and collapses.
We have built stargates. We made warp drives, and now it's time for the Universe itself to return at us, with fabric of spacetime collapsing on our eyes. First, wormholes appearing everywhere. Now that star, appearing in every solar system.
Does anyone care to make calculations until we all collapse into a singularity, eh? |
Anslo
Scope Works The Blacklist.
22638
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:48:44 -
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Just have everyone equipped Dess. And I mean everyone.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works The Blacklist.
89
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:53:31 -
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Will do, believe me that's not a problem... |
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Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
185
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:59:25 -
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I started a repository of sightings on an unmonitored feed yesterday. Unsure why I did not also save the information here.
I will continue to update the feed as more information is available - currently the Bright Star is believed to be physically located in VYX2-I , N-K4Q0, or REZ-YZ in the BS8-ZQ constellation (credit to Joethemachine). W477-P in UUA-4 is also possible, and numerous reports have supported that system as the location.
I will update the repository as I can.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1119
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:19:11 -
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To give people a bit of an update & a possible link to an older event involving a bright Star as well, I ran this publication: Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
If the link would be true between the bright Star event & wormholes, we might see some very interesting things in the future. However if new wormholes don't appear in the future, then the Bright star phenomenons just happened to be a coincidence and I was wrong in my hypothesis.
Celebrating a decade: Ushra'Khan
YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 destroyers unveiled! (Updated)
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1458
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:35:38 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote: The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...
Caldari Prime? |
Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
5722
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:30:54 -
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Taraki Orani wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:Isogen-5 It was isogen-5 last time.
*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours! I too think that it is isogen-5 While it's true we posess some of the brightest stars (and biggest anomolies) in the galaxy none of us are smart enough to pull off a stunt like this.
Though I'm sure Lotor appreciates the free publicity.
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Aiko Ueshiba
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:31:56 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote: The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...
Caldari Prime?
What can I add to this? Not much, but what I've observed. This morning, I went out on patrol and there was a new star in my sky. This star was only visible elsewhere yesterday and nowhere last year. So while I don't believe physics is broken, I think our understanding of it is.
I know that even a new pilot like me is finding it ridiculously easy to find wormholes in The Forge.
I know this phenomena is visible here in Saisio, visible in Jita, visible from New Caldari.
Some of you say this could pose a threat? I don't think it is time to panic yet, but a little prudence and preparation couldn't hurt.
That's all I can add.
"... I assume that any work which engages with the future must necessarily consist of fragments of the past; any vision we have of the future is necessarily built of our experience to the moment in which we conceive of the vision." W. Gibson.
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
34
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:34:20 -
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Well, Doctor Cassira said it right. This thing makes no sence from the point of science. Anything can happen.
And it's almost as bright as the sun already. I think we all can agree that we should prepare for unforeseen consequences. |
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
147
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:46:32 -
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A question:
Is not the speed of light defined as distance traveled over time through a medium?
Isn't that how we are able to get around the speed of light in our ships on a routine basis? We generate a warp field ( and therefor a unique medium ) that allows megatons of solid matter to travel at speeds that exceed the apparent speed limit outside of the field?
Is it so strange to imagine a stellar event so energetic that it projects a similar field, one allowing for an apparent acceleration of near-massless photons to super-relativistic speeds?
This is, of course, the second time this has happened. We are obviously not looking at a unique phenomenon.
The Bright Star event of Y110 manifested in exactly the same way: as an ultra-energetic celestial visible simultaneously from all parts of the New Eden cluster. BSE110 disregarded the apparent laws of physics and the speed of light then, just as BSE116 is doing now. Whatever laws of physics we believe were and are being broken with BSE110 and now BSE116, the simple fact remains that a basic property of our universe is being demonstrated to us again, regardless of whether or not we understand it.
And of course, there is the theoretical ( because correlation does not equal causation ) side-effect of BSE110: the destabilization of local space allowing for the spontaneous formation of wormholes to other regions of space. Whether or not we will experience similar ( or possibly accelerated ) destabilization of local space is, in my opinion, the greater question at hand.
Let us not get so bound up in the argument over the 'how and why it happened' that we ignore the 'what do we do next if it happens the same way again?'
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Solanus Omaristos
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
20
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:53:00 -
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I have been wondering what the new star in the Catch region is. And I can further confirm that the star is getting brighter.#
This is an image of the anomaly taken 24 hours ago. As you can see here, Caroline's star is barely noticable.
This is an image of the anomaly taken 2 hours ago. It has grown in brightness and is just about visible.
For those struggling to make the star out, look at the bottom left of the Scalding Pass nebula.
I am very interested as to what this star could be. Sleeper activity? A Jovian catastrophe that we are seeing the effects of only now? Something the Sansha awoke, thereby explaining their peculiar activity in Oasa? The Architects?
Or maybe even the return of another ancient civilisation. Only God knows what will happen should the Takmahl return, or we see a resurgence of Yan Jung. |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
837
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:00:38 -
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Do we know anything about the UUA-F4 region?
Last time something like this appeared it was outside charted space, but this is inside a region that is listed as having stargates but is unconnected to the cluster at large, much like Jove space, but unlike Jove space, I can't remember ever hearing any references to any possible inhabitants |
EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:20:24 -
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I once heard a rumor that UUA-F4 is a playground for the gods. Personally I think the guy who told me that poured too much booze in his pod goo but maybe it's relavant.
I too would be interested in any available data on UUA-F4. |
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