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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
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Posted - 2011.11.28 14:39:00 -
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Because, you know, Incursion runners simply aren't making enough ISK, so let's make them the only ones who qualify to buy customs office BPO's too, because poor them they need passive income as well QQ |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.11.28 14:41:00 -
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Fail troll is fail. Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
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Posted - 2011.11.28 14:44:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Fail troll is fail.
No you're right you can get them at FW LP stores too. Hands up who does FW? |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.28 15:15:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Fail troll is fail. No you're right you can get them at FW LP stores too. Hands up who does FW?
Hey give Incursion runners a break. They work very hard for their Isk :)
Something Awful. A beacon for tearful, lonely neckbeards. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2011.11.28 15:20:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Ptraci wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Fail troll is fail. No you're right you can get them at FW LP stores too. Hands up who does FW? Hey give Incursion runners a break. They work very hard for their Isk :)
Actually
Fleet of ten people
getting intto good fleet : half an hour having 100mil per hour : hour or two moving to another incursion : hour
200mil per 4 hours equal 50 mil per hour... Not that great .. if you catch my drift
Same as you do some plex 10/10 loot worth 1.6 bil in one hour..
yet your true isk/hr income is somewhere at 100mil* considering number of accounts needed, time to moving the stuff and time to sell the stuff.
Anyway increase demand for incursions actually drops their income radically.. since more people competing for one site means lower isk/hr ratio..
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Dirty Weegie
The Dirty Rejects Scelus Sceleris.
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Posted - 2011.11.28 15:29:00 -
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Actually
Fleet of ten people
getting intto good fleet : half an hour having 100mil per hour : hour or two moving to another incursion : hour
200mil per 4 hours equal 50 mil per hour... Not that great .. if you catch my drift
Same as you do some plex 10/10 loot worth 1.6 bil in one hour..
yet your true isk/hr income is somewhere at 100mil* considering number of accounts needed, time to moving the stuff and time to sell the stuff.
Anyway increase demand for incursions actually drops their income radically.. since more people competing for one site means lower isk/hr ratio..
Rubbish
So your saying you have to move incursion every 4 hours?
The incursion is up for roughly 6 days
Getting into fleet : half an hour Earn 100mil per hour : Five or six hours Repeat for 6 days Moving to next incursion ; 1 hour repeat.
500 mil for 6 hours its not unusual... if you know the right FC's
EDIT: i seem to have arsed up the quote... time to lay off the drink i think If you can't win fair... Cheat |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.28 15:34:00 -
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@ Dirtie Weggie
If some other group doesnt come along and does not close the incursion ..
Dont forget that part
You dont like how much they make..
Make a fleet and start closing it.
Which ultimately means getting more people into it means less income .. |
Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
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Posted - 2011.11.28 16:27:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:@ Dirtie Weggie If some other group doesnt come along and does not close the incursion .. Dont forget that part You dont like how much they make.. Make a fleet and start closing it. Which ultimately means getting more people into it means less income ..
Pretty much this. Incursions are one of few highsec activities where your income can be cut off ENTIRELY by outside competition.
In a site, if there are two fleets contesting, the better fleet gets paid while the worse fleet gets nothing --> this means that when more people start running incursions, everyone, on average, makes slightly lower isk/hr, as there will be more fleets and therefore more contests. You can reduce the income of incursions simply by running them yourself. IIRC, only 5% of the highsec population runs incursions... Is it the fault of the incursion runners that there is barely any competition? No, not really.
Then, there's the possibility of "griefing" --> If you're cap transferring/repping someone who has aggro, you can now be killed by everyone who has aggro on that person. Sure, you get a warning, but many people blindly ignore them. Entire fleets have collapsed to this.
Then, there's the possibility that someone like Raver comes along with a fleet to hit the MOM sites and despawn the incursions, nerfing everyone else's isk/hr into zero until a new one spawns.
There seems to be an awful lot of people bitching and whining about something which can be countered so easily. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.11.28 16:32:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Because, you know, Incursion runners simply aren't making enough ISK, so let's make them the only ones who qualify to buy customs office BPO's too, because poor them they need passive income as well QQ
Yea, and FW too... but still normal mission runners cant get them from there LP pool |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
83
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Posted - 2011.11.28 16:37:00 -
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An other " Nerf highsec incursion" thread |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.11.28 16:52:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:... " Nerf highsec incursion" ...
This |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.28 17:25:00 -
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Geez, you guys never give up. Do you? quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Dai DIEDIEDIE
Arena Space Fight Corp
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Posted - 2011.11.28 17:41:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:No you're right you can get them at FW LP stores too. Hands up who does FW? Me, and I run Incursions too.
FW is available to everybody who has the standings. If people want these BPOs then it's easy to get the LP running missions for FW agents. |
Gavjack Bunk
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.11.28 17:43:00 -
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There is no limit to the amount of ISK that I would be prepared to throw at Incursion Runners. And no limit to the amount of protection from griefers I would grant them.
Can I have a job at CCP wiping babby bottoms now? |
Blind Navigator
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.28 18:27:00 -
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Lets see
Incursion Pimp Mobile: 1-3b (5b ones are not unheard of)...............100k ehp
10x Tornado arty t2 fit: 750m.....................................................................11k alpha x10 = 110k
13 seconds for another volley before concord shows up.
11k alpha x 10 for another explosion.
Stop being envious that nearby farmer has a fat milk cow. Shoot the farmer, milk the cow, kill it and get beef We are playing eve here.
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